Comic 1657 - Take It Down

28th Aug 2019, 12:00 AM
Take It Down
Average Rating: 5 (16 votes)
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CptKerion 28th Aug 2019, 12:20 AM edit delete reply
So what is the weapon make the KAM!KAM! there? It looks different from other energy and projectile weapons we've seen with regularity.
Centcomm 28th Aug 2019, 12:22 AM edit delete reply

Double barreled rail pistol.
Fairportfan 28th Aug 2019, 3:08 AM edit delete reply

the recoil on something like that has to be ferocious.
megados 28th Aug 2019, 8:18 AM edit delete reply

Maybe it has inertial dampening or stabilizer of some sort?
Oldarmourer 28th Aug 2019, 9:02 AM edit delete reply

Not necessarily, it''s likely a longer smoother acceleration curve than a chemical propellant and the mass of the projectile wouldn't need to be as high as the velocity increases...that plus a little extra thermal damage from the projectile turning into plasma from friction isn't a bad thing and that energy doesn't come directly from the weapon itself :)
megados 28th Aug 2019, 9:22 AM edit delete reply

I'm not seeing how there could be a longer acceleration curve since there's a finite length of barrel there. Length is length. Mass to velocity is still mass to velocity. Accelerating a lighter mass at higher acceleration still carries the same Newtonian value. Physics is physics, unless acted on in some other way; another force, such as inertial dampening.

*edit It doesn't have to be fancy; it could consist of something like a spring loaded cylindrical counter-mass in the opposite direction to offset the recoil.
Oldarmourer 28th Aug 2019, 12:59 PM edit delete reply

True, the relationship between mass and velocity does give a result of total 'power' and Newton still rules in that for every action there is an equal reaction, but there's a significant difference in apparent recoil between a sudden initial burst as from a chemical reaction and a smoother constant acceleration along the length of the barrel, and a marked difference in that 'felt' recoil with a lighter projectile that needs less applied energy to overcome it's inertia and get it moving to begin with. A hot .22 and a light .38 can have similar muzzle energy but the felt recoil is markedly less with the .22 because it's easier to get the lighter bullet moving and with the weight of the weapons being similar there's a greater 'soaking up' of the recoil in starting the inert mass of the weapon moving.

In this case, I'd think the projectile would possibly be the same weight as a .22, maybe less if it's made of a hard alloy to resist being 'plasmafied' until it left the barrel and is lighter than lead. The impulse would likely be a smooth acceleration along successively more intense magnetic coils rather than a detonation/deflagration of a chemical propellant with it's impulse being felt strongest at the initial stage rather than the later ones and the actual energy being imparted to the projectile being more of a 'pull' than a 'push' which would also affect the 'equal and opposite' vector.

I can see a very light 'felt' recoil for that sort of system, or possibly zero recoil depending on the additive vectors, especially with a weapon of greater mass than one of today's sidearms and that hogleg don't look any too light to me ;)

"ye canna change tha laws'a physics, Cap'n" but you can use them to your advantage ;)

and if that doesn't work then the kinetic and dynamic energy eating nanobots added from their reservoir with each shot would simply shit out the recoil and muzzle flip thereby saving poor Olina's wrist for better things, like first aid ;)
(39th century magic for the win !!)
megados 28th Aug 2019, 1:18 PM edit delete reply

Yes and no. The chemically propelled system is more like a piston within a cylinder, than just blowing the projectile out of the way. As the chemical reaction takes place, there's a build up of pressure, and the projectile is eventually forced to start moving, and pressure continues to increase as long as there is propellant expansion, and the inertia of the projectile is being overcome. The piston continues accelerating toward the end of the cylinder (projectile through barrel) until it reaches the end. Muzzle flash indicates that the gas being released is still ionized and very hot. There was pressure accelerating the projectile all along the length of the barrel, rather than just blowing it out of the way. If you look at a .223 for instance, the projectile is not a lot heavier than a .22, but considerably more recoil since it's being accelerated faster.

There are electromagnetic guns that operate using a series of coils, but a rail gun typically consists of a pair of charged rails and a 'shoe' which is the projectile. It requires no switching, and instead uses the magnetic field caused by high current to accelerate it.

