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Comic 1529 - Air Quotes

14th Jul 2017, 12:00 AM
Air Quotes
Average Rating: 5 (19 votes)

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Centcomm 15th Jul 2017, 8:16 PM edit delete
Centcomm
Today.. a year ago i had surgery and i quit smoking. yeah 365 and some change. No more cigarettes. Not one mistake not one slip. Thank you Rose and others for keeping on me and helping me though this.
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Mark_L_A 14th Jul 2017, 12:02 AM edit delete reply

Methinks Lynn is about to defenestrate a psych nanny
megados 14th Jul 2017, 12:38 AM edit delete reply
I think you put your foot in it there, Calli.* It's going to be difficult keeping her away from Acantha, and might not be a good idea. This could cause some friction.

*I'll bet she mentioned that term to the therapist.
cattservant 14th Jul 2017, 1:29 AM edit delete reply

Just call it diplomacy...
mjkj 14th Jul 2017, 2:24 AM edit delete reply

Awwwww...

...poor Lynn... *hugs her*

I wonder if she really sees Acantha as a "perpetrator" or a fellow victim...

HiFranc 14th Jul 2017, 3:36 AM edit delete reply

She is a fellow victim.
mjkj 14th Jul 2017, 2:02 PM edit delete reply

Yeah, I also think she sees her as fellow victim - therefore no cause for stockholm...
megados 14th Jul 2017, 9:54 AM edit delete reply
Lynn? I think she sees Acantha as a friend, as well.
chk 14th Jul 2017, 11:31 AM edit delete reply

Yes. Fellow victim and friend. They've been through some tough stuff together. The shrink has no way of knowing the full story yet.

(I find it interesting that 'Stockholm Syndrome' is still known after all the changes taken place since the twentieth century.)
antrik 14th Jul 2017, 12:14 PM edit delete reply
I don't think this is really about Acantha specifically. The problem is that Calliope, the shrink, and probably other Trojans too, are conflating all of Roma into one big baddie. They fail to appreciate that most of the Romans Lynn actually had dealings with, were *not* in favour of her captivity at all -- that she isn't in fact apologetic of her *true* captor, which was pretty much just Prince Headcase himself.

I wonder whether grandma Athena will be the one to put some reason into them... She knows a thing or two about such things as politics and foreign relations, after all :-) In fact I'm sure she wouldn't mind at all seeing Lynn follow in her footsteps, becoming an ambassador too...

(Well, once she starts acting a bit more like an adult I guess ;-) )
Ebonbolt 14th Jul 2017, 9:13 PM edit delete reply

Don't forget the actual kidnappers. Although, seems to me everyone pro-kidnapping wound up dead (maybe one didn't, I'll have to look back, see what happened to delivery girl).
antrik 15th Jul 2017, 3:17 AM edit delete reply
I didn't forget; in fact I considered mentioning them too... But decided that they aren't really relevant in this :-)

Last time we saw, Dari was in a cell in the Black Palace. Unless someone released her in the chaos of the rebellion, she's probably still there. I wonder though what they will do with her: as she was brought in only because Decimus wanted to make a statement, strictly speaking they have no reason to hold her... She might be back in the wastes and plotting revenge on Dolly.
Timotheus 15th Jul 2017, 3:29 PM edit delete reply

I would pretty much count on her being freed and seeking revenge. The set-up practically shouts, "Yo, returning villain here!"
antrik 15th Jul 2017, 6:11 PM edit delete reply
That's my fear... I hate returning villains :-(
HiFranc 14th Jul 2017, 3:33 AM edit delete reply

An interesting point of comparison would be the relationship between Lynn and Acantha, and the events that gave the world that term.
Greenwood Goat 14th Jul 2017, 5:18 AM edit delete reply
Could this be near the truth...?

