Comic 1474 - Fear

13th Mar 2017, 12:00 AM
Fear
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Mark_L_A 13th Mar 2017, 12:02 AM edit delete reply

OMG, PTSD in a Cassian.
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 3:29 AM edit delete reply

and its about to get worse..
All the Pickles 13th Mar 2017, 8:43 AM edit delete reply

Oh boy, I can only imagine how that can happen...
Timotheus 13th Mar 2017, 6:04 PM edit delete reply

She'll be made to Carmel Danse?
Speedy Marsh 9th Apr 2017, 2:07 PM edit delete reply
Even worse... Noctis will be Caramelldansen, while teabagging Columbina.
Visvires 13th Mar 2017, 6:05 PM edit delete reply
Worse? There's only one more named person we don't know to have made it, and she's contorted into a ball. Unless we're about to get a new introduction...

Is the crowd going to be hit?

Also, where is the sniper support? I doubt he can cyberpath a bullet.
CptKerion 13th Mar 2017, 11:40 PM edit delete reply
My money? Prince Valerius saw who she was going for. That power sword is about to be put into service by him to slay this cyberpath.
Sheela 14th Mar 2017, 7:52 PM edit delete reply

Well, we only know of Nox and Noctis as survivors, so I guess Noctis is about to kill off Mariposa ?

Possibly by having Mariposa save their lord from Noctis with her life.
junoro 13th Mar 2017, 12:02 AM edit delete reply

Wow, he actually had time to freeze her... that's a fast thinking (horrible, vile) technopath! D:
Gilrandir 13th Mar 2017, 1:43 AM edit delete reply
He was able to completely incapacitate four of them in a single surprise round with individualized attacks. Just stopping one of them subsequently would seem to be an unexceptional exercise of his abilities. Possibly even trivial.

As sincere as Noctis is likely being, this is very much giving me a vibe of 'first person account', and we all know how reliable eyewitness testimony tends to be. ^_^ Unfortunately, we are unlikely to get an omniscient narrator's account of actual events. I wonder if Nox and Mariposa -- who also were touched by his "unclean mind" -- also singled out the same attack source as unerringly? Obviously they can't do anything about it at the moment, but it would be relevant when writing up the incident report after the fact.

What really isn't clear is why he isn't doing the origami act with Noctis as well. And then leaving.
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 3:29 AM edit delete reply

heh can we say panic?
Gilrandir 13th Mar 2017, 7:43 AM edit delete reply
It would seem unlikely that he could bring her darker fears to life (since, as someone commented above, "it's about to get worse") as a panic reaction. Panic would be, I should think, "I'm at risk! Crush it and flee!" I mean, sure, freeze it first, for defense. However, with four attacks per round ... freeze, crush, crush, flee should work. But, we will see as the tale continues to unfold...
megados 13th Mar 2017, 12:20 AM edit delete reply

Valerius has lost someone very dear to him! Columbina! :( He cared for her!

You can see the fear, and revulsion in Noctis' eyes. There is no doubt as to why she considers cyberpaths to be monsters. :( To have one's very being taken in this way . . .

I hope she gets him eventually.
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 3:29 AM edit delete reply

Columbina was a dear friend to him
megados 13th Mar 2017, 10:02 AM edit delete reply

You can feel his pain at her loss :(

All of the emotions on this page are very clear. Well done!
Sheela 14th Mar 2017, 7:53 PM edit delete reply

He also lost his Lord General.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 8:18 PM edit delete reply
(I get to recycle a comment from the previous page! This is how we can prolong the lives of our Internet datafills.)