There are a lot of ideas as to how this could work, and I like the balance this configuration would provide, in that there would be virtually no torsion on the grip and muzzle lift would be virtually eliminated.
Morituri 28th Aug 2019, 2:14 PM edit delete reply
The 'disc guns' used by some military forces in the Jessica-17 storyverse use relatively low-velocity projectiles that carry most of their kinetic energy in angular momentum. They always fire an even number of discs, with opposite spin to even out the 'kick' against each other. So you have a handheld, pistol style, weapon firing "light" projectiles at something like 400 m/s, but when the projectiles land they break up delivering the kind of kinetic energy you'd expect of a .50 cal.

Probably the sort of thing somebody developed when explosive shells were outlawed.
robnot 31st Aug 2019, 12:03 PM edit delete reply
yes necessarily.. the rail guns we have today, have nasty recoil.. even the homemade "backpack" ones are tied down an remote fired.. tho i would not call em man portable,, more like crew served
Speedy 6th Sep 2019, 2:01 AM edit delete reply
Re: alt text - Apparently Skeeter is also armed with a rear-mounted mass driver. (Or, as he calls it, an Ass Driver) Useful for supersonically excreting his spent fuel cells. ;)
megados 28th Aug 2019, 12:23 AM edit delete reply

Better late than never Olina! It's Skeeter all the way!

Good to see that Cyana is "life signs present". Poor kid.

In panel 3, shouldn't Olina's weapon have had fire/projectiles emanating from it? It's making the sound of firing. Or do I not understand how it works?
Centcomm 28th Aug 2019, 12:31 AM edit delete reply

Nope they move too fast to be present other than the flash of plasma as the casing evaporates..
megados 28th Aug 2019, 12:40 AM edit delete reply

Oh, so that's the flash in panel 2, and in 3 that's still the same sound from 2, but the flash is done? (I think I get it)

Where can I get one? :D
Centcomm 28th Aug 2019, 12:42 AM edit delete reply

oh various arms dealers. they are one of the many powerful weapons in the DC universe...
Oldarmourer 28th Aug 2019, 9:03 AM edit delete reply

I expected Olina to show up with a belt-fed version...or maybe Cyana's father is dragging one around the corner to join in ? :)
Thracecius 3rd Sep 2019, 7:22 PM edit delete reply

Unless Goldy-Bot (soon to be Bits) gets remarkably tougher the more damage it takes (I have no idea how that could happen outside Japanese anime), I'm pretty sure the added abuse will finish this thing off in short order.

So Centcomm, is this pistol anything like the system the Geth use? Those mini-gun things they have in ME3 are serious hardware and sound like they use a similar principle to what you're describing. :)
Oldarmourer 3rd Sep 2019, 10:56 PM edit delete reply
The firing coils work on the 'FM' principle.
Thracecius 4th Sep 2019, 1:59 PM edit delete reply

The FM principle? Does 'FM' stand for F***in' Magnificent? :D
megados 4th Sep 2019, 2:27 PM edit delete reply

I was thinking 'fuckin' magic'
Oldarmourer 4th Sep 2019, 11:05 PM edit delete reply
Give the man a cee-gar, he knows his airplane fixin' words ;)
Haegan2005 28th Aug 2019, 12:28 AM edit delete reply

Why do I get the feeling the shiny is not insured???

Probably because no villians ever insure their equipment, right?

I did not expect this to actually happen. But upon a little thought a few things came to me. I get the impression that this fight is not taking place near New Troy. Given the amount of time that has passed (that I know of) I do not think that this shiny is the other shiny. Unless it is dang fast and we do not see that in how it is moving.

Second, I think that it is/was damaged or was in bad repair for some reason based off of the text that I have been seeing. Especially the word repetition indicating possible malfunctions.

So I think that this is something new to the wasteland. Crashed shuttle maybe? If so, from where? If it is from someones current war machine on the planet then it looks like the shiny's did a few bad things to the owners before wondering out on their own.

