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Not only will it kill you while in it's sleep, but on the way in it will break down your front door, your bedroom doors and it'll eat your bed as well.
And then it will chase off your lawn-gnome, just to be spiteful. :D
Common, the explosive barrel trope? If this is a video game, and you're handing him explosive barrels, you really are holding out hope for us that he survives.
Hail and may the fates be kind and guide you to safety Democlus. Should the fates be unkind, you will have Escort for your journey to Valhalla this day.
On a more practical note possibly even Nox will get a bit toasted by the flames and shrapnel, we can hope at least she is impared somewhat by the blast. Actually might be a good idea to let Nox close up on the barrels before blasting them.
Ah, the old barrels half full of explosive chemicals trick. It's gonna be raining Blackshell parts pretty soon, I think. Nox, on the other hand, might get her synthohair mussed and that's about it. She's not holding back because she's slow, she just likes to see humans die no matter whose side they're on.
Corrosive AND Flammable?
UN 3264 CORROSIVE LIQUID, ACIDIC, INORGANIC, CLASS 8
And rotary molded Polypropylene barrels at that (you can tell by the bung plugs and upper rim casting). They won't contain any explosive force long enough to make a really big boom or create any shrapnel, but they BURN (and melt) real good. (Technically, those should be lined stainless steel drums) I suppose it being the future we could say they're some sort of engineered ceramic.
Worst case scenario, Class 8, Group 1 - Contents will dissolve human skin within 1 hour of a three minute exposure....
No bangie, bangie though.
However, a significant amount of energy dumped in from an energized particle beam into a really nasty corrosive (acid) liquid or gel, a significant portion of which flash evaporated and atomizing the rest into a really NASTY cloud of corrosive vapor and droplets...
Technicall? Artists often don't know why a steel drum should be used over a plastic barrel, because the plastic barrels look more futuristic than the old steel ones.
Once they explode, this will be a case of hollywood physics by accident - Everything explodes! And I'm ok with that. :)
Actually I thought the Material for the barrels was metal .. at least thats the Shader - material settings I used - I didnt even think about the fact that some are made of plastic!
55gal drums equal 250 liters of highly corrosive liquid, probably in water suspension so we’ll take that assumption as a given….
Let’s say Damocles hand cannon / particle beam can pump enough energy into the water to take it past phase change to steam pretty much instantly.
The volumetric ratio of steam to water at phase transition is 1700:1! (Steam explosions are NOT fun!)
So… each US gallon (3.785 liters / 0.1337 ft-cubed) expands instantly and quite violently at 1700:1 to 227.3 ft-cubed
Let’s say about 1/3 of the container phase transitioned to steam, so call it 18 gallons (this is pvt contracting here, so a bit of rounding) so we’re talking about, oh, about 4100 cubic foot cloud of superheated steam, per barrel. The shock front of the ‘gas’ pushing against the rest of the liquid in the container is traveling at probably well over 6,000fps, totally atomizing the liquid into mico-droplets after the tank ruptures. Said micro-droplets of corrosive will flash to steam when exposed to the superheated steam cloud adding their volume to the cloud even as it cools from mixing with the surrounding air.
So…. Four barrels, give an initial (but still rapidly expanding) cloud size of 16,400 cubic feet of boiling or near boiling vapor and seriously corrosive, flesh-eating steam and droplets in a tightly contained space…..
I say even way back there…. Nox’s still damned near inside ground zero!!! (Not to mention a Democlus who’s pretty damned close as well …)
Which also begs the question, can his suit and breathing gear handle the heated corrosive atmosphere post-blast?
You're missing the flammable aspect of the contents. That changes all the calculations, not to mention the laser burn hole will cause a pressure release path. It's stated these are some form of combustible solvent that can be ignited by laser fire and that the drums are only partially filled (meaning that they should be more ignitable because there's more room for air/fuel mixing in them.
It's the Corrosive aspect that's making this a kind of an author's device situation though (nothing wrong with that, by the way), since substances that combine both of those natures tend to very quirky, but not too reactive without a catalyst.
Probably should have gone with an explosive or oxidizing label instead of corrosive. Then they could be considered self detonating.
(It's been 12 years since I could talk shop.)
I didn't realize UN 3264 included flammables... author's device?
