Comic 1377 - Making Amends

14th Jul 2016, 9:00 PM
Making Amends
Average Rating: 5 (21 votes)

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Centcomm 17th Jul 2016, 9:02 AM edit delete
Centcomm
back in the hospital they are going to be doing a angiogram and possably putting in a stent ... NOT a happy camper
Tokyo Rose 17th Jul 2016, 4:39 PM edit delete
Tokyo Rose
Just got back from visiting the hospital. Post-Angiogram Stoned And Scared Terri said she was told that the blood vessels aren't suitable to take a stent, and a bypass is probably going to be necessary. Then she conked out in the middle of a sentence telling me where to find her favorite stuffed cat toy (she wants it for company at the hospital). Further updates will be provided as information becomes available.
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Dragonrider 14th Jul 2016, 9:01 PM edit delete reply

Dammit hate it sometimes if I am right. It appears she is physically going into the stand alone system to plant the spike, when it goes she goes no escape.
DLKmusic 15th Jul 2016, 2:08 AM edit delete reply

There's still hope, Dragonrider. Rose might be able to keep the portal open long enough for CeCi to return once the spike is fully deployed.

That's what I'm hoping for anyway... I still want to put on my dancing shoes, seein as how I went to all the trouble to pull them out of the closet n'all
CptKerion 15th Jul 2016, 10:35 PM edit delete reply
or Ceci might now be in charge of Nova Roma's weapon systems. Who knows.
Dragonrider 16th Jul 2016, 3:44 PM edit delete reply

Now that would be all kinds of a Karma bites you in the ass. Can see the next message Centcomm receives, "Hey Bitch, it's Ceci. Remember me?? I didn't appreciate all that slag software you stuffed in me almost made me get my Mommy killed. Guess what Bitch I'm in charge of Nova Roma weapon systems, the brand new updated ones that have perfect stealth. Check Six Bitch hope you don't piss me off again, or Rose and I will come over for Brunch.
DLKmusic 16th Jul 2016, 6:45 PM edit delete reply
Hmmm... TR giving CeCi lessons in creative profanity????

Centcomm 16th Jul 2016, 10:36 PM edit delete reply

Meeeeow!!!
Sheela 17th Jul 2016, 2:02 AM edit delete reply

ooOooohh .. Brunch! :D
mjkj 14th Jul 2016, 9:01 PM edit delete reply

Yayyy, go CeCi!!! ♡
Mark_L_A 14th Jul 2016, 9:03 PM edit delete reply

Methinks Rose is very Miffed at C3
Visvires 14th Jul 2016, 9:16 PM edit delete reply
The Nightmare will be visiting Soon.
Sheela 15th Jul 2016, 6:09 AM edit delete reply

Wait, what ?
I'm supposed to visit ?
jamie59 15th Jul 2016, 7:18 PM edit delete reply

Licking is not nightmare material Sheela.
Haegan2005 15th Jul 2016, 7:46 PM edit delete reply

Does eating my slippers count as nightmare material?
CptKerion 15th Jul 2016, 8:26 PM edit delete reply
Only if they were very nice slippers.
Sheela 16th Jul 2016, 12:13 AM edit delete reply

I'M COMING TO EAT YOUR SOUL!!

Does that count ?
Rashala 16th Jul 2016, 12:54 AM edit delete reply

ROSE is miffed........I am waaaayyyyyy past miffed
Nerd 16th Jul 2016, 2:09 AM edit delete reply
*sole
DLKmusic 16th Jul 2016, 7:04 AM edit delete reply

It's ok, Sheela... I'm terrified... *pats Sheela's head*

The Slobber, Oh Lord the slobber, PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!!!
Gilrandir 16th Jul 2016, 9:04 AM edit delete reply
Is @Sheela the Ever-lovin' Brown-eyed Thing From Another World? Is her battle cry "It's Slobberin' Time!"?
DLKmusic 16th Jul 2016, 3:22 PM edit delete reply
ROFL, Gil!
Dragonrider 16th Jul 2016, 3:47 PM edit delete reply

