Comic 1319 - Cooperation

6th Mar 2016, 9:00 PM
Cooperation
Average Rating: 5 (18 votes)

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Centcomm 6th Mar 2016, 9:10 PM edit delete
Centcomm
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Dragonrider 6th Mar 2016, 9:04 PM edit delete reply

Find a jury of their Peers and convict the whole corp.Meanwhile you still need a cup of Rebel Radio for the Revolution you're baking. Oh yes cliff hanger part two coming up.
Centcomm 6th Mar 2016, 11:06 PM edit delete reply

Hopefully not that bad of one. Lots of good stuff happening soon!
MikeLinPA 7th Mar 2016, 6:36 AM edit delete reply
A jury of their peers? The only way a jury of rapists, murderers, and necrophiliacs would convict them is if they have their way with them afterwards.
Sheela 7th Mar 2016, 1:57 PM edit delete reply

Easy, just hire a band of Gutters to convict them ... then after the Gutters set them free, leave them all to the Murderturd named Mr. Propolopolis. He needs food in order to regenerate his legs after all.
Visvires 6th Mar 2016, 9:06 PM edit delete reply
Said punishment being jail. C'm'on Maxus, leave them for later.
Centcomm 6th Mar 2016, 11:06 PM edit delete reply

heh we shall see :D
jamie59 6th Mar 2016, 9:11 PM edit delete reply

Well the strings are coming together.
Centcomm 6th Mar 2016, 11:44 PM edit delete reply

Oh you have no idea.. :D
Sheela 7th Mar 2016, 1:58 PM edit delete reply

They use string ?
I thought they used nanowire.
Visvires 7th Mar 2016, 3:13 PM edit delete reply
Strings for coming together. Nanowire for coming apart.
Rashala 6th Mar 2016, 9:29 PM edit delete reply

If I could centy I would but irl cash short too
Centcomm 6th Mar 2016, 11:44 PM edit delete reply

Its alright rash. I totally understand.
HiFranc 6th Mar 2016, 10:10 PM edit delete reply

Quintus, how's your heart...beat?
Centcomm 6th Mar 2016, 11:45 PM edit delete reply

A few beats higher than normal :D they have been playing catch up behind Noctis.
Lukkai 7th Mar 2016, 1:50 PM edit delete reply

And that's the only reason...
Timotheus 6th Mar 2016, 10:41 PM edit delete reply

Well, they have two undamaged sets of Pratorian armor. That could be useful.
Centcomm 6th Mar 2016, 11:45 PM edit delete reply

True that. Maxus will insure they never wear those colors again.
Sheela 7th Mar 2016, 2:00 PM edit delete reply

Two regulars, disguised as Praetorians, with a Cassian by their side.
That's a lot of authority right there.
Who knows where they might be let in without any resistance ?
Gilrandir 6th Mar 2016, 11:51 PM edit delete reply
Noctis still having fun.

When did she and Maxus make nice, though? After Malati and Hrist, I'd think Maxus would be more wary of Cassians -- at least until Noctis had explained her plan and expressed her loyalties. Maybe I just missed that part?

I'm also unclear on how Maxus is on Damnatio Memoriae's comm channels. I do understand how he could be on the Praetorian and Cassian channels, and also why Noctis wouldn't use those to contact him. Sure, she could probably eventually get a message through to him, but I'd have expected more elapsed time than seems implied here.

All that aside, still fun stuff. Kudos to the creative team, and always fun to see the little twinkle in Noctis' eye.
Tokyo Rose 7th Mar 2016, 12:30 AM edit delete reply

Where did you get the impression that Maxus is on Damnatio's comm channel? Serious question, I need to know if something's gone confusing.
Gilrandir 7th Mar 2016, 1:15 AM edit delete reply
Just figuring that that was why Noctis wanted access to Damnatio's radio. Like I said, I doubt she'd be wanting to use Cassian or Praetorian channels -- and since Damnatio has already said 'hands off' Maxus, they'd probably be happy to include him. Especially once the story about his botched 'retirement party' became known.

But Timotheus has provided a link which explains the reconciliation, at least. I did read that, but it had slipped my memory. I was going to go back through the archives, but he got there first. ^_^. And it addresses comms in 1319, except for couple of minor points:

1) Kali is listening in on the Cassian band, which puts anything she hears at risk as long as she is in Decimus' company. Maxus should be trying to get off that channel ASAP.

