Comic 1118 - Merry Christmas!

25th Dec 2014, 8:23 PM
Merry Christmas!
Average Rating: 5 (17 votes)

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Tokyo Rose 25th Dec 2014, 8:24 PM edit delete
Tokyo Rose
Bit late, and awful, but hey, I'm no Cent when it comes to DAZ :)
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Stormwind13 25th Dec 2014, 8:38 PM edit delete reply

Run Frosty, Run!

And a Merry Christmas to you, too!
cattservant 25th Dec 2014, 9:25 PM edit delete reply

Soon be Frosty the Noman!
Dragonrider 25th Dec 2014, 10:30 PM edit delete reply

That action would be normal for Douchebag.

Belated Blessed Solstace to all, and Happy Holidays also.
Haegan2005 25th Dec 2014, 11:46 PM edit delete reply

I saw that and immediately thought "Rose?"

Seems I was right! Merry Christmas to all everyone!
CptKerion 26th Dec 2014, 1:52 AM edit delete reply
It really captures the dementedness well.
*in a very small voice*
don't hurt me
Stormwind13 26th Dec 2014, 8:20 AM edit delete reply


What we need is for CentComm to put in one, Frosty appearing... about the size of Mount Everest... Cut back to Rose... "Damn, I'll need a bigger hair dryer." :-D

In a booming voice Frosty, "I mean - I can make words. I can move... I can juggle... I can sweep... and I can count to ten. One, two, three, four, five, nine, six, eight... Well, I can count to five." Picks up Rose (and about a football stadium full of snow), makes a snowball and starts juggling her. }:-D~>

And a Merry Christmas was had by all!
CptKerion 26th Dec 2014, 12:45 PM edit delete reply
Why is my first thought for that situation "Thermobaric"?
Stormwind13 26th Dec 2014, 3:03 PM edit delete reply

Maybe because you aren't in the Christmas spirit, CptK? :-D

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow (down on Tokyo Rose). :-D
Hydrargyrum 26th Dec 2014, 6:02 PM edit delete reply

Yeah, given how bloodthirsty comments have been lately I suppose this might be a good time to note snowpeople probably don't have much blood.

Fuel air explosives? Really? CptK what did Frosty ever do to you? My therapist is a nice guy if you want to talk to him.

Unlike Sheela, it's not my style t post cute videos. But 'ere, in the interests of the Christmas spirit and a little raising awareness of how nasty weapons systems are let me quote from Syria as a recent example. For perspective, imagine this with people you know and love who aren't in the line of duty:

"Their body parts were scattered all over the place. They were just shreds, not full bodies, just pieces: the hand one place, the other body parts somewhere else. One head was severed from the body. One of them had the intestines coming out. Their books and notebooks were all over the place."

I bring this up not as some kind of let's all live happily ever after human rights campaigner but as someone who's spent a not inconsiderable portion of their working life employed by armed forces to look at weapons platform insertion and survivability in relation to use of other weapons. Culture and the media routinely sensationalize and trivialize violence and Datachasers much has been in a life is cheap mode lately, all of which tend to obscure what matters. But one of the main reasons I support this comic is its willingness take a closer look at kinds of nightmare fuel which are usually glossed over. Consider paying that forward, y'all.
Sheela 28th Dec 2014, 12:17 AM edit delete reply

Well, in a wasteland kind of situation, life is often handled as "cheap" because competition is so fierce, and you cannot just laze about.

And to be fair, the comic itself hasn't handled life as cheap, though some of the commenteers have certainly been rather bloodthirsty. Which isn't a bad thing, as it means they care about what happens in the comic, and to Connie. :)

As for Mister Redshirt, well, I'm sure he has a lifetime of Karma to catch up on.

Meanwhile, your cat still loves you, and you should love it back!
DLKmusic 28th Dec 2014, 9:42 PM edit delete reply

I kinda have to agree with Sheela here. Although some characters, such as Decimus to consider life cheap (as befits any villain), the bulk of the characters in this story, including the Cassians, consider life precious, and something not to be squandered.