Hmm. Not enough information yet to do more then speculate, but that is the fun part, right?
sigpig 28th Aug 2019, 1:46 PM edit delete reply

A few things...
1. Ophelia and her crew may have damaged it before being wiped out;
2. I "believe" that they were closer to Nova Roma than New Troy;
3. Shiny carapace, reminds me of Luna androids;
4. Railguns would be using "sabot" rounds - the actual projectile is of smaller calibre than the barrel; and
5. A head-shot and a through-and-through - Goldie is toast...
Jack Simth 29th Aug 2019, 7:57 AM edit delete reply
Unless you're planning insurance fraud, insurance is something you put on things you have very few of that you need greatly. It's not put on things you have a lot of, or on things that you can easily do without.

The reason:
Insurance companies make a profit.

No, seriously. That's the reason. The short version, anyway.

Insurance companies basically multiply the cost of a covered claim by the probability of it happening in the covered timeframe (using the 0-1 range of probability), add a percentage, and then charge that. So if you have a fleet of 1000 cars, you get the minimally-required insurance (and if you dig a bit, you can in fact be self-insured in most jurisdictions), because it'll cost you less to pay for replacements than it will to pay for insurance. On the other hand, if you only have one car (that you need to get back & forth to work), you probably want insurance sufficient to replace it quickly in the event of an accident.

... and I suspect that Goldie is NOT insured.
Oldarmourer 29th Aug 2019, 8:34 AM edit delete reply

Damage insurance on a vehicle is generally only mandatory when you use it a collateral for a loan and the lender demands it as a condition of that loan.
Liability insurance is mandatory under law (depending on your area) as a condition of being permitted to drive on public spaces.
If you own the car outright and never drive it on public roads then you don't need insurance, which is why race cars don't normally have licence plates or registration ;)
megados 29th Aug 2019, 8:49 AM edit delete reply

That would put a whole new spin on things if race cars had to have liability insurance. ;)
Oldarmourer 29th Aug 2019, 1:56 PM edit delete reply
It's cheaper to just print waivers of indemnity on the tickets ;)
Haegan2005 29th Aug 2019, 7:51 PM edit delete reply

Goodness gracious!

Tis meant as a joke, folks!

And yes, military hardware is not normally insured.
Oldarmourer 30th Aug 2019, 5:34 AM edit delete reply

You do realize we could post three random characters and the discussion will carry on for days...

# W ^
megados 30th Aug 2019, 9:46 AM edit delete reply

Insurance on #, W, or ^ is going to be expensive unless you bundle . . . XD
Oldarmourer 30th Aug 2019, 11:47 AM edit delete reply
Why insure a ^ ? It's cheaper to buy a new one than pay the premiums once the warranty expires.
megados 30th Aug 2019, 1:31 PM edit delete reply

That's very true, and I would usually buy two to have a spare. (A lot of the time you can find a BOGO - win win) But I found out that if you have a # and/or a W, and you bundle it with a ^, you can save enough on the # and the W to make it up, so it's like getting it free!*

*Offer not valid in all locations.
Oldarmourer 30th Aug 2019, 9:41 PM edit delete reply
I think I'm going to wait until the new ^*'s come out, their phlogiston retention seems to better, on papaer anyway, the old ^'s get a little wonky after a bit, although they do have their good points too.
megados 30th Aug 2019, 11:31 PM edit delete reply

I have a few ^s around, and a couple saved for parts, so I'm good there; I can wait. For my purpose, they're OK. I think the specs on the ^*s are impressive, but I'm not sure I like how they handled the Richardson quotient. That's just a workaround; they can't put out a production unit that way. I'm gonna hold off until they get their issues sorted.
Haegan2005 31st Aug 2019, 12:25 AM edit delete reply

Groans...
Oldarmourer 31st Aug 2019, 8:08 PM edit delete reply
Never tempt old guys with time on their hands...
I retired yesterday, I've got absolutely nothing better to do than this ;)
megados 31st Aug 2019, 8:43 PM edit delete reply

'Grats! :D
Oldarmourer 31st Aug 2019, 12:40 PM edit delete reply
There does seem to be a little problem with transverse flux capacitance in the rectilinear bypass but there's a software patch out that recalibrates the tardisinal network to balance it so that should stabilize everything.
megados 31st Aug 2019, 3:12 PM edit delete reply

Ah, so you DID see it. Well spotted! :D

So do you see why I say it's a workaround? If you said the patch didn't compensate for variable changes, then pat yourself on the back and take two Internets out of petty cash!