Tokyo Rose: ++Listen, Cent-Comm - if you let Lynn and Acantha get together, there'll be smiles, and handholding, and hugs, and kisses, and then there'll be cuddling, and then you're on the slippery slope to shoujo-ai shipping fanservice fucking city, and I'll have to ready the anti-shipping missiles.++

Cent-Comm: ++I am obliged to warn you that any attack on New Troy will be met with retaliation. But no, I am not minded to risk conflict over such a minor thing. I shall counsel Calliope, and come up with a plausible reason to keep them physically apart.++

Tokyo Rose: ++Stockholm syndrome. There you go. Glad to be of help. Rose out.++LINK TERMINATED++

Cent-Comm: *considers this for 2.8567 seconds* ++Analysis complete. Best excuse for keeping them apart: countermeasure against possible Stockholm syndrome. I hate it when Rose does that. Activating Doll #082, seeking dialogue with Calliope Taylor.++

>:=)>
Sheela 15th Jul 2017, 7:12 AM edit delete reply

Of course those two would be involved ... typical, really.
Steven-Vincent 14th Jul 2017, 7:48 AM edit delete reply

Why do I get the feeling Lynn and Mom are about to have an argument. Nah... couldn't be.
velvetsanity 14th Jul 2017, 10:00 AM edit delete reply

For the same reason most such parent-child disagreements start. Parent interference due to arrogantly thinking they know best without knowing more than a very small fraction of the facts.
Deoxy 14th Jul 2017, 11:28 AM edit delete reply
"For the same reason most such parent-child disagreements start."

Ah, you're going to say, "Child doesn't know enough to know what they don't know."

Heh.

I would say that your statement and mine are the TWO reasons, and that it's usually a mix of them. How much of each varies considerably, of course.
guest 14th Jul 2017, 10:23 AM edit delete reply
..now that Dolly is there,, (an raised em both ) " both of you stop.! or so help ill turn this car around.." ".. you think she needs therapy, fine I WILL find therapist ,, an see if she needs one.. an Lynn drop the attitude,! that may have been when you were 13 , you are an adult now act like it.!!"
Guest 16th Jul 2017, 2:18 AM edit delete reply
hear Hear! Someone buy Guest a drink here!
antrik 14th Jul 2017, 11:47 AM edit delete reply
Why did Calliope change her hair colour from blonde to grey? And more importantly: how did she manage to make it longer in the process?! ;-)

(That hairstyle feels a bit weird to me, because she somewhat reminds me of other characters this way... But that's probably just me.)
Rigor 14th Jul 2017, 1:41 PM edit delete reply
Extender gel was previously introduced as a hair lengthening technology.
antrik 14th Jul 2017, 1:52 PM edit delete reply
Yeah, I know: "XVII The Star Upright..." (presently at http://datachasers.thecomicseries.com/comics/1023 ). My question wasn't entirely serious, I have to admit :-)
Centcomm 14th Jul 2017, 2:22 PM edit delete reply

it is blond but it does look a bit grey in these lights they have a strong blueish cast to them. And the hair is ash grey. Also women in Troy change there hair almost as often as there moods. Except for Cent. And Ada
megados 14th Jul 2017, 4:15 PM edit delete reply
. . . and Dolly! :D
Stormwind13 14th Jul 2017, 6:48 PM edit delete reply

Actually Dolly changed her hair color and style in mirror from 3 July 2017 (currently page 195).
megados 14th Jul 2017, 7:20 PM edit delete reply
She did, but she changed it from the default that came with her new body to her "usual" hair color, and doesn't really make a habit of changing it. :D
Tokyo Rose 14th Jul 2017, 8:35 PM edit delete reply

Cent mentioned that there was some problem with the hairstyle she originally put on Calli.
antrik 14th Jul 2017, 12:19 PM edit delete reply
I'd say the *situation* called for air quotes... I actually read that speech bubble before scrolling the page, and I was picturing air quotes as I was reading it -- then I went, "oh, there they are" :-)
jamie59 14th Jul 2017, 7:14 PM edit delete reply

Considering Acantha was about just as much a hostage doubt that would be a concern. Now hostage bonding. Maybe. But would that be a problem.
Stormwind13 14th Jul 2017, 8:33 PM edit delete reply