I agree that our pop culture is doing it's very best to desensitize us to the Horrors of war and the Reality of Bloodshed, though. And for those of us who do understand the horror, I would like to thank you for your sacrifices for me, and for bringing up an important issue.
Sheela 29th Dec 2014, 4:47 AM edit delete reply

This seems particularly true of the american hollywood culture.
I'm guessing it's a sideeffect of having the worlds biggest army.

Also, there's a real threat of the world having a major energy crisis once oil runs out, which could spawns a series of really serious wars.

By then, you'd want a somewhat bloodthirsty army to survive.
velvetsanity 29th Dec 2014, 10:45 AM edit delete reply

It'd be quite a bit more serious than that, Sheela. Society would collapse entirely. No oil means no fuel means no trucks delivering food to stores, along with all the other problems...
Sheela 29th Dec 2014, 4:27 PM edit delete reply

Well, not quite that bad, we have been able to turn coal into oil during WWII, but it's very expensive, so it wouldn't collapse entirely - But it would still be worth it to have access to regular oil - Which is where the conflict would start.
velvetsanity 29th Dec 2014, 5:13 PM edit delete reply

I doubt it'd be enough, Sheela. Grocery stores only have enough in stock for the daily number of customers they regularly get for 3 days supply...
Sheela 29th Dec 2014, 7:31 PM edit delete reply

It would be a gradual change.

Still, there would be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
CptKerion 30th Dec 2014, 2:35 PM edit delete reply
It would be more of a switch to alternate fuel sources which is already well under way.
It's not going to be oil that sparks the next big war.
It's going to be water.
Sheela 30th Dec 2014, 10:02 PM edit delete reply

Nah, even with alternates being develope, pumping oil up out of the ground is really, really cheap .. so they will do wars over it. Heck, they already have.

And water is easy, I don't think we'll fight over that ... at least not between nations.
CptKerion 1st Jan 2015, 11:35 AM edit delete reply
Oh there will be oil conflicts, but in comparison to the wars of the past they won't mean much.
But you look at a lot of the farmland in the world, it relies on aquifers. Being a Kansan I hear all about this since all of western Kansas agriculture relies on the Ogallala Aquifer. Problem is, it's being used faster than it's refilling.
Same story for a lot of places all over the world.

with rising capacities for renewable fuels and non-petroleum based plastics and lubricants the need for oil will decline, especially once these materials become easy to mass produce. As oil prices rise (given the finite nature of it, they inevitably will) and the costs of these alternate sources decline oil will slowly be phased out.

Water, however, cannot be phased out. All life relies on it. With aquifers running dry, coastal wells getting swamped with sea water, increases in acid rain (beyond Europe and the Americas mostly), and many inland sources becoming polluted it will become abundantly clear how finite it is.
While it is far more renewable than fossil fuels it is also more important.
Sheela 2nd Jan 2015, 7:14 AM edit delete reply

We have developed some pretty redicilous water scavenging technology here in Denmark, you'll be surprised how much water can be spared with a surprising minimum of effort.

That said, I don't see a lot of actual work on water works in most of the world - Which I find rather weird.

According to this map, Americans use more than ten times as much water than Danes do ?
That's a HUGE amount, and it's not exactly as if Danes hold back that much.
I'm not even sure how to use ten times more water a day ... I guess I could flush the toilet everytime I walk past it ?
CptKerion 3rd Jan 2015, 3:54 PM edit delete reply
Let's see, being an American I have an idea of a few sources.
1. lawn/garden watering
2. extremely long showers
3. lack of low flush toilets
4. half/full flush toilets aren't really a thing
5. high flow shower heads
6. severe lack of reclamation devices
DLKmusic 26th Dec 2014, 2:13 AM edit delete reply

I would give you a 15 yard penalty for Excessive Evil on this one Rose, but I'm too busy laughing!
Sheela 27th Dec 2014, 11:47 PM edit delete reply

Wait, wait .. you think Rose ever does anything without going overboard ?

