Comic 1170 - Scorched Earth

23rd Apr 2015, 9:00 PM
Scorched Earth
Average Rating: 5 (22 votes)

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Centcomm 23rd Apr 2015, 9:00 PM edit delete
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Dragonrider 23rd Apr 2015, 9:06 PM edit delete reply

Oopps, Boom~Boom~Bang~Snap~Krackle~Pop Clean up on Aisle 3 please, please fix the pin spotter aisle 4 and set-em up again. Please be aware that targets in your rear view mirrors may be closer than you think. Hup-two-three-four kill these suckers and shoot some more.
jamie59 23rd Apr 2015, 9:06 PM edit delete reply

Poor Ada. A peace sign in the kill them all & let god sort it out crowd.
Stormwind13 24th Apr 2015, 6:24 AM edit delete reply

Very much so, jamie. Ada just wants everyone to get along. She realizes it isn't going to happen, but that is what she wants.
Sheela 26th Apr 2015, 4:34 AM edit delete reply

While she may want to keep the killing to a minimum, I rather think she would like to have a go herself, at Prince Decimus.

Ada isn't immune to raging.
Though obviously, it's TeeDee's specialty. :)
Haegan2005 23rd Apr 2015, 9:07 PM edit delete reply

Interesting side of Ada. And consistent with what we know of her as well.

All that has been said though, I am fairly sure this group cannot hold off the combined might of the Roma military. Simple numbers will prevail once Roma knows what is going on.

having said that, if they do have to do such a fight, they have already failed. Lynn would not survive an extraction in that kind of firefight. Odds are, none of them would. Silver is simply talking about the penetration and extraction WITHOUT facing off against the might of Romas military. Anyone resisting in the teams way is simply a target to get mowed down in the most expedient manner possible.

Stormwind13 23rd Apr 2015, 9:11 PM edit delete reply

Wow. Dr. Silver is getting nasty here. Ada doesn't care for it either, but can't argue with her logic.

I wish I could get to know Ada better. :-)
CptKerion 23rd Apr 2015, 9:23 PM edit delete reply
15mm sabot rifle, tungsten carbide flechettes with a depleted uranium core please!

Ahurm sorry, just love my firepower.
Prefer a good old projectile weapon to almost any energy weapon. You can seriously much up an energy weapon, rendering it completely ineffective from all angles with relatively simple means. A gun like the above described needs some really, really thick armor to stop it.
Fjolsvith 23rd Apr 2015, 9:31 PM edit delete reply

Wouldn't a gun like that knock you on your ass just as well as your enemy?

A-10 Warthog aircraft have governors on their tank-busting Gatling guns because if they fired them full speed, it would shove the plane backwards in the air.
CptKerion 23rd Apr 2015, 9:34 PM edit delete reply
With proper recoil compensation such a sabot rifle wouldn't knock you on your ass. Bruise your shoulder? probably.
Keep in mind, it's not firing a solid slug, though it is firing one of those above mentioned flechettes at a rather distinctly high velocity.
The idea is to go in one side of an armored target and come out the other.

It's also one of the rifles I used a lot in the alternity tabletop and that was my preferred load for it.
Go in one side of a body tank, come out the other, kill the bastard behind it.
Hornet 24th Apr 2015, 5:41 AM edit delete reply
15mm is not really that large. There are more than one 10mm pistols on the market.
10 mm is comparable with a 44 mag.
CptKerion 24th Apr 2015, 9:22 AM edit delete reply
given that 12 gauge firing a slug fires a roughly inch diameter round, and .50 cal is 12.7mm, it's not that much larger.
Mark_L_A 30th May 2015, 2:03 PM edit delete reply

A 12 gauge slug is .690 -.729in diameter. A .50 cal is .500. There are some specialty shotgun rounds that are currently only available to SOCCOM that can put the hoodoo on lightly armored vehicles out to about 85 yards. Beyond that the rounds fall to the ground rather quick and lose all of their inertia. But inside that range, the results are devastating.
Oldarmourer 28th Jun 2019, 9:51 AM edit delete reply
That's not really possible, the engines put out more than enough thrust to counter that, it's not the recoil that's the problem, it's the gases from the gun firing building up too fast in the gun bay and detonating before the purging system can clear them out...that and you can only spin the gun so fast before the parts can't keep up and it jams or things break. The gun the Russians used on some fighters can spit out over 10,000 23mm rounds per minute and they never had a problem with it 'pushing the aircraft backwards'...gun gas getting sucked into the intake and stalling the engine, maybe, but not the recoil.
Oldarmourer 28th Jun 2019, 9:53 AM edit delete reply
your rate of fire is also capped by how long it takes the projectile to clear a barrel before it starts to move to bring the next one into battery.
Fjolsvith 23rd Apr 2015, 9:28 PM edit delete reply