True jamie, unless Lynn slipped up and told the therapist that Douchimus assigned Acantha to watch over her {WTF?, Sick plot and Snapping Point from 21 and 30 October 2007, pages 361, 362, 372 and 373 currently}. Add to that, if Lynn said anything about how Douchimus linked Lynn's behavior to how Acantha was treated, they could see that as Acantha possibly manipulating Lynn. Drawing Lynn into a mutually supportive friendship when Acantha could actually be the one behind her captivity. Which would fit with Stockholm Syndrome.
DLKmusic 15th Jul 2017, 12:49 AM edit delete reply

Or, and far more likely, Calli mentioned Stockholm Syndrome to the therapist, and knowing which side of the bread her butter is on, the therapist went into the session with a preconceived notion of what the problem was.
megados 15th Jul 2017, 1:00 AM edit delete reply
That was kind of what I was thinking, DLKmusic.
antrik 15th Jul 2017, 3:33 AM edit delete reply
I don't believe Calliope directly mentioned Stockholm syndrome to the shrink, since she straight-out denied that in the last bubble. However, even without mentioning it directly, when Calliope was briefing the shrink on the situation, it probably became pretty clear what her concern was... So yeah, the shrink was likely pretty much put up to it either way.
megados 15th Jul 2017, 8:04 AM edit delete reply
What Calliope said, was that she did not tell the therapist to say that, or that it was what Lynn had. That didn't preclude her from having mentioned it. She well may not have, but her statement doesn't rule it out. For instance, Calliope could have asked the therapist, "What about Stockholm Syndrome?", and still be accurate and truthful in the last panel.
antrik 15th Jul 2017, 10:35 AM edit delete reply
I believe most humans would consider that a rather clear lie. This is not a conversation between Noctis and Cent-Comm: most humans -- especially of the female persuasion -- tend to be less strict about wording, when the general *intention* is clear.
megados 15th Jul 2017, 11:54 AM edit delete reply
You could well be right, but I find the coincidence of their speaking in unison a bit . . . troubling.
DLKmusic 15th Jul 2017, 5:56 PM edit delete reply

@Antrik "I believe most humans would consider that a rather clear lie."

Let us not leave out the possibility that Calli may in fact be lying, or at least deliberately misleading. Parents will lie to their children when they think it is in their children's best interest to not know the truth.
antrik 15th Jul 2017, 3:25 AM edit delete reply
@Stromwind13 it would only count as Stockholm Syndrome if Lynn actually believed that Acantha was really behind her captivity... The other case -- if she was actually deceived -- would be even more problematic of course: but it wouldn't be Stockholm Syndrome.
DLKmusic 14th Jul 2017, 7:45 PM edit delete reply

If this isn't parental interference, I don't know what is...

Someone needs to pull that stick out of Calli's arse. Hopefully Dolly will volunteer for the job.
Stormwind13 14th Jul 2017, 8:54 PM edit delete reply

And you expected something DIFFERENT, DLK? :-D I mean Calliope 'lost' Lynn to a madman. With CentComm's help she managed to snatch her baby back from that hell alive. Calliope is going to MOTHER Lynn near to death for awhile, I think. And Dolly might HELP her, because of how close she came to losing Lynn too.
DLKmusic 15th Jul 2017, 12:44 AM edit delete reply

I expected them both to keep a much tighter leash on her, sure... but Dolly helping with this? She was much closer to the situation and knows that Acantha was trying to get Lynn out of Nova Roma. For Calliope to treat Acantha like the enemy is misguided but understandable. For Dolly to do the same is not.
antrik 15th Jul 2017, 4:45 AM edit delete reply
As I said in another comment, I don't think this is really about Acantha. Even if Dolly fully understands Acantha's situation, she might still be in the camp of those who think that Lynn has formed an unhealthy attachment to Roma in general; and her contact with Acantha reinforces this attachment...

What they fail to understand -- possibly even Dolly (we shall see on the next couple of pages) -- is that Lynn doesn't really have much of a positive opinion on Roma as a whole; but rather she formed a very differentiated picture of the various aspects of and forces in Roma, and only roots for the positive ones -- which isn't really a bad thing.