Anyway, I wouldn't count on the burn hole being being an effective exit point before the pressure wave blew the containment to smithereens....
Assuming an energized particle beam, anything the beam hit would probably initially phase transition to plasma, surrounded by an area of rapidly expanding (multiple thousands fps) super-heated vapor under very-high pressure (due to inertial containment by surrounding liquids) where energy is transferred to the surrounding materials. A situation that would continue olny as long as there is energy being pumped into the situation by Dem's blaster and the barrel walls held.
There is no way Dem could get his finger off the trigger fast enough fast enough for the plasma cavity to collapse before the barrels rupture unless each shot of the weapon is time-limited (which does not appear to be the case).
Of course we're also talking of the kind of event time-slices that Doc Edgerton would have loved....
(or CC & TR drawing out the suspense for another day ;) )
* * * **
Of course, there is he minor detail of why is a civilization 1800 plus years in the future still using US DOT/UN labels labels or does the N.O.S. refer, in this case, to 'New-Old Stock' ;)
Oh, they can read. But as I like to say with some drivers I encounter as well: Just because you can do something does not automatically mean that you're able to do it.
In marketing speak, that means that the Prince's Elite troops, are "focusing very precisely, on exactly what they are the very best at!"
*insert fake plastic smile here*
Until then, the prince has a special list of 10 things, that you should not do, and if you do, you will be sent to the dungaon to be flayed alive - But he loves you! :)
Nox: ...I will give you a 6 out of 10 for that: you should have fired 0.3 of a second earlier to maximise the carnage, and if you'd really thought ahead, you would have moved the barrels to the narrower corridor, although that might have looked more suspicious (and if I'd really thought ahead, I would have surrounded those men with camera drones to capture the glorious action from multiple angles)... But enough talk. Killing now.
***Uses Jedi mind trick*** you did not hear that, Rose, what you heard chk say was "It's a good thing Ceci and Dolly already know Democlus IS on Acantha and Lynn's side, and WON'T blow him away."
while we're at it... "you have a craving for goldfish crackers"
I have a necromancer, that's almost the same .. right ?
Rose : ... but ... she's an android! Androids cannot be raised as zombies? *zombie Centcomm shambles along*
Rose : ARRGH .. HOW DOES THAT EVEN WORK ?! I want that spell, dammit!
Beavis : Oh look .. he he he he .. there's some barrels.
Butthead : Oh yeah, and they're blue like your balls! huh huh
Beavis : .. balls .. he he
Butthead : huh huh
Beavies : he he he he
Nox : *sigh*
*barrels explode*
Beavis : Aaaaahhhhhh .. it stings and burns!
Butthead : me too arrgh
Nox : Oh thank god.
What I'd like to know is: How fast can Cassians (and New Troy androids) run? Can they outpace an Olympic athlete? Can they run like the Million Dollar Man and the Bionic Woman?
Cassians can run full out about 80 miles per hour for short bursts.
NOw this is also Cassian dependant. Malati was Built for speed. She was one of the fastest Runners. Nox is not far behind Malati on Speed.
Average Cassian Speed like for Hrist and Kali sits around 50 to 60 MPH
Ceci can move at a slightly faster 110 MPH but she cheats with a Gravity impeller. ( it lowers her " weight " so her body can do "more" its also how she can execute massive High jumps that even Teedee would be impressed with.. Now the impeller does NOT let her "fly" it just lets her move faster and more precisely. and can only be used in short bursts.
I actually think the Dem has a decent upper hand
So if the A-S will fail out after the explosion that will give him a chance to lay down a few shots to any survivors before probably going H2H. Hopefully damaging Nox enough that the fight can be held onto until Dolly shows up and can hopefully infer that the red fighting Nox is on their side and pops Nox a few times with her fancy peashooter.
*Drools slightly* Or the Little Angel can just cut them both down in a gore filled scene....
Now we find out just how well Dem would do with Maxus' unit.
Classic delaying ambush. I only hope it works. Initial advantage is to Dem, since Nox & Co. don't know they're walking into the KZ... but that first punch has got to hit hard to even the odds.
Somehow this seems appropriate for this weekend -http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/09/25/blood-moon-lunar-eclipse-super-moon-need-to-know/72790162/ :-)
Update on the bloodmoon thing.
It's almost entirely in the shadow here in Denmark now.
