Very well put, the closest I've come is "...and I don't care if jc waterwalker himself comes bouncing down the flightline naked on a pogo stick using his balls for castenets and dragging the devil behind him, you will keep your pointy fkucing head on a swivel and try not to get RUN OVER or sucked into an intake!! do I make my self clear as mud, sunshine ?"
I don't think he could be pulling a wagon by its handle stuffed up his ass though. I mean, his head is already firmly wedged in there. That's not exactly leaving a lot of space for other things.
Sorry but think it's time for TR to pull her head out of her A$$ and admit, I Fucked Up I put a rank noob with no experience in a situation that required am experienced agent. I grabbed a knight errant on his way to rescue a damsel in distress and expected him to forget it, and expected machine perfection from him. So to make up for it I will threaten the human rather than admit I made an error in my plans.
To imagine what she's directing at herself, take what she's saying to Kyle and dial it up about ten notches.
The way she sees it, getting Kyle where he's needed to be to do the job he's needed to do, as quickly and quietly as possible, is vital right now. If Aeneas is left in his current condition, every effort has been wasted. Even if Lynn is successfully extracted, that still leaves Decimus in complete power in Nova Roma, and having had his cunning plan fall apart, there's no telling exactly what that nutterbutter will do next--but it will be disastrous for everyone caught downrange.
" I put a rank noob with no experience in a situation that required am experienced agent. "
But how does one recruit an agent that's both experienced as an agent and skilled enough to fix an AIS - and who is not likely to doublecross? Put out a classified ad?
Everyone starts out on the job as a more-or-less newbie. Experience is gained through doing.
Rose needed someone with a very specific skill set to infiltrate Nova Roma to get a specific - and very vital - job done. And done right. And with little chance of being noticed. Given the situation and time constraints, she was probably a bit desperate.
Kyle's cover was pretty good. He was sponsored by a reputable priest / doctor. And he was hired as a busboy / kitchen aide, working to pay for his tuition. Nobody would have noticed the kid... had he kept his cool and stuck with the plan.
As for a machine being able to do his job better: What kind of machine? An android? I think this comic has established that androids aren't very different from humans (aside from a much better likelihood to be of sound mind and body). Androids have strong emotions, too. They can still be prejudiced. (Think of Teedee.) And they can become enraged and irrational. (Again, think of Teedee.)
Nevermind the fact that New Romans fear and despise androids. It's unlikely they'd let one get close enough to fix Aeneas. Besides, Rose needed someone that Lynn would trust in order to get Aeneas to trust the agent enough to fix him.
Very well reasoned, xpace. All your points probably led to Kyle's being recruited. There are undoubtedly others that could have done the job, but they might have presented one or more problems getting them where they need to be. Plus Kyle already stated he was going.
Best of a bunch of less than ideal options. Especially considering time constraints. Riddle me this, what does Douchimus do if he's still in command when Lynn is freed? The possibilities are numerous, and many could be VERY ugly for everyone involved. I doubt it would be truly 'rational' though.
Frankly, if I was Rose, I would have smuggled a bunch of parcels into New Rome, and had my agents assemble them near the DMZ border in the form of small remote controlled robot drones with the latest stealth technology.
After all, Aeneas is a bit behind techwise, so it should be feasible to build some stealth drones able to evade his defenses long enough to make contact with him, and have him disable security for some repair drones, and then have those do the job.
Build some small cell-cast transmitters as you move into his area as well, so as to be able to control drones better.
I'm sure Tokyo Rose herself have the expertise to repair Aeneas.
HEck, just repair his main repair shop and give him access to that, and he would likely repair himself!
1) Aeneas isn't "sane" enough to be able to cooperate.
2) Remote drones can't continue to operate inside Aeneas's Tower; the shielding kills remote signals. If he weren't so badly damaged, he could set a clear line through, but... see #1.
Using Kyle is pretty much a last-ditch effort. I mean, who would use a kid this dumb if there was another option? ;D
Question: Is Tokyo Rose a sentient AIS that arose from "The Internet" as we know it (as opposed to Cent coming from military nets, and Deep Blue starting as a chess program)?