Richardson's Law, part C clearly states that if something changes, something else will also change somewhere. The patch didn't take that into account, and it could lead to instability. They used a constant for V instead of a direct proportion as in V=∆C/t, where C is change and t is time.
Oldarmourer 31st Aug 2019, 8:00 PM edit delete reply
Well of course all change is variable, just all change isn't for the good and all movment isn't forward, the one thing I keep hearing is that this one didn't come from a sales committee but was a result of something spotted during on-the-floor testing so there's a bit of promise there, it doesn't add tot the price so that makes me wonder but the premise seems sound. The Delta V seems to be modulated on a Heisenburgian control net now which may or may not be a good thing, it's hard to be certain without having one in my hands.
megados 1st Sep 2019, 8:41 AM edit delete reply

Well, as I said, I'm'na wait. I see a recall on the horizon.
Centcomm 2nd Sep 2019, 12:14 PM edit delete reply

dies.. :D
Oldarmourer 2nd Sep 2019, 3:45 PM edit delete reply
QUICK!!! CPR for the dead artist....

Oh, wait, can you do CPR on someone who had their sternum hacksawed open and wired shut again ?

They didn't teach that in any of the classes...
Should make it easier though, after the initial 'crack' ;)
megados 2nd Sep 2019, 5:28 PM edit delete reply

Yeah you can, as long as it's not right after it's wired shut. You do the compression, I'll do pulmonary. (I don't wanna get blamed) XD

*Calls ambulance*
Oldarmourer 2nd Sep 2019, 10:11 PM edit delete reply
*Precordial thump...slam* again!!! *SLAM*

one-two-three-four-five-six-seven-eight-nine-ten
BREATHE !!

one-two-three-four-five-six-seven-eight-nine-ten
BREATHE !!

WAKE UP DAMN YOU !!!
I want to see what happens next and I don't want to see a SKEETER stick figure !!
megados 2nd Sep 2019, 10:20 PM edit delete reply

Skeeter stick figure? I can only imagine it would resemble a lit match. ;)
Oldarmourer 2nd Sep 2019, 11:23 PM edit delete reply
No, that's going to be Goldiebot in a few frames :) (with any luck)
SKEETER's more like an oil lamp...
Centcomm 2nd Sep 2019, 11:56 PM edit delete reply

*gasp!* Ack aggg! pppth!
megados 3rd Sep 2019, 7:57 AM edit delete reply

She's Alive! Yay!

*takes her hand; helps her up*
Oldarmourer 3rd Sep 2019, 12:47 PM edit delete reply
*pulls out a pen and signs his work*
DLKmusic 3rd Sep 2019, 8:29 PM edit delete reply

all I can say to this entire thread is "BRAVO!!!!!"

Glad you walked out of this post alive, Cent! I was worried there for a minute.
Oldarmourer 3rd Sep 2019, 9:15 PM edit delete reply
Couldn't have done it without a skilled partner and a willing casualty...
A casualty(comic Cent not Cent actual) that now has DNR scribbled on her chest in indelible ink...
I'm getting old, I can only do this so often :)
megados 3rd Sep 2019, 11:49 PM edit delete reply

I'm pretty sure I have no discernable skill.
Oldarmourer 4th Sep 2019, 11:06 PM edit delete reply

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Lurker314 28th Aug 2019, 1:07 AM edit delete reply
Given the extreme preference to eliminate the human instead of eliminating the active defender, I would say that Mr. Shiny has a directive to DESTROY HUMANS. Where have we heard about such things before, hmmm?

Yep, someone got loose, and that is going to complicate a LOT.
Haegan2005 28th Aug 2019, 1:42 AM edit delete reply

Fair point that. Old tech perhaps? That would explain the poor repair.
CptKerion 31st Aug 2019, 2:05 AM edit delete reply
My though is that it might have missed due to very serious incoming fire and damage.
mjkj 28th Aug 2019, 1:42 AM edit delete reply

Yayyy, help has arrived and set Skeeter's priorities right again!