- But -
My digital camera cannot catch it, too low light levels.
To illustrate, look at this picture, which was taken just before the last sliver of the moon turned dark.
You cannot even see the rest of the moon !
Admittedly, my phone camera is rubbish.
But I suspect that unless you have a camera that has either a large lens to catch some light, or the ability to have a long exposure time, you might not get that much out of it.
The moon itself is pretty cool though, right now it's kinda orange/ dusty sand kinda colored.
Very cool. :)
From her point of view, I suppose being a spectator to the carnage means she can concentrate on enjoying the blood show, rather than concentrate on fighting.
After all, she "hates humans more than Murderturds hate everything". Perhaps watching humans kill each other in painful ways is some sort of kink to her?
I'm glad the barrels are properly marked per the 2011 Emergency Response Guide.
(sorry, my inner safety manager coming out.)
As an aside, AT&T killed my internet for almost three weeks, It's been heck trying to find coffee shops etc. where I could follow the story. I don't even drink coffee. :(
Well, once the gas is released, the masks smart filters will become the "safety manager" !
It might go something like this :
*Barrels explode, toxic fumes envelope the smurf patrol*
Smart Mask : Toxic Fumes detected!
Smart Mask : Would you like to activate the Smart Filters(tm) ?
Beavis : Uhh .. he he ... yes please.
Butthead : Yeah, yeah .. huh huh huh
Beavis : uhh, he he he
Smart Mask : An error has ocurred, you have not paid your breathing tax in full.
Beavis : .. uuhhh.
Butthead : huh huh
Beavis : yes I have .. I think.
Smart Mask : It is possible that it has not been registered properly."
Beavis : Oh .. uhh .. register it then?
Smart Mask : Please breathe harder into the microphone to register your breathing tax.
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Smart Mask : Dialing Daughter ...
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Butthead : You have a daughter ?
Beavis : Hhhhhmmg ....hhhhmmgg ... uhhh ... yeah, it was an accident.
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Butthead : An accident ?
Beavis : Yeah ... uhh .. I earned a few bucks as a sperm donor.
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg .... hhhnggg
Beavis : And when she wanted a doctors seed, they gave her mine.
Butthead : wow ... that's fucked up! huh huh
Beavis : he he he he .. yeah.
Butthead : Oh man, this air is foul, why does it sting and burn?
Beavis : You don't have your helmet on man.
Butthead : *cough* .. oh yeah ... huhh huh
Beavis : he he he he
Butthead : huh huh *cough* huh
Beavis : he he he *cough'
Smart Mask : Registration failed, the recipent hung up on you.
Smart Mask : Smart Filters (tm) not engaged.
Smart Mask : Please have a nice death.
Butthead : *wheeeeeeze*
Beavis : Oh shit. *cough* *wheeze* *thud x 2*
Nox : ....... I still can't believe they actually PAID me to program that app. :D
Meanwhile elsewhere :
Daughter : "Mommy, there's a weird man breathing heavily on the phone!"
Mommy : "That's your dad, dear."
Daughter : "Dammit dad, stop being weird !" >:(
And it's pissed.
Good thing mister fluffy here doesn't have Rose's Vocabulary!
And then it will chase off your lawn-gnome, just to be spiteful. :D
You are *E*V*I*L*.
:D :D :D :D
On a more practical note possibly even Nox will get a bit toasted by the flames and shrapnel, we can hope at least she is impared somewhat by the blast. Actually might be a good idea to let Nox close up on the barrels before blasting them.
Cent Arg!!! weekend cliff hanger.
UN 3264 CORROSIVE LIQUID, ACIDIC, INORGANIC, CLASS 8
And rotary molded Polypropylene barrels at that (you can tell by the bung plugs and upper rim casting). They won't contain any explosive force long enough to make a really big boom or create any shrapnel, but they BURN (and melt) real good. (Technically, those should be lined stainless steel drums) I suppose it being the future we could say they're some sort of engineered ceramic.
No bangie, bangie though.
However, a significant amount of energy dumped in from an energized particle beam into a really nasty corrosive (acid) liquid or gel, a significant portion of which flash evaporated and atomizing the rest into a really NASTY cloud of corrosive vapor and droplets...