I mean, if someone asked her to Jump the Shark, she'd go "well that's kind of boring", and then she'd put on her velvet suit, her scuba gear, and then she'd run the shark down on her BMX bike !

'cause that's how it's done!
Stormwind13 28th Dec 2014, 7:47 AM edit delete reply

No, no Sheela. Rose wouldn't jump the shark... she'd send an AGENT to do it for her. Probably her equivilent of this guy. And that shark would be TOAST. :-D
Sheela 28th Dec 2014, 9:06 AM edit delete reply

OooOhh .. and THEN she'd buy the shark a ticket for a train ride to hell ?
(On a sidenote : I can't believe google found me a match on 'train to hell', sometimes the internet is very very weird place to be)
(heck, it even sounds like it's moaning as it creamates it's passengers)
(Yes, I am sure it burns souls for fuel, because it is an evil, EVIL train)
DLKmusic 28th Dec 2014, 9:33 PM edit delete reply

Actually, Sheela, If someone told Rose to Jump the shark, I agree, she would think it kinda boring... so she would chain the poor shark to a motorcycle and force it to jump HER....

THAT's the Rose we all know and love!
Sheela 29th Dec 2014, 4:49 AM edit delete reply

I have to admit, I mostly did that post so I could link to the video of that train, because that thing was EEEvil, and I thought Rose and the rest of you guys would enjoy it. :)
KarToon12 26th Dec 2014, 7:25 AM edit delete reply

A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you! :D
KarToon12 26th Dec 2014, 7:25 AM edit delete reply

A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you! :D
Matt Knab 26th Dec 2014, 7:41 AM edit delete reply

Happy holidays!
FJames56 26th Dec 2014, 7:55 AM edit delete reply
A reference to Walter Hill's 1979 movie the Warriors?
CptKerion 26th Dec 2014, 12:45 PM edit delete reply
Reference to Frosty the Snowman
Tokyo Rose 27th Dec 2014, 6:16 AM edit delete reply

Sheela 27th Dec 2014, 12:24 PM edit delete reply

And here I thought it was a reference to the hair dryer in her royal highnesses matched luggage !
velvetsanity 28th Dec 2014, 8:19 AM edit delete reply

Funny. She doesn't *look* Druish.
Sheela 29th Dec 2014, 4:50 AM edit delete reply

He he.
Laszlo 30th Dec 2014, 6:34 AM edit delete reply
That is exactly what I was thinking. Every time I read the words, I hear that guy in the movie saying them. All that is missing is the clinking noise.
SquallLion 26th Dec 2014, 1:39 PM edit delete reply

Merry Christmas
Sheela 26th Dec 2014, 4:56 PM edit delete reply

And Rose hits the uncanney valley like a rockslide hits virgin snow!

Hard, deep and unrelentlessly!
jamie59 26th Dec 2014, 5:33 PM edit delete reply

Evil little Rose. Evil!
Rashala 26th Dec 2014, 8:21 PM edit delete reply

a Hair dryer....Please Rose....A little originality

Hair Crimpers are mush mopre evil.
plymayer 27th Dec 2014, 12:02 AM edit delete reply

Merry Christmas!
Rms2000 28th Dec 2014, 10:04 AM edit delete reply

i'm sure the reason I feel left out is that I missed a reference of some sort. Who is this character and why does her expression remind me so disturbingly of Frozen?

Also, Merry Christmas. Or Happy Holiday Season, for those who choose to decline to recognize the 25th as a holiday.
Tokyo Rose 28th Dec 2014, 9:41 PM edit delete reply

That's one of Tokyo Rose's dolls. I can't speak for the Frozen expression though :D
Sheela 29th Dec 2014, 5:02 AM edit delete reply

Oh, spoiler : Rose has Dolls, she *is* an AIS ! :)
rfaramir 29th Dec 2014, 11:23 AM edit delete reply
Or she is what AISes are modeled after. She's something better.