Go, get that shiny...!!!

it hurt our dear Cyana!!!!! Go, get it down!!!

angry mama bear is angry...
Rashala 28th Aug 2019, 3:03 AM edit delete reply

I called it combat protocol enraged momma bear.....they are doing remarkably well compared to the cassian strike team it wasted earlier.
HiFranc 28th Aug 2019, 4:06 AM edit delete reply

It took the team by surprise whereas Skeeter detected it before it could act.

{edit}
Also it knew what it was dealing with when dispatching the team. When fighting Skeeter, Skeeter provided unexpected resistance.


That tells me two things:

1. Its shields use a lot of power (otherwise why would it face this compound with shields reduced) and

2. Those shields take a while to power up as it suffered fatal hits before it could do that.
Oldarmourer 28th Aug 2019, 9:05 AM edit delete reply

3. Shields don't work worth a darn when the shield generator is shot to pieces ;)
Morituri 28th Aug 2019, 7:42 PM edit delete reply
We don't know yet that this is a singular attacker. It may not be the same "goldie-bot" that Ophelia and her team dealt with. Virtually all the scenarios that could easily justify one of these things arriving on the scene (invasion, long-dormant weapon coming online, failed containment ...) could just as easily justify an army of them appearing.

So while it's clearly the same *kind* of thing, it's possible that this particular *instance* of the thing is weaker or less well-maintained or just plain more damaged than the one that Ophelia and her squad fought.
megados 28th Aug 2019, 7:48 PM edit delete reply

We'll find out soon enough if there are more, now that this one's down. ;)
Fairportfan 28th Aug 2019, 3:09 AM edit delete reply

"...and never, ever, piss off the mommy."
DLKmusic 28th Aug 2019, 1:39 PM edit delete reply

If ever there were words to live by, That would be it!
Oldarmourer 28th Aug 2019, 9:10 AM edit delete reply

And a round right in the mouthpiece...where it's weapon seems to be...so much for shooting back :)
Funny thing, analysis of armed engagements show that very, very often an untrained combatant will instinctively aim for their opponent's weapon instead of centre of mass.
Olina hasn't seen the Feeliewhacker shoot so perhaps she's just well versed in the 'Mozambique' drill...
either way, methinks Goldiebot just became spare parts, which is a good place for it. Olina can rebuild it as extra security :)

for when the next three come waltzing over the horizon in a few minutes...
Ebonbolt 1st Sep 2019, 2:51 AM edit delete reply

Didn't you catch that "Goldiebot" was bleeding?
Oldarmourer 1st Sep 2019, 9:20 AM edit delete reply
We've seen androids 'bleed' too...so do some aircraft...
if you've never had hydraulic fluid running down your arms when you're working on one, it's a feeling that can't be described easily ;)
megados 1st Sep 2019, 11:23 AM edit delete reply

I describe it as the being the same as the feeling you get when you pull the pan off an automatic transmission. ;)
Oldarmourer 1st Sep 2019, 8:47 PM edit delete reply
A little more tingly and a gritty feeling, we were always told hydraulics could poison you through skin contact and it did feel odd but being young and bulletproof we scoffed at the warnings and continued on...Skydrol was supposed to be a different colour but this may well have been a variant, substitute or just plain old Milspec hydraulic fluid, who knows ? All I do know is that just about every single person I served with and have been in contact with over the years has had some form of cancer..myself included.
megados 1st Sep 2019, 10:53 PM edit delete reply

Sorry to hear about cancer :(

It is true, that some of those fluids contain carcinogens. I don't know if transmission fluid has, but your description sounds a little like Santotrac 50, something used in variable mechanical drives. It lubricates, but is also a traction fluid, which also has a sticky gritty feeling.
Oldarmourer 2nd Sep 2019, 10:54 AM edit delete reply
Worked on 101's in the 70's, If there wasn't a hydraulic leak in the door bay, it just meant the reservoirs were already empty and when you hooked the hydraulic cart up for functional tests it always leaked when you fastened the lines on...straight down your arms...whether you held rags around the fittings or not ;)

Between various aircraft fluids, chemicals, heavy metal dusts, torpedo fuel and the rumoured depleted uranium blocks used for ballasts, it's a wonder we don't all glow in the dark...my chest x-rays still do, from lead, beryllium, cadmium, aluminum and other assorted dusts still hanging out in there. Lead from sifting range backstops, aluminum from cleaning rocket exhaust out of the tubes with a power drill and wire brush, beryllium from the muzzle bearing on the F18, Cadmium plated everything, etc...