Nah! He never liked that General anyway. ^_^
All the Pickles 13th Mar 2017, 1:00 AM edit delete reply

Hmm, I think my soul fell out. Can someone help me find it?
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 3:22 AM edit delete reply

its in the bathroom where you left it.
kraznor 13th Mar 2017, 5:28 AM edit delete reply
so thats what Sheela is eating in there
Sheela 14th Mar 2017, 7:54 PM edit delete reply

*looks innocent*
The Old Scribe 13th Mar 2017, 1:21 AM edit delete reply

I'm wondering who the cyberpath is working for? This assassination attempt has been carefully planned and I don't think Junior there just woke up one morning with that power. He had to have first been discovered, then carefully nurtured, cultivated and thoroughly indoctrinated to pull off an attack like this. More court intrigue, mayhap?
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 4:09 AM edit delete reply

yep lots of questions!
megados 13th Mar 2017, 9:40 AM edit delete reply

@TheOldScribe, I am not convinced that this is just an assassination attempt. One reason I say that is because, as someone had previously mentioned, it could have been done much more swiftly if the cyberpath had just had Noctis turn and slice. This seems to be something else.
CptKerion 14th Mar 2017, 2:03 AM edit delete reply
It's a terror attack.
The methodology being followed, do it in the open, with lots of witnesses. Do it in a horrible fashion instead of just efficiently.

Assassination is done generally swiftly, quietly, and as the opportunity presents itself.
Gilrandir 13th Mar 2017, 1:45 AM edit delete reply
Very nice dynamics on this page, by the way, @Centcomm. A real sense of motion is imparted.
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 2:55 AM edit delete reply

Thank you very much!
Gilrandir 13th Mar 2017, 4:42 PM edit delete reply
@Tokyo Rose may be in love with the effect of hair drifting in zero-g, but I admit that sort of thing may be too subtle for me. On the other hand, to give you a clue about my calibrated levels of perception, when I looked back at it I think one of the things that really sold it for me, which it seems like it would have been really easy to overlook, is the way Noctis' hair in panel five swings forward as her body is brought up short by the paralysis taking hold. Was that an easy and trivial detail for you, or something more challenging? I can see that it isn't an effect that would be needed very often. (Unless your webcomic happens to located in an an amusement park, perhaps. ^_^)
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 5:34 PM edit delete reply

actually it was a pain in the butt. that hair has like 20 dials for control of the air.. I love it to death and hate it with a solid passion :D
Rashala 13th Mar 2017, 3:03 AM edit delete reply

I sense a fatal volley of gunfire coming.
HiFranc 13th Mar 2017, 3:42 AM edit delete reply

I sense something worse. I see Noctis's maternal instincts being awakened by the boy. She's suddenly going to want to take him home and look after him. Once the spell wears off, the excrement is going to hit the impeller.

{edit}
I go back to what Noctis said in the instructions to the other cassians. She mentioned that their minds could be chained. So far it's only their bodies that he has operated on.
mjkj 13th Mar 2017, 3:47 AM edit delete reply

Hmmm, she should have used a ranged attack... as long as she was free... (or at least thrown her sword...)

*comforts Noctis*

I guess Maxus will be nearby, seeing who she was aiming at, and finishing the 'path up...

Stormwind13 13th Mar 2017, 6:02 AM edit delete reply

Noctis is very hands on, mjkj. She doesn't DO ranged attacks. This time, it bit her in the backside.
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 5:33 PM edit delete reply

She is a melee expert. And she hates to throw away her best weapon.. If she missed thats it or if he had a shield. :D
CptKerion 13th Mar 2017, 11:50 PM edit delete reply
this is why you always carry at least one mechanism of closing the distance. Roman Legionaries carried 2 pila (pilum in the singular), Assault Marines carry bolt pistols, most D&D melee characters variously carry throwing knives, throwing axes, throwing hammers, or javelins.

It helps you get to that asshat Psy so you can more readily kill them.
guest 14th Mar 2017, 11:26 AM edit delete reply
our healer in game cant hit the barn from the inside, so no ranged weapons ..
mjkj 14th Mar 2017, 3:32 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, but she should have at least one ranged weapon...

Well, I guess when Noctis has finished her tale it will be Ada's turn to tell how doc silver saved her...

Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 10:37 AM edit delete reply
Hardly the same sort of tale, @mjkj. Ada wasn't really a first-hand witness and Dr. Silver (apparently) was using her technical skills, not her cyberpath abilities. I suppose it would provide some kind of character testimony, but when dealing with irrational levels of fear and hatred, I don't know how useful accounts of that sort will be.
megados 14th Mar 2017, 11:17 AM edit delete reply

That could go either way. This would be the third person explaining to Noctis that Dr Silver isn't a bad person. First TeeDee, then Marcus, and then (if it so happens), Ada. Noctis arguably has more reason to take Ada's word for it as well. Noctis has good reason for her belief, but she is intelligent, and could be open to new information, especially if it comes from a source she is inclined to trust.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 12:32 PM edit delete reply
I don't remember Marcus testifying to Dr. Silver's character ... just that she was his tech specialist and that he needed her alive. (But I may be glossing over things. I vaguely recall him saying she couldn't control androids, which isn't the same as 'wouldn't'.)

Now that we're in the realm of the traumatized and irrational, it is difficult to predict what Noctis may or may not react to, and whether that reaction will be positive or negative. We'll just have to see how the story goes.
megados 14th Mar 2017, 1:09 PM edit delete reply

You are correct about Marcus' statement; TeeDee said she couldn't and wouldn't. I had to go recheck. :D

I can certainly see Noctis as being traumatized, but I have a hard time depicting her as irrational. I don't think Noctis is capable of irrational.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 1:21 PM edit delete reply
Many folk (other than me) have characterized Noctis' attitude towards cyberpaths as a 'phobia' brought on by 'post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)'. This means that they (not I) are suggesting that the roots and responses she has for this fear are irrational, because that is what words like 'phobia' and 'disorder' mean. I am not suggesting she is behaving irrationally now, but then she is not confronting her phobia now.

I agree with you that, before this point, Noctis was presented as being far less likely to have an intense, traumatized reaction resulting in long-term psychological after-effects by an incident, even as horrific as this. But ... it is what it is. If she has no phobia, then it suggests that any and every thing she chose to do was for a logical and considered reason. If she has a phobia, then it implies that her behavior is being influenced (though not necessarily determined) by inappropriate and irrational urges -- again, because that's what 'phobia' means!

It seems ... inappropriate to suggest that you can have it both ways: be traumatized, but also be completely rational. I expect each reader will have to decide for themselves how much of each applies in this case.
megados 14th Mar 2017, 1:35 PM edit delete reply

Again, you are correct, as I did share in the assumption that her fear was an irrational phobia. Given this new information, however, I have to change my stance. Her fear is understandable, once one realizes that it has a basis in fact. Actually, much to my chagrin, I should have thought this through more carefully from the beginning. I feel kinda dumb now. :/

I do have to disagree, though, that someone who was traumatized, has to be irrational. If an event traumatizes a person, their reaction to it doesn't have to be irrational, especially years later. I now look at it as Noctis, having decided based on her previous experience, that she would make it as impossible as she could, for this to EVER happen again.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 2:09 PM edit delete reply
I did not say (and was careful not to say) that people suffering from phobias and traumas necessarily behave irrationally. I said they have irrational influences on their behavior. Depending on the intensity of those influences and their degree of self-control, they may well be able to overcome the influences and make a rational choice, even in the face of their phobia.

We already know that you and I disagree about the relative rationality of some of Noctis' recent choices, but those are opinions and we are each entitled to our own. But my original point was simply that using logical and reasoned argument to persuade someone to alter an inherently irrational internal motivation ... does not necessarily have a strong track record for success. The responses of the person you are trying to persuade can vary ... widely and unpredictably.
megados 14th Mar 2017, 2:23 PM edit delete reply

All I am trying to say, is that I believe that Noctis is logical and intelligent enough to abstain from dismissing new information out of hand. If she is given more information about Dr Silver, she would weigh it.

Other than that, yes, each person will come to their own conclusion. Time will tell.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 2:33 PM edit delete reply
It didn't seem to me that the fact Ada likes and trusts Dr. Silver constitutes "new information". That Dr. Silver is fiendishly competent is also unlikely to come as a surprise. I agree Noctis would be disinclined to casually dismiss actual new and relevant information from a reliable source. I'm not sure a decidedly non-neutral, recently hostile party whose acquaintance she just made a matter of hours ago meets the criteria for "reliable source", though.