Once they explode, this will be a case of hollywood physics by accident - Everything explodes! And I'm ok with that. :)
55gal drums equal 250 liters of highly corrosive liquid, probably in water suspension so we’ll take that assumption as a given….
Let’s say Damocles hand cannon / particle beam can pump enough energy into the water to take it past phase change to steam pretty much instantly.
The volumetric ratio of steam to water at phase transition is 1700:1! (Steam explosions are NOT fun!)
So… each US gallon (3.785 liters / 0.1337 ft-cubed) expands instantly and quite violently at 1700:1 to 227.3 ft-cubed
Let’s say about 1/3 of the container phase transitioned to steam, so call it 18 gallons (this is pvt contracting here, so a bit of rounding) so we’re talking about, oh, about 4100 cubic foot cloud of superheated steam, per barrel. The shock front of the ‘gas’ pushing against the rest of the liquid in the container is traveling at probably well over 6,000fps, totally atomizing the liquid into mico-droplets after the tank ruptures. Said micro-droplets of corrosive will flash to steam when exposed to the superheated steam cloud adding their volume to the cloud even as it cools from mixing with the surrounding air.
So…. Four barrels, give an initial (but still rapidly expanding) cloud size of 16,400 cubic feet of boiling or near boiling vapor and seriously corrosive, flesh-eating steam and droplets in a tightly contained space…..
I say even way back there…. Nox’s still damned near inside ground zero!!! (Not to mention a Democlus who’s pretty damned close as well …)
Which also begs the question, can his suit and breathing gear handle the heated corrosive atmosphere post-blast?
It's the Corrosive aspect that's making this a kind of an author's device situation though (nothing wrong with that, by the way), since substances that combine both of those natures tend to very quirky, but not too reactive without a catalyst.
Probably should have gone with an explosive or oxidizing label instead of corrosive. Then they could be considered self detonating.
(It's been 12 years since I could talk shop.)
Anyway, I wouldn't count on the burn hole being being an effective exit point before the pressure wave blew the containment to smithereens....
Assuming an energized particle beam, anything the beam hit would probably initially phase transition to plasma, surrounded by an area of rapidly expanding (multiple thousands fps) super-heated vapor under very-high pressure (due to inertial containment by surrounding liquids) where energy is transferred to the surrounding materials. A situation that would continue olny as long as there is energy being pumped into the situation by Dem's blaster and the barrel walls held.
There is no way Dem could get his finger off the trigger fast enough fast enough for the plasma cavity to collapse before the barrels rupture unless each shot of the weapon is time-limited (which does not appear to be the case).
Of course we're also talking of the kind of event time-slices that Doc Edgerton would have loved....
(or CC & TR drawing out the suspense for another day ;) )
* * * **
Of course, there is he minor detail of why is a civilization 1800 plus years in the future still using US DOT/UN labels labels or does the N.O.S. refer, in this case, to 'New-Old Stock' ;)
five bags full...
This will be fun.
*insert fake plastic smile here*
Until then, the prince has a special list of 10 things, that you should not do, and if you do, you will be sent to the dungaon to be flayed alive - But he loves you! :)
***BOOOOM!!!***
Nox: ...I will give you a 6 out of 10 for that: you should have fired 0.3 of a second earlier to maximise the carnage, and if you'd really thought ahead, you would have moved the barrels to the narrower corridor, although that might have looked more suspicious (and if I'd really thought ahead, I would have surrounded those men with camera drones to capture the glorious action from multiple angles)... But enough talk. Killing now.
So Democlus will whittle them down, and I BET! that as CeCi nd Dolly come up CeCi will get a message to help Democlus against Nox.
while we're at it... "you have a craving for goldfish crackers"
OI! SOMEONE GET ME A PRIEST WITH RESSURECTION!
Rose : ... but ... she's an android! Androids cannot be raised as zombies?
*zombie Centcomm shambles along*
Rose : ARRGH .. HOW DOES THAT EVEN WORK ?! I want that spell, dammit!
We get them from professionals!
"Sorry, she's in the next castle. And that castle is the REAL boss level!"
Chekov's Sun !
OMG Who the fuck gave Beavis a gun?
.. hmm ..
*barrels explode*
Cassians can run full out about 80 miles per hour for short bursts.
NOw this is also Cassian dependant. Malati was Built for speed. She was one of the fastest Runners. Nox is not far behind Malati on Speed.