I ask because while Rose isn't the only AI to make current-time pop culture references, Rose *is* the one that makes them the most often, in detail that leads me to believe that's what's on her mind, as opposed to an archive that exists somewhere because "hey, data!"
I could also be reading too much in. If you're making historical references, you either use real references or hope the reader guesses you're making stuff up. If Rose says "I'm going to pummel you like Beiber should've been!" we get it, if she says "I'll make you wish you were standing in for Lucky Dechamewitz's last concert in 2172!" we.... won't.
Pirtnac, those are good questions. And I think we'll get answers, eventually. But your line of questioning assumes that Rose is an AIS. But what if she is something... a bit different?
Who wants to start a pool on how long it takes some twisted fan artist to bring that delightful little inner sight we'd all like to un-see to glorious, disgusting life right here on our very own screens? (Because once we get wind of its actual existence, no one will be able to resist, like rubbernecking a freeway pileup)
Ye gods of Datachasers, you deliver. Oh how much you deliver. Far more than our shriveled brains are able to process while staying sane, but you definitely deliver...
Now Kyle will be totally worth following. I'm guessing NO ONE survived Tokyo Rose-grade scolding and did the thing that pissed her of again...
i disagree.
odds are greatly improved until hormones kick in again, at which point the throbbing from the future beating Rose inflicts should propagate back to him from the future and give him a brief pause. at which point i rate odds at 50/50.
hopefully the moment of discretion might actually generate positive effect.
You think the sub-text might be Kyle's attitude now? :-D
And I would say Kyle is THOROUGHLY intimidated by Rose now. Teenager or not, you better take her seriously. She took it easy on him up until now. NOW, she is channeling generations of Master/Drill Sergeants!
I think it is just the perspective, xpace. It doesn't look too distorted to me at least. Of course, since she is virtual inside his hardware, she should be able to make herself any size she wants.
Ok last time I commented via my Kindle Fire the site listed me as "guest" even though I signed in (this is Kitty); anyway, I just wanted to note that I love the way the pointer on Rose's word balloons looks like a sword or dagger...nice touch
I do a lot of small things with the word balloons. "Radio transmission"-style bubbles have lightning-bolt tails or little burst marks to suggest a filtered tone. Virtual Rose's pointers are a subtle nod towards that. The fact that they look STABBY is a bonus. :D
Thanks Rose......I REALLY REALLY needed That second mental image you painted floating in my head....excuse me I need to go borrow Tedee's plasma shotgun to get it out
Despite Tokyo Rose's warnings and Kyle's reactions, his facial expression doesn't reflect his repentance and decision to follow the plan. By the look on his face, he seems a bit too calm.
And I got a completely different read off the page, Dbtolkn. To me Kyle is so shocked by everything going on that he is trying to not give Rose any MORE cause to blast him. His answer in the last panel shows that he is ready to march to Rose's drums.
Kyle, dumb enough to totally screw up and get himself shot. Smart enough to realize he fu¢ked up and that he needs to listen to the entity in the 'room' that has lived ten thousand lives.
That look on Kyle's Face in Panel 2 when he said "I didn't need that mental image". That is the look of a raw recruit that's got a DI in his face and is trying to concentrate on standing at attention and staying silent.
If he fails to do that, there will be hell to pay, and it looks like he's smart enough to understand that.
Okay, this whole "speech" has been great, and I've been trying to hold it together, but the ballpunchery of panel 1 made me laugh out loud. Good God...
The way she sees it, getting Kyle where he's needed to be to do the job he's needed to do, as quickly and quietly as possible, is vital right now. If Aeneas is left in his current condition, every effort has been wasted. Even if Lynn is successfully extracted, that still leaves Decimus in complete power in Nova Roma, and having had his cunning plan fall apart, there's no telling exactly what that nutterbutter will do next--but it will be disastrous for everyone caught downrange.
But how does one recruit an agent that's both experienced as an agent and skilled enough to fix an AIS - and who is not likely to doublecross? Put out a classified ad?
Everyone starts out on the job as a more-or-less newbie. Experience is gained through doing.