The sole of the slippers?
Wolfsbane 17th Jul 2016, 7:06 AM edit delete reply

Yes! She's here for your sooooooooouulllll!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6Z9KqjSOko
ProfEtheric 14th Jul 2016, 9:11 PM edit delete reply

Oh boy... I wouldn't want to be in Centcomm's place (the character, not the artist... <3 you Centy!)
Gilrandir 14th Jul 2016, 9:44 PM edit delete reply
Actually, CentComm does have a perfect comeback to Rose's line. Depending on how confrontational that scene ends up being -- and it is worthy of note that no matter how many misadventures there were along the way and how many close calls there were, when the final results are tallied, the spike apparently will end up helping -- CentComm may always respond thusly:

"Perhaps. But I do not answer to you."

Then she can go have another shoulder cry with Calliope in private. ^_^
MirrorField 14th Jul 2016, 11:42 PM edit delete reply
"Psst. Lynn, when you next go face to face with CentComm, say these words: 'Execute Helios protocol. Command Authorization Omega Parasol Faraday Bluebird.'"
Centcomm 14th Jul 2016, 11:55 PM edit delete reply

hehe.. ok thats funny
Haegan2005 15th Jul 2016, 7:46 PM edit delete reply

I love that comeback!
The Old Scribe 14th Jul 2016, 9:13 PM edit delete reply

Well, Hell, it looks like CiCi's making a kamikaze attack with the spike on the stand alone Doomsday System. This cannot end well. Dammit, I LIKE CICI! If she dies, I'm gonna be mightily pissed off.
cattservant 14th Jul 2016, 9:23 PM edit delete reply

Traveling without moving...
cattservant 14th Jul 2016, 9:27 PM edit delete reply

TR said "... my city..."
Centcomm 14th Jul 2016, 9:32 PM edit delete reply

actually that was aeneras...
Gilrandir 14th Jul 2016, 9:35 PM edit delete reply
Actually, it looks like that word balloon belongs to Aeneas. The difference in color is subtle, but I believe it is there. It also makes more sense, then, for her to be acknowledging Aeneas in the next panel.
cattservant 15th Jul 2016, 12:27 AM edit delete reply

Colorblind old catt...
Guest 14th Jul 2016, 9:39 PM edit delete reply
TR didn't say that. That's Aeneas' font. I believe he's the only one who speaks in.. that is New Roman, yes?
Gilrandir 14th Jul 2016, 9:48 PM edit delete reply
Oooh! Oooh! Is there a city state somewhere in the world of DataChasers named 'Dingbats'? What do their word balloons look like? ^_^
Tokyo Rose 15th Jul 2016, 4:38 PM edit delete reply

Aeneas's font is called "Quattrocentro Roman". :D
Dragonrider 16th Jul 2016, 3:49 PM edit delete reply

Most appropriate, as I'm sure that there isn't one for Nova Roma.
TheSkulker 15th Jul 2016, 12:43 AM edit delete reply

It's Aeneas. Look at the color of the bubble border.

Datachasers speech bubbles are deliberately unique for each character: shape, border color, background color, font. Fonts (actually typefaces), are more subtle but colors and shapes are distinctive: Red for TR, Purple for Aeneas, green background for CeCi. Extremely useful for off screen characters.

EDIT: Also note the styles differ: All caps (TR); Sentence case (Aeneas, CeCi).
Centcomm 15th Jul 2016, 1:51 AM edit delete reply

note all ( most ) humans have the same kind of font and color most machines and andriods have color diffrent fonts
Sheela 15th Jul 2016, 6:11 AM edit delete reply

New Rome changes name to Dingbats ? :D
Timotheus 15th Jul 2016, 1:19 AM edit delete reply

SHE-HULK CRUSH PUNY PROGRAMS! (Right after Pony Show.)
TheSkulker 15th Jul 2016, 1:24 AM edit delete reply

In Monday's strip, Aeneas acknowledges that he cannot access the contingencies but TR states that the spike can - implying that she knows where they are.

