Comic 1146 - The Wine..

3rd Mar 2015, 9:00 PM
The Wine..
Average Rating: 5 (21 votes)

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Centcomm 5th Mar 2015, 8:53 AM edit delete
By the way folks .. Luna Star DID update.. just comic fury is being silly.
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Haegan2005 3rd Mar 2015, 9:02 PM edit delete reply

Talk about interesting dinner conversation. So glad I am not at that table.
Centcomm 3rd Mar 2015, 10:58 PM edit delete reply

I know right?
anonymous coward 4th Mar 2015, 1:22 PM edit delete reply
The table talking about New Troy nanny-taxation or the table talking about blood and guts? I think Setorius' table probably has the better conversation, but I can well sympathize with finding both a little... grim.
Dragonrider 3rd Mar 2015, 9:08 PM edit delete reply

Watch the wine Lynn, also isn't it about time for her boyfriend to make an appearance?
Centcomm 3rd Mar 2015, 10:58 PM edit delete reply

well he does work for the kitchen .. he might show up :D
cattservant 3rd Mar 2015, 9:20 PM edit delete reply

Everyone is so polite and civilized.
velvetsanity 3rd Mar 2015, 9:24 PM edit delete reply

Only because drekhead hasn't opened his pie hole yet :P
Hornet 4th Mar 2015, 6:18 AM edit delete reply
Agreed, May the good doctor continue to filibuster til the dinner is over.
Centcomm 3rd Mar 2015, 10:59 PM edit delete reply

I know isnt it insane :D
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 4:11 PM edit delete reply

Y'know, it's funny .. but even when the discussion goes south, i have trouble imagining Setorius using crass language, though he probably knows a lot.
I suspect that even when things go quite badly wrong, he will be all polite and civilized, and yet somehow manage to creep everyone out.
Not to mention scare every cassion into hiding in a five mile radius.
A threat from Setorius, no matter how civilized, would be something to be extremely worried about, I'm sure.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 5:06 PM edit delete reply

oh so very much.. to be "censored" by the church can have devastating consequences.. like ZERO medical care. ever.
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 6:34 PM edit delete reply

For some reason, I like to think that about the only thing that can really scare a Cassian, is old man Setorius himself.

Dunno why, really, it just seems really funny to me. XD
Centcomm 5th Mar 2015, 12:14 AM edit delete reply

he it sounds funny to me too :D
Thomas 3rd Mar 2015, 9:33 PM edit delete reply
Cent those are awfully tall pours of wine, just saying.
Centcomm 3rd Mar 2015, 10:59 PM edit delete reply

Im not actually showing the pours.. just the moments before .. :D
Thomas 4th Mar 2015, 9:14 AM edit delete reply
Ah sorry I guess I should have been clearer. I meant those glasses of wine are really, really, full in the first panel. So much so that it looks weird to me. Normally wine doesn't really get filled all the way to the top like that. At least in my experience.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:36 AM edit delete reply

Ah - well I dont drink wine that much and most folks here pretty much treat wine as a standard beverage.
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 3:41 PM edit delete reply

It is true, you usually only fill a wine glass about halfway, so it is easier to drink out of, and less likely to spill wine on the table.

After all, people tend to get drunk after a while.
CptKerion 5th Mar 2015, 12:03 AM edit delete reply
I actually have some cool facts on this, my brother-in-law is a sommelier so I hear a lot about it.
The reason the wine glass is usually only half full, or in fact, far less, is because it allows the aroma (bouquet)to properly coalesce. With wine, the smell and the feel are just about as important, actually more so, than flavor.
The partial glass also allows for all the other testing components (such as the swirling, the smelling, etc.) to go on unimpeded.

Now, mind you, cultures like the Romans and the Greeks ages ago drank a lot more wine because, well, it didn't give you cholera. They would more often go for a full glass.
This may be a cultural 'revival' *gag* thing.
Centcomm 5th Mar 2015, 12:13 AM edit delete reply

Yeah ! Ill go with that! :D
MST3KFan 3rd Mar 2015, 9:42 PM edit delete reply

If real wine can cost that much, I hate to think how much some other real drinks or food might cost. O_o
Centcomm 3rd Mar 2015, 10:59 PM edit delete reply

lets just say that if its bad for you New Troy taxes it.
mjkj 4th Mar 2015, 12:06 AM edit delete reply

