So far So cliffhangery, I do note his fists are half clenched as though he is ready to defend himself with physical violence if needed. If Rose has matter transport as this indicates, why the hell did she need all this and wait this long to repair Aeneas?
"If Rose has matter transport as this indicates, why the hell did she need all this and wait this long to repair Aeneas?"
If we were to refer to Aeneas, Cent-Comm, or any other AIS "in person", then we would probably be talking about their "doll" or android-like robot puppet. This gives them use of a body. Without those, they have none. We've seen the single doll that Aeneas has left and it has cosmetic damage. It doesn't look quite like this.
Essentially, AIS are god-like AI that inhabit huge supercomputers. These last few pages are showing us what is happening in cyberspace or some sort of virtual environment. When Aeneas stepped through the "gate" to visit Rose's place, it was actually his consciousness being connected over the 'net to her literal domain.
Yes symbolically. Aeneas's " Actual physical doll is standing around doing nothing.
WHat you are seeing here is how Aeneas perceives himself. And that can change moment by moment the environment changes due to the system they are in or due to the will of the programmer or program thats running :D
The " tronic. Interface is one of the basic "defaults" as it is very low detail wise and easy for systems to handle. Rose is using it because most of her system is running hard core dong other things.
"What you are seeing here is how Aeneas perceives himself. And that can change moment by moment the environment changes due to the system they are in or due to the will of the programmer or program thats running :D "
A bit conceited one might say, as he is picturing himself as a Regal Ruler with a golden crown.
"A bit conceited one might say, as he is picturing himself as a Regal Ruler with a golden crown."
Perhaps. Or, maybe this is an avatar that "Onee-san" (Kunasagi) or one of the other AIS that helped create him gave him. For all we know, it may be his default avatar from when he came online. Or something connected with a certain memory.
Also, remember that Aeneas hasn't been himself for a -very- long time. Already, he sounds much better.
Besides, Aeneas was designed to be the AIS for Nova Roma. He many not be the actual ruler. But, his role was to protect the city-state and help humans in various ways. (Among other things, he ran the city's climate-control system. When he was disabled, it stopped working.)
Cent-Comm is pretty much the heart and soul of New Troy. That is, she seems more-or-less essential. Like Nova Roma, New Troy has a human government. But Cent-Comm seems to have significant power and influence. When Cent-Comm speaks to foreigners, I get the impression that she more-or-less represents New Troy itself.
I think Aeneas' role was similar. Maybe Nova Romans' bias and fear of AI played a role in what happened. But, it was my understanding that they tried to destroy him because he refused to turn over all the weapons he had, so the humans could continue to wage war.
Just saying that, personally, I don't see the crown as being out of place. I mean, is a crown out of place on the head of the Statue of Liberty? His crown looks like a golden wreath of olive branches. That fits with the Ancient Roman style that Nova Romans embrace.
@xspacetrue, to me Aeneas' circlet looks like a gilded triumph of laurel, such as the ancient Romans awarded to victorious generals and athletes. Not so much a 'crown', per se.
@xspacetrue, to me Aeneas' circlet looks like a gilded triumph of laurel, such as the ancient Romans awarded to victorious generals and athletes. Not so much a 'crown', per se.
Aeneas did not exist at the time of the wars that the A.I.s put an end to. Aurelian Livius launched a coup to seize complete executive control of New Rome, and Aeneas was in the way...
I'm sorry Centy, but I simply HAVE to invoice you for another keyboard after reading your last sentence. I know, it's usually Rose that sends coffee out my nose, but YOU did it this time (even though it's such a tiny typo, "her system is running hard core dong" is just too funny)...
Metaphorical avatar. If this was represented as code we wouldn't be able to keep up with what's going on or cath any of the subtleties. Instant matter transportation does not exist here.
And I'm pretty sure that the AIs are used to using avatars and use them for communications between each other.
There is no actual physical transport going on here. this is all over wireless and cables. It just looks like hes porting over. But its really a glorified long distance call.
Ever had a feeling that Hard Core Dong was an American 90s third rate action hero intended to portray an individual of Oriental descent as an action hero doing Rambo-esque things?
This is the AI/cyberspace equivalent of a naughty child being sent to the principal's office. Aeneas still has a bit of arrogance left, but Rose will soon relieve him of that burden. If she were to make with the profanity, would Aeneas even understand what she was saying? He has been out of circulation for a while.
Possibly Dragonrider. Or she could present herself that way trying to gain some sympathy from Aeneas. At least long enough to talk him out of attacking her again. Plus Kusanagi is lurking nearby to deal with him should he turn frisky.
I'm not sure why. Either Rose believes Aeneas was, or was not responsible for his actions. If he was, then apparently that says some unflattering things about his character which are not supported by his post-restore behavior and Rose _might_ lash out in turn -- but then she'd have no reason to receive him into her 'space'. If he was _not_ responsible for his actions by reason of mental defect, then it would say things about _Rose's_ character should she choose to use that opportunity to abuse him anyway now that he is back in his "right mind" -- and we haven't seen any indications to justify that outcome either.