In Wednesday's strip, TR explicitly states that she can now "get at them".

In today's strip, TR has apparently opened a cyberspace portal to the contingencies for CeCi to traverse.

I guess I missed where/how TR found out and why she couldn't open the portal earlier. Help please.
Centcomm 15th Jul 2016, 1:49 AM edit delete reply

shes bridging the gap the same way doctor silver did.. via cyberpathy.
TheSkulker 15th Jul 2016, 2:30 AM edit delete reply

But why can she now and not before? What is different?

Or is this an area that shouldn't be delved into very deeply?
Stormwind13 15th Jul 2016, 3:03 AM edit delete reply

The difference (I see) is that Rose is no longer fighting CeCi! While CeCi was opposing her, she had to spend energy keeping CeCi's attacks blunted which prevented her from using her abilities like that.
mjkj 15th Jul 2016, 4:39 AM edit delete reply

Somewhat true, Stormwind, though you have to add that Rose now has full root access to Aeneas and therefore can use his connections into the city where the contingencies are located since Aeneas is (still somewhat) integrated into New Rome (he can at least see and hear anything in the palace - though cannot do anything there - which should be enough for Rose to connect to doomsday device™...)

Stormwind13 15th Jul 2016, 10:31 AM edit delete reply

Possibly valid, mjkj. I don't know though, since Aeneas said he couldn't reach it, I was thinking his accesses weren't helping that much. :-)
Tokyo Rose 15th Jul 2016, 4:27 PM edit delete reply

Delving here is fine. :D

The main reason why the situation's suddenly different for Tokyo Rose is that Aeneas granted her core access, which (as mjkj noted) is giving her a more stable connection to work with as well as having much more ROOM to work in, virtually speaking. That's part of what freed her up to go directly to Ceci, kick Watchdog into the corner, and "restore" Ceci's personality. Halting the deliberate attack, as Stormwind remarked, meant Tokyo Rose isn't having to fight Ceci.
HiFranc 15th Jul 2016, 1:56 AM edit delete reply

One of the things she has to answer for is creating a fully sparked android and sending her on a suicide mission.

Before everyone piles in and says that that she was not meant to be -- she has over a 1,000 years experience so should have been aware of that possibility (even probability).
Timotheus 15th Jul 2016, 2:37 AM edit delete reply

A thousand years of experience has no bearing when dealing with billion to one chances of things that are not supposed to be possible in the first place. Centcom was unaware of the possibility because the previous 1000 years of technological development had been to make sure that Black Angels were foolproof and failsafe. That Ceci's unique circumstances would somehow allow her shell personality to penetrate into her working programs and begin to assimilate them into a sparked individual was beyond Centcom's comprehension (or the rest of the new troy command staff's). (weaponized toaster)
highlander55 15th Jul 2016, 5:55 AM edit delete reply

Cent-Comm was surprised Ceci sparked from what I remember. Can she be held fully accountable for building a Black Angel that did spark. She is the first Black Angel that was not linked to Cent-Comm due to being not in contact range. I remember reading (a long time ago) "What will be Shall be".
Dragonrider 15th Jul 2016, 6:50 AM edit delete reply

What she has to answer for is trying to make a clone of herself to run Nova Roma, allowing Lynn to be in the position she is in, the fact Ceci is playing Suicide Sally rather than protecting Dolly and Lynn, plus being a general snobbish pain in the ass bitch.
Tokyo Rose 15th Jul 2016, 4:36 PM edit delete reply

I repeat again: ALL ANDROIDS THAT WE'VE SHOWN OR WILL SHOW ARE SPARKED. YES, EVEN BLACK AND WHITE ANGELS. An un-sparked machine is a robot, not an android. (Characters in the comic, like Dr. Silver and Marcus, sometimes misuse the terminology because that's how actual people talk. My dedication to making the dialogue work right has bitten me in the ass here.)