Been over six years since surgery/radiation and everything still seems clear, hope I'm not jinxing it by calling it 'cured', but thanks for the wishes.
Oldarmourer 28th Aug 2019, 9:17 AM edit delete reply

Looks like a ringer just got a huge surge of votes on Topweb and DC has slipped a couple of slots...
voting on update day isn't enough, vote every day...for Cyana's sake...1,000 votes and she can be cured ;)
Eve Z. 28th Aug 2019, 1:08 PM edit delete reply

This centurion isn't the only one out there in the wild, am I right?
DLKmusic 28th Aug 2019, 2:02 PM edit delete reply

That would be my guess, Eve Z, but the Evil Duo have neither confirmed or denied that there is more than one.
Morituri 28th Aug 2019, 2:27 PM edit delete reply
This whatever-it-is seems to have a thing for nailing humans. When it engaged ophelia's company I was noticing it didn't seem to give a damn what faction was who - no distinction to be made, for example, between Nova Roma legionnaires and gutters.


Thing about that? Both of those groups were made up of humans. If that's the only thing goldie-bot cares about, then ... then it's still an idiot for ignoring faction affiliations on a purely tactical basis, as divisions between opposing forces can always be exploited. But at least it's a more comprehensible kind of idiocy in that if you plan to kill them all you know you don't have any allies to worry about.

And I'm suddenly remembering that the one time it did whack an android, on purpose, it identified her as an android and decided she was "sufficiently neutralized" - possibly meaning that if she'd been biological it would have felt compelled to neutralize her some more? Like, down to a fine paste or something?
Oldarmourer 28th Aug 2019, 5:16 PM edit delete reply
The weapon it used pretty much evaporated anything it touched, it fired at the tank/apc because it deemed it a greater threat and a larger target.
Feelie got caught up in the blast and was pretty much disassembled on the spot, the Feeliewhacker probably assumed she was no longer a threat and didn't bother finishing her off because there was no need, the threat was gone.
As for it targeting people first, I don't see that, I see it targeting the closest threat first and moving on once each was dealt with.
It shot the gutters because they were the only threat present and they were...gutters.
It shot the Scorpon Squad humans first because they were closest, Feelie didn't come into the firing arc until after all the humans had been killed, I think if she'd been the first one at the doorway it would have targeted her first.
SKEETER got shot at first because he was the active threat, his hitting Goldybot disrupted it's aim and it missed SKEETER, hitting the ground behind and beside him...unfortunately, Cyana was in that general area and got hit by the impact wave.

I don't see it preferring human targets over androids, I see it dealing with threats as they appear and in the order of perceived danger.

Of course, the Devious Duo may have a completely different set of engagement rules for goldenboy, who knows ?
megados 28th Aug 2019, 7:45 PM edit delete reply

I agree with most of that, @Oldarmourer, and note that it wasn't only targeting moving things: it also hit the comm tower, which speaks to a methodology there. It was making assessments as it went along to a degree. It could minimize possible resistance by disabling the means of summoning backup. To me that implies a thought process beyond just blowing up targets.
Oldarmourer 29th Aug 2019, 8:06 AM edit delete reply

I'd think it was programmed to monitor a wide band of frequencies, listen for transmissions and disable any comm equipment as one of it's priorities and since the tower came into range before SKEETER did, it was a viable target of opportunity.
Unfortunately for Goldiebot, firing on the tower counted as a hostile act which enabled SKEETER's 'Rabid Wombat' protocols and set him to 'weapons free'.
Romfire 28th Aug 2019, 9:42 PM edit delete reply
The shields were taken down by the "Atomic laser" where as the Scorpion group was firing projectile weapons. As pointed out by Damoclus, shields often don't hold up well under differing attack types. In this case energy and kinetic. I would guess once the energy weapon took down the shields, the kinetic weapons were able to damage it. If Skeeter only had projectiles in its arsenal, the ending would probably have been more Scorpion like.
The shear amount of energy probably also made a difference. I would guess that Skeet's "Atomic Laser" was single use or at least had a long recharge cycle.
Romfire 28th Aug 2019, 9:54 PM edit delete reply
I might be wrong. It might have been the same weapons the whole time, or one much more powerful pulse.