So, there is no mcdonalds in new troy?
Highlander55 4th Mar 2015, 5:28 AM edit delete reply
I wonder if New Rome has Little Caesars?
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:36 AM edit delete reply

Sure :D
Thomas 4th Mar 2015, 9:17 AM edit delete reply
No, no there is but a Big Mac costs 10,000 creds, and don't even get me started on mcnuggets. A large soda costs 20,000. Therefore only the uber rich partake of mickey D's as a status symbol.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:37 AM edit delete reply

They have "food squares" in New troy .. they are cheap and nutritious .. and come in a wide verity of festive colors.. that may or may not have anything to do with the food they are meant to be..
Kitty 4th Mar 2015, 2:59 PM edit delete reply
Cue CMOT Dibbler: "Sausage inna bun.... git yer sausage inna bun!"
Guest 5th Mar 2015, 11:56 PM edit delete reply
I like my purple food cubes that taste like what I assume steak to taste like.
Hornet 4th Mar 2015, 6:16 AM edit delete reply
Hell, being alive is bad for you.
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 3:43 PM edit delete reply

Curiously, Sausages aren't actually that bad for you, depending on the type of sausage, ofcoruse.

Heroin on the other hand ... probably quite expensive!
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 5:04 PM edit delete reply

Just dont ask what the sausages are made from.. seriously . dont.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 6:44 PM edit delete reply

I loved that scene :D
velvetsanity 3rd Mar 2015, 9:43 PM edit delete reply

So it seems Setorius does legitimate work as a doctor as well as being a mad scientist. Fascinating. image
Centcomm 3rd Mar 2015, 11:00 PM edit delete reply

Yep he does indeed .. hes not your typical mad scientist :D
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 3:44 PM edit delete reply

Hrm ..this actually makes him *less* creepy.

Ah well, he is meant to be a sort of good guy, right ?
Tokyo Rose 4th Mar 2015, 4:53 PM edit delete reply

Well, he's the head of the Church of Genetic Purity, a/k/a the medical establishment. Of course he's a doctor. :D
CptKerion 5th Mar 2015, 12:08 AM edit delete reply
I'm pretty sure he's more of a Lawful Neutral with advancement of man inclinations.
Centcomm 5th Mar 2015, 12:13 AM edit delete reply

That sounds about right :D
ProfEtheric 3rd Mar 2015, 9:57 PM edit delete reply

I really like Setorius, Of course, the fact that he looks a bit like Grant Morrison (who is my hero) probably helps. Also, I have a thing for mad scientists.
Centcomm 3rd Mar 2015, 11:02 PM edit delete reply

Oh geez.. he does ! - That was unintended :D but it works! Actually him and Dr. Deacon might get along famously .. although Setorious works in Bio tech.. and not normally in hard tech .. He did after all make working Cat girls! He cant be ALL bad :D
ProfEtheric 3rd Mar 2015, 11:39 PM edit delete reply

The fact that he works in bio would make Deacon get along with him even better (Deacon doesn't get along as well with people who share his disciplines). They could get up to ALL KINDS of mischief... er... I mean SCIENCE!
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:38 AM edit delete reply

hehe I can only think of Doctor Silver and Doc Decon getting into a argument .. it might get explosive.
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 3:46 PM edit delete reply

Ah, but imagine the thing that Setorius, Dr Silver and Calliope Taylor could pull off if politics and their ego's didn't stop them from working together ?
Tokyo Rose 4th Mar 2015, 4:54 PM edit delete reply

Dr. Silver and Calli work on androids, Setorius is mostly meatware and some prosthetic work. Not a lot of cross-training there. :D
Lukkai 4th Mar 2015, 6:27 PM edit delete reply
*throws arms*


Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 6:36 PM edit delete reply

Not a lot of crossover, you say ?

*cough* Dolly v2.0! *cough*
Skweeee 3rd Mar 2015, 11:23 PM edit delete reply

Okay.. around my dinner table we talk about movies and stuff. I hate bringing work home!
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:39 AM edit delete reply

Heheh - that would be fun.. :D I think Setorius is always working ..
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 3:48 PM edit delete reply

Setorius probably watches documentaries and surgery security cameras.

Maybe he has a secret fascination of 20th & 21st century comedies ?
Like, he could be a Cheech & Chong fan, but NOONE would know about that. XD
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 5:03 PM edit delete reply

He actually does keep tabs on his staff and people he thinks have "promise"
DLKmusic 3rd Mar 2015, 11:33 PM edit delete reply

Setorius is actually a surprise! I'm starting to like him. Of course, that other shoe is gonna drop any minute, and he will unleash his next abomination, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it, lol.