I want a Heavy Stunner too.....
Rashala 23rd Apr 2015, 9:45 PM edit delete reply

*mental image TEdee walks in Two Giatn Gattle plasma cannons one in each hand Shoulder mounted missile and greanade launchers attached to targeting headgear she's wearing And Several NAnowire claymores aimed out from her body as antipersonnel gear.........And Marcus just shaking his head
Haegan2005 23rd Apr 2015, 9:59 PM edit delete reply

yep! Marcus would be wondering why she is under gunned... :D
Timotheus 23rd Apr 2015, 10:09 PM edit delete reply

...and TeeDee's comment, "Where should I hang my combat knife?"
Tokyo Rose 24th Apr 2015, 1:47 AM edit delete reply

She'd just be holding it in her teeth.
Marcus Ramesy 24th Apr 2015, 1:39 PM edit delete reply

and that would be my reaction too, shaking my head... and hoping that she still can move and maneuver after the fact
Rashala 24th Apr 2015, 2:24 PM edit delete reply

See I CAN read people.... Course we all know what TEdee would WANT to take into battle.

All that And the Cyber-Smaug I built that SOMEONE *eyes rose&* Stole
Marcus Ramesy 24th Apr 2015, 2:42 PM edit delete reply

LOL there is a difference between what we want to take in to battle.. and what is available.. personally.. I would have rather have turned the place to slag and call it a day... but.. thats not an option.. I would also would have rather had a larger team of heavy drones, NT-01 assault armor, assault craft ... orbital covering fire, and a contingent of tanks and heavy bombers... sadly.. none of those were available at the time.. so they had to send me and my team instead .... remember boys and girls.. if its worth bombing... its worth carpet bombing..
DLKmusic 24th Apr 2015, 4:37 PM edit delete reply

So what your saying then, is that if you're gonna do something wrong, do it RIGHT!
Marcus Ramesy 24th Apr 2015, 7:54 PM edit delete reply

go big... or go home... or so the saying goes..
Stormwind13 25th Apr 2015, 9:36 AM edit delete reply

Very good saying, Marcus. :-)

It isn't always who has the most, but who gets the most to a given POINT that wins the battle.
Computant 18th Aug 2016, 6:40 PM edit delete reply
Tactics win battles, Logistics wins wars.
AKA why the US won both world wars, we had a massive supply/logistics advantage.
Lukkai 25th Apr 2015, 8:48 PM edit delete reply
Close air support covereth a multitude of sins.
Sheela 26th Apr 2015, 4:34 AM edit delete reply

Ah, but if TeeDee is holding a knife in her teeth, hos is she gonna swear & curse at the enemy ?

Lukkai 26th Apr 2015, 4:02 PM edit delete reply

Voice recorder.
DLKmusic 23rd Apr 2015, 10:51 PM edit delete reply

I will probably leave a very intelligent, thoughtful, thorough response to this page, but it's going to take me a couple of days to repair my broken jaw from when it hit the floor here.
mjkj 23rd Apr 2015, 11:45 PM edit delete reply

Poor Ada... a medic she does not want to hurt somebody - even the enemy...

ProfEtheric 24th Apr 2015, 12:27 AM edit delete reply

Something about "first, do no harm", I imagine. As opposed to Teedee's "first, do harm".
Tokyo Rose 24th Apr 2015, 1:47 AM edit delete reply

"second, third, and fourth are also do harm"
"fifth is pizza"
Stormwind13 24th Apr 2015, 6:23 AM edit delete reply

Damn, TeeDee really must like Pizza. I figured one through ten would be "do harm with (variety of weapons)." :-D
Sheela 26th Apr 2015, 2:57 AM edit delete reply

Sixth is "Do harm with pizza !" >_<
cattservant 24th Apr 2015, 2:40 AM edit delete reply

Sheela 26th Apr 2015, 2:58 AM edit delete reply

Ada has them.