Or they mimicked that one facet of her, since it works so well. She's possibly too different, unique, and un-studied, a one-off by a prodigy. What little they know of her was that she uses dolls, so they reused the idea. They probably implement it differently from how she does it, too.
velvetsanity 29th Dec 2014, 12:31 PM edit delete reply

There's also the possibility of Surrogates...well, until you consider she was around back in Galina Kotko's time....
Rashala 29th Dec 2014, 2:28 PM edit delete reply

Or Rose has AIs who pretend to Be her appearance wise.. like decoys
Tokyo Rose 29th Dec 2014, 4:32 PM edit delete reply

Or one or more AIs created Rose, who in turn has AIs that pretend to be her, and other AIs mimic her as well to cover their own tracks, and then everything gets really confusing and the end result is that she gets everybody's friggin' junk mail and phone calls, explaining her cantankerous attitude?
velvetsanity 31st Dec 2014, 11:30 AM edit delete reply

Oh come on, guys, we all know Rose spontaneously created herself in a fit of snark. And I'm not talking about the whole meta issue of Rose the character being the avatar of Rose the writer of the comic. :D
Sheela 29th Dec 2014, 4:32 PM edit delete reply

Heh, I once thought up a story about how the first android massproduction went bad, and they ended up with hordes of Feral Roses that roamed the plains of Siberia, attacking anyone and everything that came near them, and the Tokyo Rose was the only "sane" one of them, and she had made a promise to come up with a way to make the others sane too, hence her interest in Galina and other sparked androids.

I never got around to turn it into a proper little side story, since it's too complex to be an anecdote but not enough punch for a full fledged story - Plus, it's really not my character.

Edit :
Dammit Rose, Y U post at the same time as I do ?
Now my post is even more chaotic!

Bad Rose, BAD Rose !
No cookie for you!
Tokyo Rose 29th Dec 2014, 4:35 PM edit delete reply

And that's why Russians get scared at the mention of "feral roses"--they aren't thinking about the carnivorous vegetation, they're thinking about the rampaging tide of extremely sarcastic deathbots. YOU KNOW TOO MUCH. ;D
Sheela 29th Dec 2014, 4:37 PM edit delete reply

LOL - And yet I know so little!

Is that why the russians make huge offroading vehicles with angry drivebrains that run down any humanoids in sight ?

Wait, waiiiit a second !!
Does this mean that hordes of Feral Rose sarcastic deathbots are now canon to the story ?

Pics, or it didn't happen!
Stormwind13 29th Dec 2014, 7:52 PM edit delete reply

I'm with your rfaramir. Rose is a Force of NATURE!!! She isn't something anyone (or anything) else can be compared to.
Sheela 29th Dec 2014, 8:00 PM edit delete reply

I doubt nature has anything to do with the creation of Tokyo Rose.
Heck, I even doubt nature could be perverted enough to pull that off.
Besides, Rose would probably enjoy being something .. else.
Something not quite natural.
Stormwind13 30th Dec 2014, 11:19 AM edit delete reply

Maybe Sheela. Or maybe she is the MOST natural, and humanity is the perverted ones. :-D

Tokyo Rose told Kyle, "I have lost more than you could even begin to imagine, boy." (If Looks could kill - 9 April 2008). So what if she was an angel that has fallen. That would explain her apparent 'immortality'. It would also explain why she is trying to do good deeds, so she could get back into heaven. So Tokyo would be the closer to natural (to the creator) than humanity is even. :-D

Now, I want to see Tokyo Rose with angel wings... And probably a big honking sword, with a fiery aura. An avenging angel, because I can't see her playing a harp. :-D
Sheela 30th Dec 2014, 10:04 PM edit delete reply

Tokyo Rose .. as an angel ?