Centcomm, if you would be so kind as to let me know I would appreciate it.
Centcomm 28th Aug 2019, 10:54 PM edit delete reply

Roma troops use Plasma weapons. they are energy weapons. the "Atomic laser" Uses nuclear fission to power a lasing tube with hard gamma and a "slug" that has been super heated and it basically explodes at contact.. thats what nuked his shield.

but his lasers are a lot more powerful. the parents are using rail weapons so they are physical projectile.
Oldarmourer 29th Aug 2019, 7:59 AM edit delete reply

One from Column A, two from Column B
A little variety is a good thing
The nice thing is, their 'railguns' are turning some of the kinetic energy of the projectile into plasma energy so it's the best of both.
You can have the fries with the salad ;)
Jeaux 29th Aug 2019, 6:22 PM edit delete reply
I have a fear that Goldie is going to start regenerating as soon as the fire ceases... And the good guys won't be able to regain the upper hand.
megados 29th Aug 2019, 10:11 PM edit delete reply

Well, that would kinda suck. :O
Oldarmourer 30th Aug 2019, 5:31 AM edit delete reply

I have a feeling Goldiebots' repair nanobots are going to need nanobots of their own in that case.
We haven't seen Cyana's father join in the festivities yet...
He's charging the orbital cannon turrets and he'll be out once they've got a firing solution.
They don't call him 'Big Gun Braden' for nothing ;)
Oldarmourer 31st Aug 2019, 12:46 PM edit delete reply
Hopefully once the Feeliewhacker stops twitching, Olina's going to order SKEETER to go and dock with his combat frame and bring the main defences online...PPC turrets, gatling railguns, hellbores and LRM's for everyone :)
Clevername 30th Aug 2019, 3:10 PM edit delete reply
Goldie is down (Yea Skeeter!), lets just hope it has no capture prevention systems! You know.......say something along the lines of a kiloton plus nuke!
Da fat lady ain't sang yet!
Clevername 30th Aug 2019, 3:24 PM edit delete reply
Cant append or delete my prior post.... ah well..... Just noticed the cat critter that was inside the suit!
megados 30th Aug 2019, 5:56 PM edit delete reply

If you register a Comic Fury account, (It's easy, and it's free!), then you can edit or delete your posts, and you can also subscribe to the comic! :D
clevername 31st Aug 2019, 3:08 AM edit delete reply
Yeah.... Been there... done that... Didn't work...
I suspect because my first post was done without logging in. even after I created my account, it says I'm not that I'm not that same person.

No worries...
megados 31st Aug 2019, 7:51 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, posts that you make before your account, or without logging in can't be edited. Even with an account, if you make a post w/o logging in, you can't edit it.

If you log in, and make a post, you can edit it when you're logged in. If you're not logged in, or not registered, it's in a form of 'guest', so you can't edit those.
robnot 31st Aug 2019, 11:51 AM edit delete reply
"free an easy" ok.. yes on the "free" but not so much on "easy"...
every time i log.. i use old password (pw),, says account/user not valid,, ask for new (pw), goto mail,, get temp (pw), change (pw), says can't use old (pw),, ((huh?)),, get new (pw),, but soon as i log, have to do all over again... so i just guest it....
clevername 31st Aug 2019, 3:12 AM edit delete reply
Does NO ONE see that Goldie ISN'T a bot? It is a SUIT and there is a Cat thingy, critter, and now, carcass inside it?