Rose needed someone with a very specific skill set to infiltrate Nova Roma to get a specific - and very vital - job done. And done right. And with little chance of being noticed. Given the situation and time constraints, she was probably a bit desperate.
Kyle's cover was pretty good. He was sponsored by a reputable priest / doctor. And he was hired as a busboy / kitchen aide, working to pay for his tuition. Nobody would have noticed the kid... had he kept his cool and stuck with the plan.
As for a machine being able to do his job better: What kind of machine? An android? I think this comic has established that androids aren't very different from humans (aside from a much better likelihood to be of sound mind and body). Androids have strong emotions, too. They can still be prejudiced. (Think of Teedee.) And they can become enraged and irrational. (Again, think of Teedee.)
Nevermind the fact that New Romans fear and despise androids. It's unlikely they'd let one get close enough to fix Aeneas. Besides, Rose needed someone that Lynn would trust in order to get Aeneas to trust the agent enough to fix him.
Best of a bunch of less than ideal options. Especially considering time constraints. Riddle me this, what does Douchimus do if he's still in command when Lynn is freed? The possibilities are numerous, and many could be VERY ugly for everyone involved. I doubt it would be truly 'rational' though.
After all, Aeneas is a bit behind techwise, so it should be feasible to build some stealth drones able to evade his defenses long enough to make contact with him, and have him disable security for some repair drones, and then have those do the job.
Build some small cell-cast transmitters as you move into his area as well, so as to be able to control drones better.
I'm sure Tokyo Rose herself have the expertise to repair Aeneas.
HEck, just repair his main repair shop and give him access to that, and he would likely repair himself!
.. ah well, small plotholes can't be avoided.
1) Aeneas isn't "sane" enough to be able to cooperate.
2) Remote drones can't continue to operate inside Aeneas's Tower; the shielding kills remote signals. If he weren't so badly damaged, he could set a clear line through, but... see #1.
Using Kyle is pretty much a last-ditch effort. I mean, who would use a kid this dumb if there was another option? ;D
Although that is one hell of a warped and twisted image right there...Ewww.
I ask because while Rose isn't the only AI to make current-time pop culture references, Rose *is* the one that makes them the most often, in detail that leads me to believe that's what's on her mind, as opposed to an archive that exists somewhere because "hey, data!"
I could also be reading too much in. If you're making historical references, you either use real references or hope the reader guesses you're making stuff up. If Rose says "I'm going to pummel you like Beiber should've been!" we get it, if she says "I'll make you wish you were standing in for Lucky Dechamewitz's last concert in 2172!" we.... won't.
Also, fan artists: Panels 1 and 2 Do. Not. Exist.
P.S.: It exists IN YOUR HEAD, doesn't it? *diabolical laughter*
Yes .. in best River song voice " sorry Sweety .. Spoilers .."
Also, many crackpot conspiracy theories have been done about Rose's origins, heck even I have had a go at it.
Also, Ada prefers the roses that don't bite - So there's an image!
A horde of snapping, biting Feral Roses about to swarm over your camp.
WAIT, WHAT THE HELL AM I SAYING??????
Now Kyle will be totally worth following. I'm guessing NO ONE survived Tokyo Rose-grade scolding and did the thing that pissed her of again...
odds are greatly improved until hormones kick in again, at which point the throbbing from the future beating Rose inflicts should propagate back to him from the future and give him a brief pause. at which point i rate odds at 50/50.
hopefully the moment of discretion might actually generate positive effect.
And I would say Kyle is THOROUGHLY intimidated by Rose now. Teenager or not, you better take her seriously. She took it easy on him up until now. NOW, she is channeling generations of Master/Drill Sergeants!
Kinda creepy, actually. In that panel she reminds me of the Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland (2010), the one with Johnny Depp.
I don't.
What.
God.
Roooose ... she's doing it again! :(
You need to hit her!
Kyle, dumb enough to totally screw up and get himself shot. Smart enough to realize he fu¢ked up and that he needs to listen to the entity in the 'room' that has lived ten thousand lives.
If he fails to do that, there will be hell to pay, and it looks like he's smart enough to understand that.
Though Lynn (or Acantha) in fishnets sounds great...
...even vote incentive worthy...