I suspect Rose reserves profanity for what she considers 'teachable moments'. From her perspective she is so vastly more omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent than anyone else that she likely considers indulging in petty cruelty to be beneath her. Everyone else is just children and infants to her, of some of which she is more fond than others. Profanity is the 'ruler' or the 'switch' she seems to use to make sure people are paying attention and to signal that their behavior is not up to her expectations. Indications are that she didn't have high expectations of Aeneas during the reboot process, so why use profanity?
At the very end of the interview, after Aeneas has been informed of his misbehavior, she _might_ toss a few unprintable epithets his way if she wishes to reassure him that their relationship is "back where it was" -- assuming she was accustomed to use such language during prior 'teachable moments' of Aeneas. That she still considers him capable of 'improvement' (whatever that may mean to her) and will signal that with profanity (or even roughhousing) will likely depend on their prior relationship.
My suspicion is that this is going to be a teachable moment, thusly, figurative punch grade withering verbal barrage as we have seen liberally applied elsewhere.
If I remember correctly, Aeneas trusted Aurelian Livius and was almost destroyed by giving that trust. I would think he is a bit more apprehensive when trusting anyone at the moment.
Watch your back!
If we were to refer to Aeneas, Cent-Comm, or any other AIS "in person", then we would probably be talking about their "doll" or android-like robot puppet. This gives them use of a body. Without those, they have none. We've seen the single doll that Aeneas has left and it has cosmetic damage. It doesn't look quite like this.
Essentially, AIS are god-like AI that inhabit huge supercomputers. These last few pages are showing us what is happening in cyberspace or some sort of virtual environment. When Aeneas stepped through the "gate" to visit Rose's place, it was actually his consciousness being connected over the 'net to her literal domain.
At least, that's the way I understand it...
WHat you are seeing here is how Aeneas perceives himself. And that can change moment by moment the environment changes due to the system they are in or due to the will of the programmer or program thats running :D
The " tronic. Interface is one of the basic "defaults" as it is very low detail wise and easy for systems to handle. Rose is using it because most of her system is running hard core dong other things.
A bit conceited one might say, as he is picturing himself as a Regal Ruler with a golden crown.
Perhaps. Or, maybe this is an avatar that "Onee-san" (Kunasagi) or one of the other AIS that helped create him gave him. For all we know, it may be his default avatar from when he came online. Or something connected with a certain memory.
Also, remember that Aeneas hasn't been himself for a -very- long time. Already, he sounds much better.
Besides, Aeneas was designed to be the AIS for Nova Roma. He many not be the actual ruler. But, his role was to protect the city-state and help humans in various ways. (Among other things, he ran the city's climate-control system. When he was disabled, it stopped working.)
Cent-Comm is pretty much the heart and soul of New Troy. That is, she seems more-or-less essential. Like Nova Roma, New Troy has a human government. But Cent-Comm seems to have significant power and influence. When Cent-Comm speaks to foreigners, I get the impression that she more-or-less represents New Troy itself.
I think Aeneas' role was similar. Maybe Nova Romans' bias and fear of AI played a role in what happened. But, it was my understanding that they tried to destroy him because he refused to turn over all the weapons he had, so the humans could continue to wage war.
Just saying that, personally, I don't see the crown as being out of place. I mean, is a crown out of place on the head of the Statue of Liberty? His crown looks like a golden wreath of olive branches. That fits with the Ancient Roman style that Nova Romans embrace.
Aeneas did not exist at the time of the wars that the A.I.s put an end to. Aurelian Livius launched a coup to seize complete executive control of New Rome, and Aeneas was in the way...
And I'm pretty sure that the AIs are used to using avatars and use them for communications between each other.
Specifically, Hard Core Dong's ?
Or an axemurderer ?
Or a serial killer ?
Or maybe he was even a ... Banker !
I suspect Rose reserves profanity for what she considers 'teachable moments'. From her perspective she is so vastly more omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent than anyone else that she likely considers indulging in petty cruelty to be beneath her. Everyone else is just children and infants to her, of some of which she is more fond than others. Profanity is the 'ruler' or the 'switch' she seems to use to make sure people are paying attention and to signal that their behavior is not up to her expectations. Indications are that she didn't have high expectations of Aeneas during the reboot process, so why use profanity?
At the very end of the interview, after Aeneas has been informed of his misbehavior, she _might_ toss a few unprintable epithets his way if she wishes to reassure him that their relationship is "back where it was" -- assuming she was accustomed to use such language during prior 'teachable moments' of Aeneas. That she still considers him capable of 'improvement' (whatever that may mean to her) and will signal that with profanity (or even roughhousing) will likely depend on their prior relationship.
"Doorbell out of order. Please knock."
Also, "Goddamn entitled kids, I swear..." Priceless :-)