On the other hand, that may just be personal bias. I find it more prudent not to give my trust to relative strangers on casual acquaintance, but others seem quite content to do so. Perhaps Noctis is more like that than am I. I, after all, don't have a super-advanced lie detector built-in -- though we haven't established if such things work on androids, anyway.
megados 14th Mar 2017, 3:10 PM edit delete reply

Bringing this full-circle then, it stemmed from @mjkj's comment that Ada could have her turn telling Noctis about her experience with Dr Silver. If Ada does that, as mjkj suggests, that would constitute new information. It would be possible for Noctis to be biased toward trust regarding Ada, since Ada is busting ass trying to save the last in the line of the Royal family, for not much more reason than "just because".
antrik 16th Mar 2017, 10:34 PM edit delete reply
@megados knowing the background now, I guess Noctis's behaviour towards the cyberpath is somewhat *understandable* -- but that doesn't make it rational. There was nothing rational in essentially forsaking Acantha's life, and asking for a full-on war against Troy, merely because of the *potential* harm the cyberpath could cause in the unlikely event she went rogue...
guest 14th Mar 2017, 11:21 AM edit delete reply
Maxus is still gladiator..
HeSerpenty 13th Mar 2017, 5:28 AM edit delete reply

oh man! This is the most expression ever seen outta NOctis me thinks! And for good reason D:
It's an even bigger slap in the face that it's coming from this shrimpy lookin' little kid! SOMEONE JUST GIVE THIS GUY A WEDGIE D:< (so noctis can cut off HIS head X"D)

T_T
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 4:43 PM edit delete reply

trust me she would really like to get to chopping already! ( thanks for commenting! :D )
and hey shrimps can be dangerous.. look at Kalverc! :D
Speedy Marsh 9th Apr 2017, 2:38 PM edit delete reply
Shrimp can be very dangerous... if you have a shellfish allergy.
Stormwind13 13th Mar 2017, 5:51 AM edit delete reply

I don't know about anyone else, but I REALLY am glad that Noctis wasn't looking at me with her glare in panel 2. =O ::Runs away anyhow::

The look on her face in panel 5... is such a mixture of emotions... It captures the shock, the horror, the fear, the despair... and more. Great job CentComm (glad Tokyo Rose let you show them for Noctis, for once). :-)
megados 13th Mar 2017, 9:31 AM edit delete reply

I agree. Stripped of her veneer of cool dispassion, and having been so mistreated, she looks very unnerving. Noctis is a force to be reckoned with. I'm not going to try to run away; I am nowhere near fast enough!

I feel very badly for Noctis. To experience the negative emotions to a degree that can make her show them on her face, . . . I cannot even comprehend. :(
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 5:32 PM edit delete reply

Side note.. I really enjoyed adding expressions to Noctis. :D
megados 13th Mar 2017, 6:14 PM edit delete reply

Oh, I believe that in a heartbeat, after having your hands tied for so long! :D
Gilrandir 13th Mar 2017, 7:57 AM edit delete reply
It would be interesting if Nox's hatred of humans spawns from this event -- which it could be argued isn't even the fault of humans at all. Psionics, like androids, aren't something regular humans get any choice about being and have so much more power and ability that they really don't seem comparable. You might make a case for the crimes of cyborgs being laid to the account of pure strain humans (PSH), since there's at least some choice there, but psi ... The real horror, like vampires, like clockwork, is that they look human, but have powers and abilities against which there is no defense. So it would seem to be analogous to saying "Werewolves ate my family. Since werewolves look like humans, I will hate humans henceforth! Maybe I'll hate werewolves, too, but they all look alike, so they all get it!"
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 4:45 PM edit delete reply

heheh interesting viewpoint.
Randonymous 13th Mar 2017, 12:55 PM edit delete reply
Man, Valerius sure has a sticky chest... Or just an amulet with a very stiff chain.
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 3:24 PM edit delete reply