Ceci is an aberration among Black Angels because her personality has developed independently. Black and White Angels are made with a persona template in place to direct their psychological development. Ceci's situation as a "rushed job" allowed variables that are normally excluded to enter the equation and affect the outcome to an unacceptable degree, from a practical perspective.

And Dragonrider's right that one of the things Cent-Comm has to answer for (in Tokyo Rose's opinion) is attempting a forcible takeover of New Rome by murdering Aeneas and replacing him with a clone of herself.

@highlander55
You might be confusing Black Angels with what are called "dolls". Dolls are robot bodies that the AIs link to and use as physical presences. They have no intelligence (or even the potential of intelligence) on their own; they're robot platforms mounting sel-cast receivers.
Gilrandir 15th Jul 2016, 10:48 PM edit delete reply
So, what is the retirement plan for a Black Angel if they survive completing their mission? Does the mission pay off their body debt? After all the classified MIL-SPEC hardware is removed, do they even have a leg to stand on? ^_^
Sheela 16th Jul 2016, 12:27 AM edit delete reply

That's actually an interesting question, what is the plan for Black Angels when they return ?
Or is it simply so unusual that she wants to be someone on her own, that it has never come up before ?

And I still think a lot of Centcomm's hidden desires ended up becoming CeCi :
- her desire to travel the world and see it
- her desire to be intimately connected to someone (mommy)
- her desire to be independant and not tied down to one place

Centcomm seems to have many desires that she has trouble to fulfill as an AIS, and CeCi seems to be the answer to them - She Mini-Me Centcomm style.
Guest 16th Jul 2016, 3:33 PM edit delete reply
I think you are onto something here.
Tokyo Rose 16th Jul 2016, 12:46 AM edit delete reply

Black (and White) Angels don't have body debt, because they're custom-built to meet specific job requirements rather than "generically" produced, as is the case for the majority of androids.

Black Angels don't retire; they aren't suited for civilian life, since they were never designed to function as normal individuals. The ones who return are kept in reserve for future missions, but between the hazardous nature of the work and the mentally damaging effects of the skill package load-outs, they don't tend to last all that long.

(Yes, this has some extremely creepy and horrible implications. Have fun running with those.)
Gilrandir 16th Jul 2016, 12:53 AM edit delete reply
Someone in the DataChasers world is going to write a science fiction novel from the viewpoint of the original personality template donor for the Angels, and they're going to call it "Altered Chrome". (Reference Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan.) ^_^
Gilrandir 16th Jul 2016, 12:45 AM edit delete reply
In a completely different slant on the same question ... If all android beings are individuals in their own right, what is the doctrinal basis for the Church of the First Circuit associating them with the Sons of Martha? (Reference Comic 63 -- The Sons of Martha). Or is the division along other than species lines?
Tokyo Rose 16th Jul 2016, 12:55 AM edit delete reply

Because androids were originally created to serve humanity. Kipling's poem honors the courage, skill, and resourcefulness of those who choose to provide for and protect others. The Church of the First Circuit has adopted a philosophy that all thinking beings are "in service" to a greater purpose.
Gilrandir 16th Jul 2016, 1:06 AM edit delete reply
Ah, ok. Thank you. I was erroneously assuming the Church of the First Circuit was primarily for androids only.
Tokyo Rose 16th Jul 2016, 4:56 PM edit delete reply

@Gilrandir

Androids formed and are still the majority of the faithful of the Church of the First Circuit, but it's not exclusive; humans are also to be found among the congregation.
DLKmusic 16th Jul 2016, 3:28 PM edit delete reply
I have to thank you again for introducing me to that Poem, Rose. I've shared it with several other people since I first read it here, and each time I do, My mind gets blown again (excuse the hippyism), and each time it's brought comfort to someone who has felt stressed out and unappreciated for their hard work.
Sheela 16th Jul 2016, 4:34 PM edit delete reply

