Comic 1333 - The Guardian At The Gate

7th Apr 2016, 9:00 PM
The Guardian At The Gate
Average Rating: 5 (18 votes)
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Mark_L_A 7th Apr 2016, 9:01 PM edit delete reply

Channeling Gandalf?

Oh, and is that Kusangi? If it is she looks Soooooo much better than she did before.
Centcomm 7th Apr 2016, 9:13 PM edit delete reply

This is my version of Kusanagi Shes a bit different than roses Version. Shes been kicking around waiting to show up for almost a year now :D
Mark_L_A 7th Apr 2016, 10:49 PM edit delete reply

Uh Oh. Rose is going to kill me now isn't she?

Please don't hurt me Rose....
Tokyo Rose 8th Apr 2016, 2:17 AM edit delete reply

Kusanagi's design was a collaborative effort, it's all good :D
Lukkai 10th Apr 2016, 1:44 PM edit delete reply

She does look gorgeous.

Also competent and not like someone to be trifled with.
HiFranc 7th Apr 2016, 10:54 PM edit delete reply

Well he seems to have an interest in old pop culture.
xpacetrue 7th Apr 2016, 9:11 PM edit delete reply

PINK armor?! You put Aeneas in pink armor? This isn't a homage to Red vs. Blue, is it? It's not even April 1st...
Centcomm 7th Apr 2016, 9:14 PM edit delete reply

Its actually not pink. Its a tyrian Purple. But the bloody metallic shaders turned it pink due to the lights :D
T1-G3R2501 8th Apr 2016, 5:37 AM edit delete reply
Saying that bit about RvB makes me think. And I think Kyle's caboose in this manner. Hmm Dolly is Tex. Rose is Sarge, Hmm filling in this roster is gonna be hard
jamie59 7th Apr 2016, 9:11 PM edit delete reply

Now that's one hot Samaria.
Centcomm 7th Apr 2016, 9:14 PM edit delete reply

hehe LD
Dragonrider 7th Apr 2016, 9:37 PM edit delete reply

See you Monday for more action.
cattservant 7th Apr 2016, 10:10 PM edit delete reply

Head him off at the pass!
Stormwind13 8th Apr 2016, 8:33 AM edit delete reply

Yeah catt. I don't think he's going to get by her easily. Though even now I think they are treating him gently. I mean Kusanagi hasn't handed him his head (which after attacking Rose I kinda expected).
mjkj 7th Apr 2016, 10:57 PM edit delete reply

Wow, she is beautiful - and determined...

Aeneas, you better follow her orders...

Stormwind13 8th Apr 2016, 4:46 AM edit delete reply

Agreed mjkj, Kusanagi is beautiful here. And I see her as FIERCE! She is the military component of the Three Treasures so she should be determined. I also think she is protecting Tokyo Rose right now.

So you definitely are giving Aeneas good advice to listen to her. Sadly I don't think he is really listening to either Kusanagi or you. Probably going to get noisy and messy. :-p
chk 8th Apr 2016, 11:53 AM edit delete reply

Yep. She means it.
Gilrandir 8th Apr 2016, 12:54 AM edit delete reply
No scabbard?
Tokyo Rose 8th Apr 2016, 2:18 AM edit delete reply

Digital avatars, remember. Scabbards or the lack thereof are a minimal concern. :D
Gilrandir 8th Apr 2016, 5:12 AM edit delete reply
Thought that might be the rationale. Either that or "too many triangles", from a practical standpoint. But does that mean that, in cyberspace, Kusanagi's blade is always naked (which makes a statement), or that it disappears entirely when not in use (which would seem ... inelegant for one of the treasures), or just that the scabbard manifests in more peaceful times (which we just haven't seen yet ^_^)?

On the other hand, depending on which Hong Kong cinema you watch, the scabbard can form a significant component of your fighting style. I'm jus' sayin' is all ... ^_^
CptKerion 8th Apr 2016, 7:31 AM edit delete reply
but scabbards are awesome!
Tokyo Rose 8th Apr 2016, 3:19 PM edit delete reply

She's alert for trouble, so the blade's out and ready. If she were on guard, but not prepared to take immediate action, it would be sheathed.
Sheela 8th Apr 2016, 3:51 PM edit delete reply

Alternatively, she could simply summon the blade when she need it, and not run around with a blade out in the open when she doesn't need it.
Just_IDD 9th Apr 2016, 6:09 PM edit delete reply
To mix web comics here, Kusanagi's sword is like Oblivion, the sword wielded by MiniMax. When she lets go it vanishes. when she reaches for it a hole opens to the past to where it was released and she draws it again. No possibly for a scabbard because anything it touches is unmade.
Sheela 10th Apr 2016, 2:31 PM edit delete reply

Ah yes, MinMax from Goblins ... that is a pretty neat sword he has.
Kamy 8th Apr 2016, 2:05 AM edit delete reply

An asian she-gandalf ... much more sexy than the original, like it !
Sheela 8th Apr 2016, 3:52 PM edit delete reply

Much more sexy than Gandalf?