The rest of Team Kill-Em-All?
Not so much!
XMinusOne 24th Apr 2015, 10:03 AM edit delete reply
I'd take a slug thrower over a ray gun any day. New Roma's body armor may deflect a ray, but in no way can it defect an armor piercing bullet. A .357 or a .44 round will crack an engine block. Slugs made of steel, tungsten carbide or depleted uranium would Swiss cheese any body armor any time.
anonymous coward 24th Apr 2015, 10:38 AM edit delete reply
Without knowing how much power is supposed to be in these energy weapons I can't argue direct effect with you. One thing though: If they have some sort of bullshitanium power source that lets you discharge lots of energy then an energy weapon is decidedly better at area-effect damage from saturating the vicinity with heat. Carefully slagging a tank with a couple minutes work holding down a trigger and pointing at the right spots is just something a slug thrower can't do even with the pyrotic effects of uranium ammo. (The stuff is poisonous anyway, don't use uranium ammo.)
The Old Scribe 24th Apr 2015, 5:30 PM edit delete reply

No tank's gonna sit still and be hosed down with a ray gun for two minutes unless both it's treads are blown off. A sabot or a flechette round in the turret however ...
Centcomm 24th Apr 2015, 5:36 PM edit delete reply

Stunners are short range weapons due to the high energy output and capacity of the power cell. They are also bulkier than normal weapons, they are often used in special cases where you do not wish to harm the target - However due to the way a stunner works by disrupting the voluntary nervous system.

Normally by a high EM burst carried by electrical effects as a conduit its not uncommon for burns and in rare cases death from CNS collapse.

So while a stunner is "safer" than a slug or a energy pulse - it is , as all weapons are, it carry's a risk of harm or death.

Ill also point out the Stunner burns Lynn suffered when Dari shot her and even Gavins low powered stunner gave Lynn a first degree burn.
CptKerion 24th Apr 2015, 3:19 PM edit delete reply
I believe that if their armor is not meant to take the attacks from a heavy stunner, using stunners would be more politically sound.
Especially if these things have even halfway decent range.
Tokyo Rose 24th Apr 2015, 5:33 PM edit delete reply

These are not the people to talk to about "politically sound" measures. :D
Marcus Ramesy 24th Apr 2015, 6:46 PM edit delete reply

politically correct went out the window when we were sent on this mission... if they wanted politically correct, we would have never made it out of the hanger.
Stormwind13 24th Apr 2015, 8:31 PM edit delete reply

Politically correct is WASTED on his royal Douchimus, Marcus. CentComm wants the problem resolved, not politely politically danced around for months on end.
Marcus Ramesy 25th Apr 2015, 1:45 PM edit delete reply

and thats why she sent us.
Lukkai 25th Apr 2015, 8:53 PM edit delete reply
I'd rather say: If their armour is not made to stop a hit from a stunner, it might actually be the better or at least equally valid choice.
If I'm going for a quick in-out mission, I'll want to drop my opponents as quickly and thoroughly as possible. I don't care if they awake with nothing more than a burn on their skin half an hour after I'm gone. So if a stunner is reliably and quickly sending them down, it is a good choice.
Sheela 26th Apr 2015, 3:45 AM edit delete reply

There can be more than one type of armor around, so the stunner might not work on all.
highlander55 24th Apr 2015, 4:25 PM edit delete reply

I'm thinking more in the line of a Rail rifle.
Marcus Ramesy 24th Apr 2015, 6:49 PM edit delete reply

one of these days, Ill see if I can get Cent Com to do a mock up of old Gloria, we sadly had to retire that model because of compatibility issues with the newer versions of daz... but.. she was glorious.. Sadly, you need to be cybernetically enhanced, or a combat android to fire it, or it has to be a stationary emplacement weapon if you are not..
highlander55 25th Apr 2015, 7:20 PM edit delete reply

Energy requirement would be a trade-off. Problem with future wars is using: Energy weapons (plasma,EMP, ext), Shielding (both personal and transport). Even a Kamehameha wave. (Couldn't resist putting that one in!)
Skweeee 24th Apr 2015, 6:51 PM edit delete reply

The sign of a 'true' professional in any armed service is the recognition of the effectiveness of the economic use of force. This type of approach has dividends that are not apparent to the sophomore.

I like characters like Ada. One who stands by her ethical compass.
antrik 13th Oct 2016, 1:31 AM edit delete reply
Hehe, "Oh, please."
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