2) Noctis offers to have her and her sisters serve as relays for comm and coordination for Maxus, but she appears to have been the primary comm node for Maxus and she _left_ him. How does that play risk/reward-wise since Maxus (the general of Princess Acantha's faction) is essentially incommunicado if she's not in shouting range of him? (Or is there another Cassian lurking unseen in the wings?) Again, Damnatio has working comms, and if Maxus hasn't been trying to get on them for at least as long as it takes Noctis to kill 48 Praetorians, he should be rethinking his tactics.

On the other hand, I suppose this could be him doing that -- in which case I'm just surprised he let Noctis get that far ahead of him.
Tokyo Rose 7th Mar 2016, 4:21 AM edit delete reply

The Cassian band is relatively short-range, and each Cassian works as a signal repeater; Kali is too far away from any other Cassians right now to be able to pick up on the channel.

Note that Maxus and Quintus have caught back up to Noctis; she wasn't that far ahead of them, well within range for Maxus to be able to talk to her with his suit's built-in comm.
Timotheus 7th Mar 2016, 12:33 AM edit delete reply

Go back to comic 1316 - Due To The Dead.
Centcomm 7th Mar 2016, 3:53 PM edit delete reply

I think Rose handled this well enough..
Gilrandir 6th Mar 2016, 11:58 PM edit delete reply
I wonder if Noctis will correct Quintus' count? After all, Captain Canoi belongs to Captain Sapiro. A girl shouldn't poach another girl's man(slaughter). ^_^
Centcomm 7th Mar 2016, 3:54 PM edit delete reply

She probably wont. Noctis does not care who gets credit.
Gilrandir 7th Mar 2016, 6:08 PM edit delete reply
Ah, CentComm. For someone with Noctis' refined sense I'd expect it to be subtly different.

It seems to me that she wouldn't care whether _she_ got credit for her accomplishments, but it would bother her to have the credit for the accomplishments of _others_ wrongly attributed to her and denied to them. Especially if they were someone she respected. ("Lady Noctis, thank you for finally freeing us from the tyranny of Prince Decimus." "With respect, it was Lord Maxus who delivered the blow, not I."). I don't see her standing silent in the above hypothetical scenario -- but I admit you and Rose know her much better than I. ^_^

But just how precise she is about such things and to whom she extends that awareness -- those are the nuances of character only revealed as the story unfolds. Nor would she necessarily feel the need to set things right immediately. She doesn't strike me as obsessive, just ... precise. Letting things unfold as they should in the fullness of time.
mjkj 7th Mar 2016, 12:03 AM edit delete reply

Ah, Maxus caught up.

...and Noctis really has a great sense of justice.


@alt text: yeah, I wonder who dared...

Lukkai 7th Mar 2016, 1:54 PM edit delete reply

So he was in fact right behind her, as we presumed.
Centcomm 7th Mar 2016, 3:55 PM edit delete reply

Yep She really does. She tends to look at things dispassionately.
anonymous coward 7th Mar 2016, 12:37 AM edit delete reply
The true test of a commander in this situation: All the options are bad. Summary execution violates every legal norm, he doesn't have lots of personnel and resources to spare for capture, and letting go convicted murderers is a bad idea. Chaining them up on the spot or knocking them out and leaving them is pretty much the same thing as murdering them considering everything is on fire. Someone want to play an appropriate quiz-show theme for this decision?

P.S. Most people busy getting sliced, stabbed, decapitated, dismembered, and eviscerated to death don't have a whole lot of attention and effort to spare for 'daring' to bleed on someone. The bleeding on Noctis was probably unintentional on the part of the slaughter victim(s) whose blood it was. The real question is... how does she, and everyone else, react to this bloody shame?
Mark_L_A 7th Mar 2016, 2:10 AM edit delete reply

There is another option AC.

Since they are criminals, and ones the Rebels would likely LOVE to see killed, by saving these two, Noctis gets their undamaged armor for later use, she also set is up for Maxus to further cement his credibility with the rebels by what he does to these two.

He can order them killed, which some may have a problem with, he can order them detained to serve out the sentences they were supposed to serve, he can order them disabled temporarily or permanently,there are just a number of different things he can do.