.. why not a pit-fiend ?
Stormwind13 31st Dec 2014, 8:49 AM edit delete reply

Rose is too pretty to be a pit-fiend, Sheela. Those are some UGLY suckers. :-D Plus they are physically HUGE, which is something that Rose isn't. :-)
CptKerion 1st Jan 2015, 2:33 PM edit delete reply
In relation to getting everyone's junk mail... her address is 123 easy street isn't it?
xpacetrue 31st Dec 2014, 3:42 PM edit delete reply

Is this supposed to be Maddie Zurich from Shinedo? ( See the bottom panel of this page. )

Re: The "uncanny valley" observation: The character on this page looks fine. It's just that the lighting done on the character is poor and does not match the background.

" Oh, spoiler : Rose has Dolls, she *is* an AIS ! "

See the Cast page: Unless you have inside info, we don't actually know that she's an A.I.S. All we have are hunches.

rfaramir wrote:
"...What little they know of her was that she uses dolls..."

velvetsanity wrote:
"There's also the possibility of Surrogates...well, until you consider she was around back in Galina Kotko's time...."

The Surrogates idea is interesting. But I somehow doubt that even in Datachaser's time they have such, let alone hundreds of years ago in Luna Star.

Yeah, Rose's age (and superhuman skill with programming, hacking, and AI's) and use of dolls practically screams she has to be an AI of some sort.

Rose wrote:
" Or one or more AIs created Rose..."

We know that several AIS (including Cent) got together to create Aeneas. But the only AIS that was mentioned in Luna Star's time was 3C or CentComm and back then she wasn't much like the Cent we know. Well, it was implied that Deep Blue must be at least as old.

The Cast page says she was the progenitor of the Shinedo A.I.S. system. (In a side story we were introduced to the three AI's that make up the Shinedo A.I.S.) And the theory of her having evolved from the Infonet (Skynet-style) is worth considering.

We do know that Maddie Zurich and Jasper Stone consider Tokyo Rose their boss and are on familiar enough terms to pull practical jokes on her.

And on this page Rose tells Kyle that she built most of her friends.

rfaramir wrote:
"Or she is what AISes are modeled after."

Now this is an interesting idea. I like it!

My best guesses is that Rose is either one of the first truly sapient AI in history (with Deep Blue being another) or that she was the result of a project to copy a human mind into digital form. [Have you seen the film Transcendence (2014)?]

PS: I noticed that the Cast page has been updated with remade images for several characters. I'm not sure yet if I like the new looks. But Logrin, Dusty, and Kyle look VERY different! (I couldn't recognize Logrin.)

Also, the tidbit about Sarah Demark being an empath and training with Epiphytes was interesting. Will this be shown in a flashback or side story?
Centcomm 31st Dec 2014, 4:19 PM edit delete reply

there may or may not be a side story on Sarah it really all depends on my schedule :D besides until some reason comes up her life is about as exciting as any other EMS worker and her involvement with the story is already going to be shown.. :D

Sorry some of the cast look different i never liked Logrins original figure the one ive created now fits better with my vision of the character he was always meant to be older :D im also trying to diversify the looks a bit :D

On a side note Roses back ground WILL be resolved before this arc is finished so stay tuned !
Sheela 31st Dec 2014, 7:51 PM edit delete reply

Roaming hordes of Feral Roses = canon ?

Oh, and as for Tokyo Rose (which is whom we are looking at, not Maddie) being in the uncanney valley. I have no doubt that was intentional.

Those big non-human eyes are a dead giveaway.
Rashala 1st Jan 2015, 3:20 PM edit delete reply

Sheela. SCroll back to where the Nova roma Check point guard said he was in love with dolly...and mentioned Roses.
Tookye3345 11th Nov 2015, 3:40 PM edit delete reply
"Waaarriioorrrss. Come out and playyieeyaayyy!" Love it.

Iarei 21st Jul 2016, 3:17 PM edit delete reply
AIs should be careful about tormenting Frosty. They might have a *puts on sunglasses* Snow Crash.
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