... not a big feat there.
CptKerion 8th Apr 2016, 7:53 AM edit delete reply
I can only imagine how much of a pain in the butt this is to do the lighting for and the backgrounds.
Tokyo Rose 8th Apr 2016, 3:22 PM edit delete reply

Cent took several weeks to build the sets and arrange the lighting for this sequence. Everybody sees the end result and praises it, but y'all don't know how much that means to Cent--we're talking hours upon hours of work just to put in details that aren't immediately obvious. And then there's the postwork, such as layering multiple renders and applying other effects. I have the comparatively easy job.
Sheela 8th Apr 2016, 3:53 PM edit delete reply

There's a reason why someone like Industrial Light and Magic charges so much to do CGI effects for movies.

It takes a lot of work!
Stormwind13 8th Apr 2016, 4:47 PM edit delete reply

Well I at least appreciate all the hard work both of you put in to entertain us. I can barely comprehend all the work CentComm puts in to make such gorgeous images. :-)
Centcomm 9th Apr 2016, 4:08 PM edit delete reply

Heheh thanks - Well you have actually seen a few of my PSD files and you were shocked at the layers :D

( some of these make me want to scream sometimes :D
Thomas 8th Apr 2016, 8:40 AM edit delete reply
I sense a digital asskicking about to commence. A de-porting if you will.
Tokyo Rose 8th Apr 2016, 3:23 PM edit delete reply

That was dreadful and hilarious.
Sheela 8th Apr 2016, 3:54 PM edit delete reply

He might even have to disconnect !
CptKerion 9th Apr 2016, 8:17 AM edit delete reply
I was trying to come up with a follow up pun to keep it rolling, but all those I thought of were either way too obscure or would just fall flat.
Gilrandir 9th Apr 2016, 9:31 AM edit delete reply
If Aeneas persists, Kusanagi will sock-et to him. She will wreak havoc on his baud, and make him pack-et in. To help the swelling go down he will need a code compress. If he were more like Decimus, she might make him stream in his pants -- but, if he did, she wouldn't brag about it afterwards, because she is discrete.
Sheela 10th Apr 2016, 2:32 PM edit delete reply

Oh .. ohh .. I liked the discrete pun. :)
Boren 8th Apr 2016, 2:16 PM edit delete reply

And we have encountered Roses first level Black Ic program I'd sit back down Aeneas, this one looks like a level 10 and I'm betting they only get worse from here.
Centcomm 10th Apr 2016, 7:15 AM edit delete reply

Kusanagi is more than a black IC Program - Shes a full AIS like him.
Stormwind13 10th Apr 2016, 8:55 AM edit delete reply

And one designed, optimized or just so inclined to military operations. Plus Kusanagi has been kept current on upgrades. Aeneas is several decades behind on those, I fear. This should be such an a$$-whopping as to not be a fight.
Gilrandir 10th Apr 2016, 10:58 AM edit delete reply
I agree that all the advantage is with Kusanagi if it comes to a fight. She's in full health, is completely prepared, is informed about her opponent's capabilities and vulnerabilities, occupies a superior (defensive) position, and has ready access to allies if she needs them. None of these things seems to be true for Aeneas. Technology may actually be a push since really old systems (like CentComm and Tokyo Rose and Deep Blue) seem more powerful and more capable than relatively new A.I.S. Also, we don't know how old the Treasures actually are and how tolerant their design is of incremental upgrade.