Noctis has given him the "Choice" of what to do with them. Plus she proves her own bonafides to the rebels that she desires to uphold the "Law" not the whims of a petty arrogant child.

eta: Cent it will be a week or so before I will know if I can bump up my patreon amount or hit paypal.
Timotheus 7th Mar 2016, 4:24 AM edit delete reply

There's always the option of, "Well, I can understand not wanting to risk your lives for the current Prince; how do you feel about risking them for Princess Acanthea? Cannon fodder has its uses and they can earn points toward better sentence conditions.
Stormwind13 7th Mar 2016, 5:55 AM edit delete reply

True Tim; however, to use said cannon fodder you need to have someone to use them ON. If Acantha wins, I don't think she is going to be in a conquering mood. I know I wouldn't trust those two amongst my civilian population either! :-7
Timotheus 7th Mar 2016, 9:39 PM edit delete reply

I was thinking more along the lines of immediate opportunities. One possibility would be proof to other preatorian units that surrender IS an option and thereby saving wear and tear on the palace infrastructure.
Matt Knab 7th Mar 2016, 4:36 AM edit delete reply

Well, jail is still better than execution!
Stormwind13 7th Mar 2016, 6:36 AM edit delete reply

Most of the time I would agree, Matt. Not always though. Falling into someone like the the Gestapo's hands would normally be a slow, incredibly painful slide into death. Better to die clean than suffer that way. If these two Praetorians were in charge of the prison (it has happened before) I know I would rather die than be subjected to their attention! :-7
Centcomm 7th Mar 2016, 3:56 PM edit delete reply

Roma also has a hard labor option but they practice capital punishment as well.
Steven-Vincent 7th Mar 2016, 6:41 AM edit delete reply

"You... accepted surrender???" I love how this is done... how it reveals something about a character in 3 words.
Centcomm 7th Mar 2016, 3:56 PM edit delete reply

hehe yes it does!
Tokyo Rose 8th Mar 2016, 3:20 AM edit delete reply

The Cassians are most commonly sent to deal with major offenders against the law and public safety, and the vast majority of the Praetorians are convicted criminals and walking violations against law, safety, and decency*. Offered the opportunity to kill them, most of the Cassians wouldn't even have hesitated. Maxus knows Noctis well, knows that she's very serious about her duty, and knows that she thoroughly loathes the Praetorians; he's just momentarily astonished that she actually held back from killing these two on the spot.

* There are a couple of Praetorians who weren't convicted of any crimes**. They're still utterly repulsive people, mind you.

** My choice of words here is quite deliberate.
Steven-Vincent 8th Mar 2016, 6:21 AM edit delete reply

Yes, and my point is that all that comes across in that one 3-word sentence.
Tokyo Rose 8th Mar 2016, 3:46 PM edit delete reply

I'm blushing over here. :)
Lukkai 8th Mar 2016, 10:43 AM edit delete reply

I guess a recently deceased captain for example was one of those "never convicted" ones.
Tokyo Rose 8th Mar 2016, 3:52 PM edit delete reply

Canoi did indeed join the Praetorians with no criminal convictions on his record. It was a great opportunity to misbehave, and he's taken full advantage of that, as suggested by that narration block a few pages back that outlined the reason why Sapiro hated him.
KarToon12 7th Mar 2016, 3:45 PM edit delete reply

I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but the General's armor looks like the Iron Monger...or the Hulkbuster. XD
Centcomm 7th Mar 2016, 5:26 PM edit delete reply

That is not unintentional :D
Zimriel 7th Mar 2016, 9:10 PM edit delete reply
And now... on this great day... I have caught up with the story.

This has been one excellent series. Please don't georgelucas this TOO much with the reboot.
Centcomm 8th Mar 2016, 2:32 AM edit delete reply

No worry's ! I have no intention of going that far! :D
Tokyo Rose 8th Mar 2016, 3:32 AM edit delete reply

Our main focus is bringing the art up to current standards, as well as correcting continuity problems. Han will still shoot first, dammit. :)
Mark_L_A 8th Mar 2016, 8:27 AM edit delete reply

Han? Since when did he get out of Carbonite?
Lukkai 8th Mar 2016, 10:45 AM edit delete reply

And now I'm imagining Noctis standing above a heap of dead praetorians in a lake of blood, making that Han-kind-of smile and saying "Sorry for the mess!"

It's totally out of character.

Also glorious.
Stormwind13 8th Mar 2016, 12:40 PM edit delete reply

That would be EPIC, Lukkai! Maybe CentComm will create it as a (non-canon) vote incentive. :-D
Tokyo Rose 8th Mar 2016, 3:52 PM edit delete reply

OMG, I love this idea, Lukkai :D
Fjolsvith 8th Mar 2016, 5:43 PM edit delete reply
I really like Maximus' armor!
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