Besides, the Sons of Mary knows that Angels are on their side, and CeCi is a Black Angel, so it should work out just fine, yes ?
Tokyo Rose 16th Jul 2016, 4:57 PM edit delete reply

@DLKMusic

Very glad to hear it :)
Gilrandir 16th Jul 2016, 5:19 PM edit delete reply
@DLKMusic, I also was first introduced to "The Sons of Martha" here and I agree with you that it is good stuff. However, there isn't much Kipling at all that isn't good. If you haven't already seen it, let me recommend to you Kipling's "Hymn of the Breaking Strain". May it provide to you a light, in dark times.
Guest 16th Jul 2016, 6:53 PM edit delete reply
Just read Hymn of Breaking strain, and to be honest, I have mixed feelings about it.

On one hand the message "if you fall of that bike, you better damn well get right back on it" sings through loud and clear.

On the other hand, I'm thinking "Hey! let's try this whole "tower of Babel" thing again, what could possibly go wrong!

as to the latter, I'm a firm believer in 2 statements.
1: The Dice of the Gods are Loaded...
3: If you REALLY want to make GOD laugh, tell him your plans...
DLKmusic 16th Jul 2016, 6:55 PM edit delete reply
Oops, that was me
Wolfsbane 17th Jul 2016, 7:12 AM edit delete reply

Yep, well known Yiddish proverb - Der mentsh trakht un Got lakht. (Man plans, God laughs)
Dragonrider 17th Jul 2016, 12:38 PM edit delete reply

@Guest; According to some sects The Divine already knows your plans, while some say your path is cast in stone and you cannot vary it.
The Dice Are Loaded about covers it. To quote Stan Lee,"'Nuff Said".
Mark_L_A 16th Jul 2016, 9:06 PM edit delete reply

CentComm stated that when Dolly was going off on this mission that she was going to send one of her "Dolls". since it wouldn't work outside of SelCast Range, CentComm had to do some really fast engineering and she had to "Cheat" a few things to get it all inside CeCi's housing. She probably took a Black Angel as the baseline, but her 'cheats' are what allowed CeCi to break through and Spark a new personality that subsumed the base "Black Angel" personality which was originally imprinted.

If/When CeCi returns to Troy, and CentComm goes to debrief her, she will probably be surprised to find this wholly new Sparked Individual, instead of the programmed personality she sent out.
Centcomm 16th Jul 2016, 9:54 PM edit delete reply

ACtually the whole "doll' thing was poor writing on our part. we are currently reworking that part of the beginning. Dolly is being told that cent is sending a " Agent Android " so that when later she finds out Ceci is a black angel the story still fits together.

Sorry about that.
Mark_L_A 16th Jul 2016, 10:19 PM edit delete reply

'Tis alright. You're just giving us more to dissect and analyze here in the comment section.

Any idea when you will update the first draft datachasers site?
Centcomm 16th Jul 2016, 10:40 PM edit delete reply

uhhh ... when i get around to it... they arnt considered cannon anymore.
Sheela 17th Jul 2016, 2:05 AM edit delete reply

You shot them out of a cannon ?