However, if it comes to a fight, the Treasures have already lost. Kusanagi's objective is likely to be _not_ to fight, merely to hold Aeneas long enough for the repairs to complete. Recall that the objective is to heal him, not demonstrate one's superior firepower by beating up on an already crippled A.I.S. Maybe she should suggest that the two of them row out to a small island in the digital stream and have their duel there? ^_^

If the two were both healthy, who would win in a fight is something known only to the creatrixes. Even if we grant Kusanagi some degree of technology advantage, don't forget the issue of their underlying mainframes. As far as I can tell, size does matter. Aeneas, when fully healthy, has a brain the size of a city-state and vast resources. I don't think we've been told what is hosting the Treasures, but if it's a doll-sized chassis, the mainframe-hosted A.I.S. might well come out on top. (Of course, under those circumstances, it would probably be much easier for the doll-hosted A.I.S. to just retreat out of range and come up with a different plan. Cities are not known for their foot speed in pursuit -- and any remotely dispatched units would no doubt be easy meat for a locally present A.I.S.)
Sheela 10th Apr 2016, 2:34 PM edit delete reply

When it comes to sheer size, I think she can match him, she is a fully fledged AIS.

Aeneas have one thing going for him though, unpredictability.
Gilrandir 10th Apr 2016, 3:45 PM edit delete reply
Possibly ... do we know in how many sizes A.I.S. come in? And whether or not size matters is just conjecture on my part -- but it seems reasonable given the way A.I.S. talk to each other about each other.

I mean, isn't a sparked doll just a very small A.I.S.?
Sheela 10th Apr 2016, 6:26 PM edit delete reply

No, I don't think so.
It's an AI, but not an AIS, the AIS's are buildt to service many concurrent users, while the AI of a doll is just a single user.

If I got the terminology correct - I could be wrong, I'm not one of the creators after all.
Gilrandir 10th Apr 2016, 6:38 PM edit delete reply
I agree with you, @Sheela, that it seems as if colloquial usage for "A.I.S." seems to be only for big, impressive, distributed installations, but I'm not sure if that's a difference of degree, or of kind.

I'm not sure that your way of measuring A.I. 'size' is correct though. As much as we all want to know just how many 'users' Tokyo Rose can 'service' simultaneously, I'm afraid those data files are locked in File 201. And I'm pretty sure that Aeneas' avatar might well have to be reworked with extra peripheral connections. ^_^

I don't think of A.I.S. as having 'users'. It seems to me the closest thing they have are 'purposes' or 'agendas' or 'missions'. And then, within the scope of those definitions they have 'clients' or 'constituents' or 'wards' and 'everybody else'. Subject, of course, to the notion that Mankind is endlessly inventive, so that saying "You can't build an A.I.S. to work _this_ way" is immediately taken as a challenge by someone to prove that statement wrong. Rule 34 suggests that there is at least one A.I.S. created or under construction dedicated exclusively to the production of ever-increasing quantities of porn. ^_^
Sheela 11th Apr 2016, 7:47 AM edit delete reply

Whoa hey now, Rose will be mad as hell if you try to steal her porn!

Also, being a telecomm technician, I can tall you that the difference of capability between an in building telephone central, versus a a public telephone central, is as huge as the difference between a Doll AI and an AIS - Brute Force is a thing.
Nef 8th Apr 2016, 3:12 PM edit delete reply

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She's just going to draw the line...
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Lukkai 10th Apr 2016, 1:47 PM edit delete reply

Along his chest, if necessary.
Sheela 10th Apr 2016, 6:26 PM edit delete reply

*pulls out permanent marker*

:D
KarToon12 8th Apr 2016, 5:02 PM edit delete reply

I don't remember Gandalf having blue hair. XD
Sheela 8th Apr 2016, 11:25 PM edit delete reply
CptKerion 9th Apr 2016, 12:07 AM edit delete reply
Prediction: she means Tolkien, he takes it Monty.
Matt Knab 8th Apr 2016, 5:21 PM edit delete reply

May I...exchange tiles?
Centcomm 9th Apr 2016, 5:38 PM edit delete reply

hehe dont like the set you got eh?
CptKerion 9th Apr 2016, 12:01 AM edit delete reply
You know my prediction about someone getting punched this page? Making the same one about next page.
Timotheus 9th Apr 2016, 12:17 AM edit delete reply

And you know darn well he'll get confused over his favorite color.
(It's sad but I have no idea what a lot of the more modern game references are. The last electronic game I personally played this dog kept laughing at me when I missed.)
HiFranc 11th Apr 2016, 12:49 AM edit delete reply

This page must have lodged into my mind subconsciously (especially the Tolkein references). On Sunday, whilst waiting for a grocery deliverhy (and feeling quite hungry), I was thinking thoughts such as, "Me wantss sandwichess -- dirty hobitsess keeping it away from me."
Sheela 11th Apr 2016, 7:47 AM edit delete reply

Darn those hobitsess!
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