Comic 1385 - End Of Line

31st Jul 2016, 9:00 PM
End Of Line
Average Rating: 5 (26 votes)

Author Notes:

Centcomm 31st Jul 2016, 9:37 PM edit delete
Centcomm
Music for the scene ... Pink Floyd- Goodbye Blue Sky [Video]
Centcomm 25th Oct 2016, 2:44 PM edit delete
Centcomm
>>> ATTENTION!!! <<<

IF you wish to skip ahead to the next page click here! Next page!

There is quite a bit of Filler and other art if you want to check it out!
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ProfEtheric 31st Jul 2016, 9:00 PM edit delete reply

:'(
DLKmusic 31st Jul 2016, 9:11 PM edit delete reply

That's about as eloquently put as is humanly possible, Prof. Thank you.
Centcomm 31st Jul 2016, 9:40 PM edit delete reply

Offers Hugs.
Sheela 1st Aug 2016, 11:51 AM edit delete reply

On the bright side, Datachasers is now Rank 7.
Centcomm 2nd Aug 2016, 2:00 PM edit delete reply

Not anymore it seems.
Gilrandir 2nd Aug 2016, 2:04 PM edit delete reply
Well, I am still voting for it. It should not be a surprise that the other webcomics will be rallying their own support to respond to the upsurge of DataChasers votes. I expect a new equilibrium will be reached soon, but people wanting DataChasers to rank highly will need to continue their efforts on a consistent basis.
Haegan2005 2nd Aug 2016, 4:17 PM edit delete reply

Voted!
Sheela 2nd Aug 2016, 5:22 PM edit delete reply

New month, new voting tallies.
It was at rank 7 for a few days there. :)
Stormwind13 31st Jul 2016, 9:00 PM edit delete reply

;-(
…”One for all and all for one!”)
An old world vanished and then there were none. – I Will Fear No Evil - Robert Heinlein

Seasons In The Sun

Goodbye CeCi, you will be missed.
Centcomm 31st Jul 2016, 9:41 PM edit delete reply

aww

offers HUGS. I have listened to that in regards to Ceci
mjkj 31st Jul 2016, 9:01 PM edit delete reply

Awwww... watchdoggy is so nice... *hugs her*

I hope Rose was quick enough...
cattservant 31st Jul 2016, 9:04 PM edit delete reply

Another cliff!
DLKmusic 31st Jul 2016, 9:09 PM edit delete reply

This wasn't the cliff, Cattservant. This was the ground you hit after falling off of one...

Now I'll never get to see CeCi running around the streets of New Troy singing "It's A Small World" at the top of her lungs.

Damn it, there's something in my eye!
cattservant 31st Jul 2016, 9:13 PM edit delete reply

Lots of loose ends to cushion the fall.
Centcomm 31st Jul 2016, 9:42 PM edit delete reply

yes . this is not a cliff hanger. this is a done and done. The next live page starts the new arc.
cattservant 31st Jul 2016, 9:49 PM edit delete reply

Momentum is conserved.
Gilrandir 31st Jul 2016, 9:50 PM edit delete reply
Ah. Oh well. Very sad, then.
Wolfsbane 1st Aug 2016, 10:30 AM edit delete reply

This story has been going for so long I didn't think we were doing arcs. But since we are...

First arc: 1400 comics and 9+ years.
Second arc: ?

hoo boy. Thatsa lotta drawing.
DLKmusic 31st Jul 2016, 9:18 PM edit delete reply

For some reason, the loss of simple innocence in this song reminds me of CeCi... Everything we loved about her.

See the tree how big it's grown It hasn't been to long ago
it wasn't big.
We laughed at her and she got mad the first day that she planted it
was just a twig.....
And then the first snow came and and she ran out to brush the snow away
so it wouldn't die
Came running in all excited, tripped and almost hurt herself
we laughed till we cried...

And Ceci we'll miss you,
and we're being good
And we'd love to be with you
If only we could.


https://youtu.be/rZiEY3O-FWk
Dragonrider 31st Jul 2016, 9:29 PM edit delete reply

*Passes DLKMusic box of Kleenex* Move over bro need a place to let my soul be free while tears flow.
DLKmusic 31st Jul 2016, 9:36 PM edit delete reply

Thanks Dragonrider... *Turns the stereo up*

Have a beer bro, I think we need it!
Centcomm 31st Jul 2016, 9:45 PM edit delete reply

... oh damn.
Guest 31st Jul 2016, 9:22 PM edit delete reply
All these moments...