That's why I think Athena might play a role in this: being an ambassador, she has a much better understanding of the important distinctions.
KarToon12 14th Jul 2017, 9:54 PM edit delete reply

I'm with antrik on this: the shrinks and her mom need to get the full story first before they start lumping people together.
Gilrandir 14th Jul 2017, 10:16 PM edit delete reply
If you are inclined to believe that it takes more than a single one-hour session to get "the full story", then they don't really have that luxury before issuing some kind of recommendation at the first session's end. Erring on the side of caution would seem the professional and responsible thing to do.
Rashala 15th Jul 2017, 2:15 AM edit delete reply

After a all that I'd not be surprised if she has centcommphobia
antrik 15th Jul 2017, 4:34 AM edit delete reply
Everyone has that; no need for a diagnosis ;-)
Centcomm 15th Jul 2017, 2:39 PM edit delete reply

Yeah its pretty much a given along wit lackofprivacy-ists
antrik 15th Jul 2017, 6:23 PM edit delete reply
I see you got a new look :-)

Not sure how to read your statement, though...
Centcomm 15th Jul 2017, 8:14 PM edit delete reply

Most New troy citizens are used to a certain level of non privacy
Rashala 16th Jul 2017, 2:15 AM edit delete reply

Oh centy centy centy if you only knew what I am building in secret!
Timotheus 15th Jul 2017, 3:20 PM edit delete reply

In my own opinion, they should have called it "debriefing" not "therapy" and gotten Lynn to tell them her whole story from start to finish from her point of view. It would have been far more useful for determining her mental state and provided a lot of background information to evaluate it against.
Also not nearly as suspicious.
Stormwind13 15th Jul 2017, 8:25 PM edit delete reply

Yay! Glad you have stayed smoke free for a year. Keep it up! :-)
Ictuan 15th Jul 2017, 8:45 PM edit delete reply
Ya, congratulations on making it through your first smoke free year. I hope you are able to stay smoke free.
megados 15th Jul 2017, 9:00 PM edit delete reply
I can only say this one way @Centcomm: I am very proud of you!

New avatar looks great!
Centcomm 16th Jul 2017, 1:17 AM edit delete reply

Thank you! Its by the wonderful artist toharrys. She does unknown lands here on comic fury. Check her out!
megados 16th Jul 2017, 3:04 PM edit delete reply
Will do, @Centcomm :)
Timotheus 16th Jul 2017, 2:31 AM edit delete reply

How time flies when you're still breathing.
chk 16th Jul 2017, 1:49 PM edit delete reply

Yep. Congratulations. It ain't easy.
guest 15th Jul 2017, 10:31 PM edit delete reply
@Centcomm" congrats.! an love the new avatar..
knuut 15th Jul 2017, 11:16 PM edit delete reply
As one ex-smoker to another, take a deep breath and revel in the fact that it doesn't hurt. Congratulations.
Centcomm 16th Jul 2017, 1:16 AM edit delete reply

well sometimes but that's only because my sternum still is sore at times.
knuut 16th Jul 2017, 2:40 PM edit delete reply
Oops! ... forgot about that. Sorry. My own 'moment of enlightenment' involved bronchitis becoming pneumonia becoming a week of delirium in the ICU but no bone damage.
Fjolsvith 16th Jul 2017, 1:40 AM edit delete reply

Love the Japanese robe!
mjkj 16th Jul 2017, 3:33 PM edit delete reply

Congratulations, Cent =D
jlr071543@cableone.net 16th Jul 2017, 7:18 PM edit delete reply
Congratulations! I know first hand what it's like to quit. I quit sometime in the 1970s and it took me 6 months just to figure out what to do with my hands, and probably 2 years to stop craving one after I ate. Now, I can't stand to be around anyone that smokes. Hang in there, it DOES get easier. Jerry
jlr071543@cableone.net 16th Jul 2017, 7:18 PM edit delete reply
Congratulations! I know first hand what it's like to quit. I quit sometime in the 1970s and it took me 6 months just to figure out what to do with my hands, and probably 2 years to stop craving one after I ate. Now, I can't stand to be around anyone that smokes. Hang in there, it DOES get easier. Jerry
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