I was wondering why hits looked like blood......
Ryu Santos 31st Aug 2019, 5:13 AM edit delete reply

Hate to burst your bubble, but take a closer look. The"cat" is an illusion created by the random mix of background, mid-range, and foreground fx. Your mind is playing tricks on you.
Centcomm 31st Aug 2019, 10:59 AM edit delete reply

and bits of brain matter splattering ..
Ryu Santos 31st Aug 2019, 12:50 PM edit delete reply

Brrrrraaaaiiiinnnnsssssss.
Oldarmourer 31st Aug 2019, 12:43 PM edit delete reply
I want to believe, I really do, but I can't quite see it, it's just too blurred for me. On the other hand...free plot twist, ladies ;)
clevername 31st Aug 2019, 3:03 PM edit delete reply
Seeing that has Cent has clarified that I'm mistaken, I bow humbly to my superiors.

The illusion was pretty convincing to me thou! Visually speaking I see a feline head, one right ear, two eyes, a nose with two nostrils and a frowning mouth....
And of course the blood issue itself...

Ah well, thought I had somehow spotted something obvious to my old eyes...
Sigh.....
Oldarmourer 31st Aug 2019, 8:06 PM edit delete reply
Cent didn't specifically say you were mistaken ;)
Plot twists have come from far less and not acknowledging when someone gets something right ahead of the reveal is pretty much standard around here...
It might be, I'd even go as far as saying those hands look sort of felinish with claws, if I hadn't seen them in an earlier page where they seem to be seperate digits with joints between them and the hand that a finger couldn't fit into.
clevername 31st Aug 2019, 8:38 PM edit delete reply
I guess there is truth to your words. Thanks
Cent did indicate "brain matter".

If I think of the image and those words, then we are still dealing with a suit, or at minimum, a cyborg. Not a robot.

Crap...Gotta wait it out, but Yea Skeeter!
megados 31st Aug 2019, 8:58 PM edit delete reply

I have speculated for a while now that it's at least got some organic bits. I don't know if it's a cyborg, or someone in a power armor suit or something. It's speech (not counting the damage induced stutter) seems to be either a low functioning, or malfunctioning organic brain, at least. It's a being or a construct, I think. It doesn't seem purely mechanical. Hard to say, really.
Oldarmourer 31st Aug 2019, 9:43 PM edit delete reply
TeeDee, Dolly and Ada aren't completely human either..well, Dolly's as close as you can get ;)
And we've seen combat androids that didn't take the 'human appearance' package so there's the possibility that Goldiebot is ..
A) a robot
B) an adroid in armour
C) a robot in armour
D) a class of mech we haven't seen yet
E) something to make us ask questions and secondguess ourselves

If it's 'E' it's working...
clevername 31st Aug 2019, 11:47 PM edit delete reply
Sadly, I may show my ignorance to things Cent has said throughout the Datachasers tale, because I read so little comments, but I'll have to disagree with A - D.

By rough definition, a robot is purely electro-mechanical, controlled by an onboard, or external processor. Example Wall-E, ASIMO, Robonaut.

An android (a definition more in common SciFi) is a robot, designed to mimic its creators and function within the same environment. It's more advanced processor is onboard and capable of altering its program parameters due to advance sensory feedback (tactile smell, taste, perceptions, ect).
Example: Terminator, Ava, from Ex Machina, TeeDee and Dolly.

Cyborgs are organic beings that have electro-mechanical devices attached to their bodies that can be controlled by their organic brain. Example Robocop, Alita, Luke Skywalker.

The variation presented in Datachasers is that the android design has achieved AI. But under the aforementioned definitions is still an android.

Goldie has organics, so it can only be cyborg, or a suited organic being.

(or something completely different!)
Oldarmourer 1st Sep 2019, 9:24 AM edit delete reply
what some see as 'blood' could be hydraulic fluid...
or maybe the fluid in androids that acts like blood, some is red some is blue (that we've seen so far)
I'm not sure if our Feeliewhacker has organic bits but it might, could go either way at this point.
Oldarmourer 4th Sep 2019, 11:47 AM edit delete reply
Maybe you should go look at Patreon...your postulations may be answered there :)
Not confirming or denying anything until it comes up in the story, they put in spoilers ahead of time.
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