Radical!
sigpig 15th Jul 2016, 7:42 AM edit delete reply

Two things:

Panel 2: CiCi butt (dat ass)!
Alt-text: So they want to take a long, spike-shaped thing into a portal - that has TEETH?!?
Gilrandir 15th Jul 2016, 7:52 AM edit delete reply
Lots of people want to put their "spike-shaped thing" into a portal that has teeth ... but it's considered polite to buy it dinner first. ^_^
Dragonrider 16th Jul 2016, 3:58 PM edit delete reply

BOO~HISS Get Da Rotten Tomatoes and Eggs.
T1-G3R2501 15th Jul 2016, 9:11 AM edit delete reply
Seeing that last panel I can't help but think of the First Avengers movie when Tony stark Flies the missile to the portal to blow up the invading forces
Stormwind13 15th Jul 2016, 9:38 AM edit delete reply

Didn't think of that myself, T1-G3R. Now that you caused me think about it, I can see it. CeCi is WAY cuter than Tony Stark though. :-)
Dragonrider 16th Jul 2016, 4:16 PM edit delete reply

Another one, Independence Day where the pilot that had been abducted flew up the aliens landing beam. Blowing up the mother ship.
Centcomm 16th Jul 2016, 8:04 PM edit delete reply

heh i didnt even think of that.. but yes it does bear a resemblance to those two scenes.
Matt Knab 15th Jul 2016, 1:07 PM edit delete reply

Time to make things right!
Centcomm 16th Jul 2016, 8:03 PM edit delete reply

Yep.. time to make it right.
Romfire 16th Jul 2016, 8:45 PM edit delete reply
TR had her avatar destroyed and was back in the game a few min. later. If Ceci gets her avatar destroyed in the other system, would she be in any danger?
Centcomm 16th Jul 2016, 8:48 PM edit delete reply

well that is a good question.. wonder what would happen in that case.
Mark_L_A 16th Jul 2016, 8:59 PM edit delete reply

TR had a complete backup array to help her maintain herself. CeCi doesn't, so I"m worrying she might take some damage.
Johninaustin 17th Jul 2016, 9:19 AM edit delete reply
I just have one question, who is going to end up in possession CiCi's physical body? The Black Angel or Cici? It's still plugged into the system somewhere, right?

Don't worry about the stent, You'll be amazed at how much better you will feel after getting it.
Centcomm 17th Jul 2016, 9:48 AM edit delete reply

ill make no bones about it im terrified...
Stormwind13 17th Jul 2016, 9:55 AM edit delete reply

Hospitals are scary places. Please remember though that the Doctors are there to help you get better.

Also you have a bunch of people that care about you (and your wonderful story and artwork :-D). So you aren't alone, even if we aren't physically there right now. :-)
Dragonrider 17th Jul 2016, 12:49 PM edit delete reply

I think, by now, the Docs have told you two reduced dose aspirin every day. If not ask that does help prevent or reduce severity of future heart attacks by thinning the blood. Much better than the alternative meds.
Stormwind13 17th Jul 2016, 9:21 AM edit delete reply

Sorry to hear about your return to the hospital, Terri. Lots of warm thoughts, prayers your way. Please take care.
Centcomm 17th Jul 2016, 9:49 AM edit delete reply

thank you storm...
Dragonrider 17th Jul 2016, 12:56 PM edit delete reply

Angiogram and stent are much better than Bypass and much quicker to recover from. Suggest you reduce stress levels, cut posting back to two a week your health is important. You said arc is posted for updates, consider taking a month or 6 weeks off the recover when this arc finishes. We are worried about you.
DLKmusic 17th Jul 2016, 3:36 PM edit delete reply
I want to echo what Dragonrider said. We ARE worried about you, and it won't kill us if we miss a few updates, or have to deal with the next arc updating twice a week instead of 3 times!

For now, your mantra needs to be "Terri comes first!"
jamie59 17th Jul 2016, 2:47 PM edit delete reply

Terri Do what the Docs say. Hope you feel better soon!
Stormwind13 17th Jul 2016, 5:07 PM edit delete reply

Well that isn't the news I was hoping for.

::HUGS:: Please take care. Keep Luxor nearby (since they won't let Aslan in hospital).

Prayers that Doctors get you back on your feet and dancing quickly. :-)
Speedy Marsh 3rd Apr 2017, 7:44 PM edit delete reply
Knock 'em dead, Ceci!

https://youtu.be/0w6Nh8XuEFg
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