And as far as Petronilla goes, slave or free, she's awesome! I know waiters at 5 star restaurants that don't keep tabs of what their regulars like as well as she does! Can we keep her? please please, pretty please?
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:40 AM edit delete reply

LOL Petronilla has a fan! LOL ! - Shes very happy :D lets see if she even survives :D
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 3:51 PM edit delete reply

Oh she survives.
Setorius will make sure of that, if nothing else then for the challenge. :)

And maybe she'll be able to benchpress 5 tonnes after he's done with her.
Tokyo Rose 4th Mar 2015, 5:07 PM edit delete reply

Petronilla is on the staff for the upper echelons of the Black Palace's inhabitants. It's not terribly hard to remember people's preferences when you only serve about two dozen people directly. And Julia's always very nice to the slaves, so they tend to like her and remember her more.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 5:12 PM edit delete reply

And most all of them that have been there five or more years know Julia very well. She used to be among the ranks. as Decks personal punching bag.

Before Setorius pulled her for Church duty.
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 6:38 PM edit delete reply

Oh ?

He was the reason she got out of that ?
Dang, he keeps showing his good sides off, don't he ?
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 6:42 PM edit delete reply

Yep he was :D
xpacetrue 3rd Mar 2015, 11:43 PM edit delete reply

Alcohol, tobacco, and salt are heavily taxed in New Troy. But, is that so shocking? This is merely today's excise taxes and tariffs taken to an extreme.

The average person does not buy tobacco products, so they don't notice the spikes in prices. But, there is a trend among legislators, particularly since the recession, to keep piling on more excise taxes. It meets with much less opposition than raising taxes across the board.

Have sin taxes created a healthier society? Should it be used to regulate our diet and lifestyle? These days we're seeing lots of obesity, diabetes, and addictions to sweets, junk food, and pop. What's next, a tax on soda pop? Well... It sounds like they're trying to do just that.

At least in some countries they spend it wisely. In Sweden the gambling tax is to treat those with gambling problems. And there is talk of using excise to support healthcare. But today? It goes into the general fund to balance the budget. And with an economy where cities and counties can go bankrupt, who can blame them for raising excise taxes yet again?
mjkj 4th Mar 2015, 12:09 AM edit delete reply

So, do they also tax oil and grease?

(In new troy I mean...)
Thomas 4th Mar 2015, 9:27 AM edit delete reply
Here in NYC our former mayor tried to make large sodas (32oz and above)illegal. The people thought that was stupid and told him enough was enough. This was after we let him ban smoking in public parks. That's right there are places in NYC you can't smoke OUTSIDE. Don't get me wrong I'm very anti-smoking I don't think anyone should do it However banning people from smoking outside is ridiculous in my opinion.
Kitty 4th Mar 2015, 3:01 PM edit delete reply
You probably have never had to stand at a bus stop next to a bunch of nicotine addicts puffing away. It's especially fun when it's cold or raining and they cram themselves into a bus shelter full of people and proceed to light up :(
xpacetrue 4th Mar 2015, 11:43 PM edit delete reply

I don't smoke. But I have family who does. And I've an idea how hard it is for some to quit. Even with the help of nicotine patches: Someone has to want to quit, or it just won't happen. I've seen failed attempts.

Despite the costs, there's still plenty of alcohol and tobacco use - even among the destitute. Some will even sell their food stamps for it. Remember the Boston Tea Party? At least tea could be considered a luxury. But for someone with a nicotine addiction it's not that simple.

Has the War on Drugs eliminated street drugs? Has the cost made them go away? What about the growing abuse of prescription painkillers? If one outlet for abuse is prohibited, people find another. If cost is the barrier, some might resort to cheaper stuff - like glue or paint.

Perhaps exise taxes are discouraging sales. However, it shifts the cost of living for those who can barely afford to buy food and pay rent. People may go hungry. But, hey, as long as city officials can balance their budget without having to cut expenses or raise property or sales taxes...

On the other hand: If it became so expensive that only the wealthy could afford it, that might actually work (as opposed to outright Prohibition). I don't really like it, but New Troy's solution might be viable.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:42 AM edit delete reply

Most of the taxes in New Troy go to providing medical care ( Basic care is pretty much free ) and for maintaining the city.
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 3:55 PM edit delete reply

We used to have Soda Pop taxes here in Denmark, and frankly, I was a bit disappointed when it was removed.