Yeah yeah.. damn thing.
megados 13th Mar 2017, 3:48 PM edit delete reply

The picture was taken just as he moved forward, and it hadn't swung down yet! :D
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 4:45 PM edit delete reply

Ill take that as a excuse!
antrik 13th Mar 2017, 7:47 PM edit delete reply
Newton would object -- but nice try ;-)
megados 13th Mar 2017, 8:08 PM edit delete reply

LOL well OK, at some point during the motion, the arc of the pendulum is fully left. It was at that precise moment, the picture was taken! :D
CptKerion 14th Mar 2017, 5:34 PM edit delete reply
My guess was that it was a well disguised shield generator and was meant to stay there.
Gilrandir 13th Mar 2017, 1:14 PM edit delete reply
Another point in the earlier discussion about ID-locking: If Lord General Gracius' rifle was not ID-locked, Prince Valerius could whip it out and save the day. ^_^
highly irregular 13th Mar 2017, 8:11 PM edit delete reply
ID locking without IFF and chain of command settings… not the most ideal.
Matt Knab 13th Mar 2017, 3:37 PM edit delete reply

Sweet blur and energy effects this page. :)
Stormwind13 13th Mar 2017, 4:26 PM edit delete reply

Agreed Matt. Very well done, CentComm. Take a bow. :-)
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 4:46 PM edit delete reply

takes a Bow.. makes a noise. ok now someone will have to help me get up.. arugh.
megados 13th Mar 2017, 5:21 PM edit delete reply

*offers a hand*
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 5:31 PM edit delete reply

Thankys !
Speedy Marsh 9th Apr 2017, 2:43 PM edit delete reply
In the future, only take a bow, if it comes with arrows.
Romfire 13th Mar 2017, 3:41 PM edit delete reply
This could be something coming back to bite the Cassians. If the kid's family was targeted for death by the throne, (Justly or otherwise) and the Cassians sent to carry out that edict, this could be revenge. Being nice and letting the kids live may not always be the best option.
megados 13th Mar 2017, 3:50 PM edit delete reply

Things that make you go, "Hmmmmm"
Centcomm 13th Mar 2017, 4:46 PM edit delete reply

It is very possable. :D
Boren 13th Mar 2017, 6:41 PM edit delete reply
I don't think this was a organised assassination attempt, as was mentioned earlier if the cyberpath had simply ordered the closest on to turn and slice it's game over. No to quote one of my favorite movies "Tho creative it's too sloppy, no this has personal written all over it"
Haegan2005 13th Mar 2017, 8:36 PM edit delete reply

I happen to agree.
Stormwind13 13th Mar 2017, 8:54 PM edit delete reply

I don't know, Boren. I get the feeling more than one thing might have been involved. I don't know who was involved, if it was 'planned' or just a target of opportunity.

Was it to remove Valerius, if so... who or what would have replaced him? If it is long enough ago, who would have moved into the spot because Douchimus might not have been old enough to take over.

We have lots of questions, but not a lot of answers as yet. We'll have to see how many pieces to this puzzle we get. I have a feeling we will be kept from getting a full picture (the EVIL duo seems to relish doing that) right now. :-p
Gilrandir 13th Mar 2017, 9:42 PM edit delete reply
The absence of Parvati (instead of Mariposa) suggests (per the cast page) that this might be taking place between 31..57 years ago. Again, per the cast page, this would be before the birth of Decimus, so the question of who was next in line for succession is certainly a relevant one. This might, in fact, be exactly 31 years ago and (presumably) explain why Parvati came with a custom-programmed inhibitor, rather than the Cassian standard. (Not that it is yet clear to me how this incident would prompt that response, but the story is yet incomplete. And politicians are not often held up as examples of folk who make wise and rational choices in the face of difficult circumstances, so there's that to consider as well. ^_^ )
Timotheus 14th Mar 2017, 11:26 AM edit delete reply