Average Cassian Speed like for Hrist and Kali sits around 50 to 60 MPH
Ceci can move at a slightly faster 110 MPH but she cheats with a Gravity impeller. ( it lowers her " weight " so her body can do "more" its also how she can execute massive High jumps that even Teedee would be impressed with.. Now the impeller does NOT let her "fly" it just lets her move faster and more precisely. and can only be used in short bursts.
So if the A-S will fail out after the explosion that will give him a chance to lay down a few shots to any survivors before probably going H2H. Hopefully damaging Nox enough that the fight can be held onto until Dolly shows up and can hopefully infer that the red fighting Nox is on their side and pops Nox a few times with her fancy peashooter.
*Drools slightly* Or the Little Angel can just cut them both down in a gore filled scene....
Classic delaying ambush. I only hope it works. Initial advantage is to Dem, since Nox & Co. don't know they're walking into the KZ... but that first punch has got to hit hard to even the odds.
Saluto vos Democlus!
It hasn't started yet though, it's stil bright and pretty.
It's almost entirely in the shadow here in Denmark now.
- But -
My digital camera cannot catch it, too low light levels.
To illustrate, look at this picture, which was taken just before the last sliver of the moon turned dark.
You cannot even see the rest of the moon !
Admittedly, my phone camera is rubbish.
But I suspect that unless you have a camera that has either a large lens to catch some light, or the ability to have a long exposure time, you might not get that much out of it.
The moon itself is pretty cool though, right now it's kinda orange/ dusty sand kinda colored.
Very cool. :)
Overconfident much, are they not?
@alt text: sadly only in her mind...
And the further back she is, the less chance of being an accidental casualty.
After all, she "hates humans more than Murderturds hate everything". Perhaps watching humans kill each other in painful ways is some sort of kink to her?
Yeahhh, not so much.
Unless you mean body bags. Or vacuum cleaner bags, because there may not be that much left.
Go Democlus!
Oh no, exploding barrels of flamable liquid....our one weakness....
(sorry, my inner safety manager coming out.)
As an aside, AT&T killed my internet for almost three weeks, It's been heck trying to find coffee shops etc. where I could follow the story. I don't even drink coffee. :(
It might go something like this :
*Barrels explode, toxic fumes envelope the smurf patrol*
Smart Mask : Toxic Fumes detected!
Smart Mask : Would you like to activate the Smart Filters(tm) ?
Beavis : Uhh .. he he ... yes please.
Butthead : Yeah, yeah .. huh huh huh
Beavis : uhh, he he he
Smart Mask : An error has ocurred, you have not paid your breathing tax in full.
Beavis : .. uuhhh.
Butthead : huh huh
Beavis : yes I have .. I think.
Smart Mask : It is possible that it has not been registered properly."
Beavis : Oh .. uhh .. register it then?
Smart Mask : Please breathe harder into the microphone to register your breathing tax.
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Smart Mask : Dialing Daughter ...
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Butthead : You have a daughter ?
Beavis : Hhhhhmmg ....hhhhmmgg ... uhhh ... yeah, it was an accident.
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Butthead : An accident ?
Beavis : Yeah ... uhh .. I earned a few bucks as a sperm donor.
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg ... hhhnggg
Beavis : hhhng ... hnnnggg .... hhhnggg
Beavis : And when she wanted a doctors seed, they gave her mine.
Butthead : wow ... that's fucked up! huh huh
Beavis : he he he he .. yeah.
Butthead : Oh man, this air is foul, why does it sting and burn?
Beavis : You don't have your helmet on man.
Butthead : *cough* .. oh yeah ... huhh huh
Beavis : he he he he
Butthead : huh huh *cough* huh
Beavis : he he he *cough'
Smart Mask : Registration failed, the recipent hung up on you.
Smart Mask : Smart Filters (tm) not engaged.
Smart Mask : Please have a nice death.
Butthead : *wheeeeeeze*
Beavis : Oh shit. *cough* *wheeze*
*thud x 2*
Nox : ....... I still can't believe they actually PAID me to program that app. :D
Meanwhile elsewhere :
Daughter : "Mommy, there's a weird man breathing heavily on the phone!"
Mommy : "That's your dad, dear."
Daughter : "Dammit dad, stop being weird !" >:(
*hangs up*
:D