We have universal healthcare, why not fund it by taxing the stuff that is most likely to send people into the hospital?
Makes sense to me.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 5:03 PM edit delete reply

CptKerion 5th Mar 2015, 12:22 AM edit delete reply
They keys are to control smuggling and to make it so expensive only the extremely wealthy can afford it.
Controlling smuggling is the hard part, trick is to cut out the lower cost ones. Make it so only the high brow professionals can pull it off.
See: Mr. Black.
Rashala 3rd Mar 2015, 11:59 PM edit delete reply

oh boy this is gonna get Awkward FAST.....
speciallu when DEci bring out his surprise Of a certain person he plans to punish...and Max Rips his intestines out his nose.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:43 AM edit delete reply

ewww.. that could be splattery :D
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 3:56 PM edit delete reply

Setorius would make a running commentary one exactly which organs have been pulled out of the nose!

Complete with the original latin names 'n' everything. XD
mjkj 4th Mar 2015, 12:04 AM edit delete reply

Hmm, nice conversation...

...but I thought that only male servants were allowed in the presence of douchie...?

...and was douchie not about to bring everything downhill?

velvetsanity 4th Mar 2015, 3:40 AM edit delete reply

I think their plan is to give us a feel for how the dinner is going aside from drekhead's stupidity. Also, that's a good point regarding the servants. Is the dinner an exception due to the number of people present, or are Maxus' orders being ignored the moment he leaves the palace?
xpacetrue 4th Mar 2015, 4:43 AM edit delete reply

...Or, perhaps someone just forgot? (Perhaps not even a character?) ;)
Tokyo Rose 4th Mar 2015, 4:59 PM edit delete reply

When Decimus is alone, he's only served by males. Specifically, members of the priesthood. They're NOT slaves, and if he tries to mistreat them, he will be in deep shit. Setorius will Look at him! An eyebrow may be involved!
Lukkai 4th Mar 2015, 6:31 PM edit delete reply
I thought there was a ban on WMDs?
mjkj 4th Mar 2015, 4:51 AM edit delete reply

By the way: it seems that Lynn's necklace is floating also... >_<'
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:45 AM edit delete reply

yeah its a shadow bias .. i cant seem to get rid of it.,. it is actually sitting on her skin.. stupid shadows.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:44 AM edit delete reply

Actually all that is lifted for the dinner because Max and eventually Kali will be here. Deci acts up max will put his ass down. and deci will be seeing stars .. long as deci acts like a human being Max wont lift a hand ..
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 3:58 PM edit delete reply

Maybe the rule is only for when Deci is alone .. ie. he cannot be trusted around women on his own.

In this party setting, there are others to kick his ass, should he get out of line .. namely Maxus. :)
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 5:02 PM edit delete reply

Correct Sheela.
velvetsanity 4th Mar 2015, 6:41 PM edit delete reply

Fortunately, Maxus only needs to lift a finger. The whole hand is just overkill.
Greenwood Goat 4th Mar 2015, 6:03 AM edit delete reply
They should take care that the wine isn't spiked. Or Poisoned. Or spiked and poisoned. And what sort of drunk does Deckhead make?

* "Nobody loves me... *sniff* I'd have you all brutally and publicly slain... but what's the point? *swig* Same again..."

* "<i>Amo amici!!</i> Seriously, I love you all... so much I wanna [acts that are illegal even to describe in most jurisdictions on earth redacted and expunged] aaand- gods its... past midnight... yeah.. you.. 're all such.. such good listeners, too..."

* "I'll take the lot of you on! Who's first? You, sisterbitch? You, hostage girl whatever your name is? You, baldy? You, ashyassassinface robowhore? You want some? You- ha! You nerve-strike like a f-" *thud*

I'm sure Kali is allowed to take charge and manhandle Dec or render him harmlessly unconscious in order to prevent him from coming to harm... >;=)>
velvetsanity 4th Mar 2015, 8:02 AM edit delete reply

Have you forgotten? Drekhead is the "rape his own sister" sort of drunk :/
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:45 AM edit delete reply

The wine isnt spiked or poisoned .. trust me :D

And yes Kali would take charge of anything if Maxus didnt handle it first.
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 4:01 PM edit delete reply