The one person introduced in the story so far that would find this situation desirable would be Decimus's mother. I can readily see where she would want to further discredit the "clockwork"s and create chaos for her to exploit. The success of the assassination attempt would be immaterial, it would be the "act" that mattered.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 12:44 PM edit delete reply
I'm not sure I agree, @Timotheus. Admittedly, we know little about Decimus' mom. (Except possibly that if my timeframe conjectures are correct she could be that redhead who was hanging on Prince Valerius's arm earlier -- and the dress seems a bit ... subdued for a diva.) However, attempting to discredit 'dangerous clockwork' as a tool of civic policy seems awfully 'self-sacrificing' when the clockwork in question are programmed for unquestionable loyalty to ... you (and your house).

It's hard to imagine Cassians being tolerated at all in anti-mechanical Nova Roma unless their loyalty were considered reliable in spite of the anti-A.I. bias. And, if that's the case, the one group that should be counted on not to seek to diminish their power would be those whose interests that power serves, as a matter of self-interest. Diminishing the Cassians weakens the power of the throne, and Decimus' mother doesn't seem the sort to do that while she is sitting on it (or near to it). Unless, of course, it was part of a bigger play to end up with greater power and influence in the long run -- which is possible, of course. But I don't see any ready path to that served by discrediting the Cassians. That would seem to imply she's already plotting an assassination at some future time, before her child is even born.
Timotheus 14th Mar 2017, 5:27 PM edit delete reply

For arguments sake, let's suggest she might want to make her husband/consort less reliant on the cassian's abilities as guards and protectors and/or discredit their status as loyal and dependable to the state for her own purposes.
Oh, and happy Pi Day.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 5:39 PM edit delete reply
Fair enough. Just to pick a wild example, she might have a lover high in the Praetorian Guard's officers ranks and want to see their role expanded to improve his opportunities for promotion. But (to attack my own strawman) that wouldn't seem well thought out since it would seem likely (to me) that she would lose more than she gained. And, based on what little we know, she did not seem at all inept at games of manipulation and influence. But, as you correctly point out, there are all sorts of possibilities. I just can't think of many plausible scenarios that have her behind it. An imagination failure on my part, I suppose.

Happy Pi day to you as well.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 3:31 PM edit delete reply
On a completely different tangent -- inspired by a commentary reference (by me) to built-in android lie-detection capabilities that probably work on humans, but not on androids (just my opinion) -- it occurs to me that the android designers appear to have overlooked a serious bet in DataChasers.

Most municipalities appear to have some laws in place to prevent androids from 'passing' as human, and there are obvious ethical concerns (as well as possible technical issues) involved in trying to create a conscious thinking machine (i.e., a synthbrain) that would be constrained to be unable to lie; however, would it be morally questionable to make such lies by androids detectable?

After all, androids can tell when humans are lying. One would not be preventing the android from lying in any way, if that was what it wanted to do. But, by building in a "Pinocchio Circuit" that would provide a reliable and obvious indication every time an android told a lie you could strongly disincentivize strategies of deception by androids against humans, without impinging on their free will. It's hard to see how this would be any more ethically questionable than the existing core directives, for example. Dolly's series 5 prototype, obviously would not include said circuit, nor would the various 'espionage droids' (Black Angels, Cassians, etc.). But the lack of such a circuit would, itself, be a warning indicator for those needing to deal with androids on a regular basis. And, given what inhibitors can apparently do as far as evaluating behavior, the technical challenge of building the "Pinocchio Circuit" would seem simplistic by comparison.

So, would such a design constraint deserve moral outrage? Are androids somehow 'entitled' to be able to deceive humans, even though they cannot be deceived by humans? Or am I missing an obvious technical barrier to such a thing. Some sociopolitical reason why such a thing would not be cost-effective? Help me out. ^_^
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 4:40 PM edit delete reply
And, thinking of indicators which may (or may not) be built into androids, this is a question for the creative team: Given what we have already seen established in earlier canon with other androids, in panel 2 (and subsequent panels), should Noctis' eyes have gone red?
All the Pickles 14th Mar 2017, 5:34 PM edit delete reply

I think that's just the NTAS eyes. While plenty of New Troy androids had their eyes turn red when entering combat mode, Noctis has always kept her shade of yellow. Even back around #1327 when she was mowing down the Blues, there was no change.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 5:47 PM edit delete reply
We know it isn't just NTAS androids because we see Kali's eyes change color here (Comic 694 - Fear factor...).