Hah, I kinda want to see a drunk Decimus now.
I think the lulz are particularly strong in a Drunk Decimus vs. Setorius "battle".
We are after all talking about a young man vs. an 80 year old with the experience to go along - It would go *so* sideways. XD
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 5:02 PM edit delete reply

An 80 year old man who uses a lot of the "advancements" he invents .. Hes probably in better shape than Maxus. He does not believe him experimentation without achievable goals nor does he believe in throwing away results .. except where nothing can be salvaged.
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 6:39 PM edit delete reply

But that's why it would be so much fun to watch! :D
Lukkai 4th Mar 2015, 6:33 PM edit delete reply
Spiked or not. With Lynn obviously not being used to alcohol, she should be VERY careful with how much and fast she drinks!

I've seen people drunk from two glasses. Adult people.
Centcomm 5th Mar 2015, 12:05 AM edit delete reply

They are drinking watered wine too.. its a common way to cut the drunk factor .. and some wines you cant even tell.. :P
Lukkai 5th Mar 2015, 4:27 PM edit delete reply
Watering down the wine works (though today's wine enthusiasts are all crying out in horror right now ;) ). But even with that, someone not used to alcohol at all should be careful. And not drink too much or fast, especially not on an empty stomach.
CptKerion 5th Mar 2015, 12:38 AM edit delete reply
I've seen my mother get drunk on one. She's the black sheep in my family in that.
XMinusOne 4th Mar 2015, 7:47 AM edit delete reply
This before dinner chat brings a whole new dimension to the remark "Let me tell you about my operation." New Troy's following in the footsteps of New York; they tax the bejesus out of anything fun there too.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:46 AM edit delete reply

yeah.. thats would be the way of it.. However you can hire a android hooker for a relatively cheap cost ..
Dragonrider 4th Mar 2015, 11:48 AM edit delete reply

Where do you think they got the idea?
Dragonrider 4th Mar 2015, 11:45 AM edit delete reply

Just a thought with the glasses, Nehru collared jacket and gloves at all time Setorius is reminding me of a movie villian, want to say Dr. No for outfit and Dr. Strangelove for the shades. Also just reread his comments to Acantha young lady has depths of knowledge not shown before.
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 11:47 AM edit delete reply

Yep Acantha has layers.. :D Shes a lot smarter than she acts.
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 4:04 PM edit delete reply

Also, lets not forget that the two of them have past history, he did after all promise her sanctuary, if she joined him - He can't be all bad.

Though, for all we know, maybe he just wanted an assistant that wasn't a novice that was "dumb as a doorstop".
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 5:00 PM edit delete reply

Yep Setorius offered Acantha to join the Church.. but that would mean giving up any claim to the crown.
Sheela 5th Mar 2015, 5:06 PM edit delete reply

Still, he was ready to get on Decimus' bad side for Acantha, that speaks volumes of the man.
JustNoPoint 4th Mar 2015, 1:53 PM edit delete reply

I'd hate to know how much a Happy Meal might cost if everything bad for you is taxed a lot! :P
Centcomm 4th Mar 2015, 1:58 PM edit delete reply

about 35 credits... that about 35.00 LOL
Kitty 4th Mar 2015, 3:04 PM edit delete reply
Gotta love all this civilized conversation. Then Dec opens his mouth: "Miss Taylor, I've spoken to your mother. What a bitch. She'll have to be neutralized before we get married. Here, have some of these green beans, they're great."
Sheela 4th Mar 2015, 4:05 PM edit delete reply

Bwa ha ha . . yeah, that would be our drekhead allright. :D
KarToon12 5th Mar 2015, 8:49 AM edit delete reply

"Every patient and TEST SUBJECT..."

So much said in so little words...D:
Centcomm 5th Mar 2015, 8:52 AM edit delete reply

Yep .. that he has a good memory ? hehe :D
Tokyo Rose 5th Mar 2015, 8:30 PM edit delete reply

Why, he is a medical professional! It is incumbent upon every such person to be fully informed as to the physiological history of any lifeform taken under care! Are you suggesting there is something inappropriate about this level of involvement?

Sheela 6th Mar 2015, 10:33 AM edit delete reply

Goodness no!
I am, however, suggesting that he does not understand what "inappropiate" is.
Dongaria 5th Mar 2015, 6:06 PM edit delete reply

Like the natural light coming in form the windows making the scene darker. Creates a lot of atmosphere!
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