My hypothesis has been that the red eyes were a danger indicator programmed in when an android's emotional levels were sufficiently intense as to possibly override core directives -- not that the directives were actually being violated, just that they could be, so any human needed to know "If you can see this, you're too close." ^_^

Most of the times, such as when battling insurgents, I expect the Cassians are killing in a more or less cool and dispassionate manner for the purpose of accomplishing their missions and fulfilling their duties. But if Noctis' face is broadcasting her emotional state (especially in panel 2), it seems we could make a case for the indicator tripping as well.
All the Pickles 14th Mar 2017, 6:21 PM edit delete reply

Good point, I had forgotten about that one. I can't think of a situation where any other Cassian (except Nox, obviously) had red eyes. Malati (#1204), Samanta (#1292), Noctis (#1327), and even Kali herself later (#1369) don't get the red eyes effect when fighting. It's hard to tell with Hrist, but I think the red light was from her visor, not her eyes. It might have been a Kali-style intimidation thing. Judging by the cast page, Kali might have also been newer than the others and have different design parameters. As for your point about emotions, Kali didn't seem very emotional there. Sure she was just insulted, but she seemed to calmly and dispassionately eliminate the guy unsuited to being a guard.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 6:57 PM edit delete reply
I think one of the points being established is that androids don't always show their emotions in their faces ... because they don't have to. However, I will point out the different font used by Kali in that scene -- which I don't believe we ever see again. I agree the evidence is circumstantial and incomplete, which is why I was asking the creatrices about it. ^_^

EDIT: Besides, imagine how it would look if she (Noctis) had red eyes in panels 2 & 4, and reverted back to yellow eyes for panel 5. ^_^
Tokyo Rose 14th Mar 2017, 9:10 PM edit delete reply

The red-eyes thing is generally used for intimidation (as Kali did). It can also be set as a visual "overclock" indicator (like Connie). It's an optional feature.
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 9:28 PM edit delete reply
Thank you. So, it's just like clicking over to "high beams", then.
DLKmusic 14th Mar 2017, 7:01 PM edit delete reply

*Rolls out three crates of tomatoes for everyone's convenience*

I would like to be a voice of objectivity here, and please remember before everyone starts throwing these tomatoes at me, that I was the one that Made the Godzilla comparison, so even before this arc started, I understood Noctis's feelings on the matter.

With that disclaimer in mind, As bad as what the cyberpath is doing here, he HAS NOT done anything any worse that what the Cassians have done throughout their history in Nova Roma, as a matter of fact, it appears that he is mimicing what the Cassians do.

With that being said, I though you might all enjoy this...

With a Terrible Grimace and a frightful glare, she tells everybody to get out of her chair...
She picks up a wire and puts it back down and a power plant blows in the center of town...
Helpless people on the internet scream to God cuz the connection went dead...

Oh, No, they say she's got to go... go go Doc Silver!
Oh, No, there goes Tokyo... go go Doc Silver!

History shows us again and again why androids fear the evolution of man... Doc Silver
History shows us again and again why androids fear the evolution of man...

Doc Silver.


You may help yourselves to those tomatoes now...

Edit: It occurred to me that I was missing a line in the verse... Thanks, Gil!
megados 14th Mar 2017, 7:18 PM edit delete reply

I am not throwing any tomatoes; I thought it was pretty good! I am, however, going to take one tomato, and use it to complete my BLT. :D
Gilrandir 14th Mar 2017, 7:26 PM edit delete reply
Very nice, @DLKmusic. (For those needing to familiarize themselves with the tune as I did, I believe this link may prove useful.)
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