...will be lost in time...

...like tears...

...in rain.

Time...

...to die.
Centcomm 31st Jul 2016, 9:37 PM edit delete reply

There is no randomness that this scene may or may not remind you of that classic scene.
JacobJSebastian 1st Aug 2016, 1:05 AM edit delete reply

Blade Runner
VERY good choice.
lalverson 31st Jul 2016, 9:23 PM edit delete reply

Well done.
Centcomm 31st Jul 2016, 9:38 PM edit delete reply

Thank you.
Dragonrider 31st Jul 2016, 9:25 PM edit delete reply

One by One the best loved Good Guys are disappearing. When this was scripted did you picture Ceci, Arianna, Democlus developing the following they did? I do think Ceci had the greatest fan base and next to "The Emperor of BBQ" Centcomm has created the most desire, from fans, for revenge with this stunt. Sorry, the art and scripting are excellent but due to content I can't give it a positive CF rating so am abstaining from rating this page.
Tokyo Rose 31st Jul 2016, 9:38 PM edit delete reply

I don't think either of us remotely expected the fan-following some of these characters have gotten...
Centcomm 31st Jul 2016, 9:39 PM edit delete reply

Well you still have Dolly.. and Maxus. And Acantha is in danger but shes in no safer hands.

Sadly Ceci's fate was written long ago. Rose still doesnt understand why the readers love her so much.
DLKmusic 31st Jul 2016, 9:46 PM edit delete reply

For the longest time I thought CeCi was mostly annoying, to be honest. Kinda like a 7 year old niece who always slams the doors as she runs through the house.

But when Watchdog took over, I was like... Say what? that's MY niece. And that montage when TR un-erased her was a moment of Joy! "She could annoy me as long as she wanted after that, and I would be thankful!"

Now I feel like I've lost a part of my soul almost... Over a fictional character....

Well done indeed, girls... well done indeed!

Now I go back to an endless loop of Bobby Goldsboro. Would you girls care to wax melancholy with Dragonrider and me?

Dragonrider 31st Jul 2016, 10:10 PM edit delete reply

She was the hope and desire for love, truth, nobility, friendship and spirit of freedom that each person has deep though it may be buried inside them. She was everyones heroine that was ill used, betrayed and left to die by the uncaring "Powers that Be." In short she was everything Kyle is not.

Do wish she could have said good-bye to "Mommy" and let her know how the Armageddon Option was stopped. Would have been food for thought when Dolly and Calliope meet and Debrief.
Centcomm 31st Jul 2016, 10:30 PM edit delete reply

Ceci's actions were NOT ignored .. Rose never forgets someone who helps her. And honestly Ceci is the ONLY one who could have saved Aeneas.. and she did.
Gilrandir 31st Jul 2016, 11:14 PM edit delete reply
@Centcomm: "Ceci's actions were NOT ignored .. Rose never forgets someone who helps her. And honestly Ceci is the ONLY one who could have saved Aeneas ..."

That seems a little sad to me. Citing Rose as evidence her actions were not ignored? Poor Aeneas ... Doomed to be an inconsequential afterthought.
Dragonrider 31st Jul 2016, 11:24 PM edit delete reply

@Centcomm: Never said her actions were ignored, just that the "Powers That Be" (her creator) fucked her and sure as hell didn't kiss her.
HiFranc 1st Aug 2016, 1:23 AM edit delete reply

For me this is bitter sweet. I didn't want her to die but at least she has a friend with her.
antrik 2nd Aug 2016, 8:51 AM edit delete reply
Indeed, there are many other likeable characters in the story still, which we all look forward to seeing again -- in fact I don't think CeCi was even my favourite one on that score.

But she was special to us: she was the one we saw growing up -- from just a silly kid, to someone who cares; who wants to be a better person; who struggles to find her place in the world; who is looking towards a rich future... But now that future was taken from her :-(

[sniff]

Not to put down the various other bright spots -- but I'm not sure right now there is any other character in this story we were equally invested in...
Gilrandir 2nd Aug 2016, 10:26 AM edit delete reply
Not even (IMHO) so much that we saw her grow as that she was portrayed as a fun-loving innocent until cruelly snuffed out for no apparent reason beyond that sometimes bad things happen to good people.

It was obvious to others here (though not to me) that the creatrices were about to do away with her, but there was nothing about her circumstances that seemed (to me) to warrant the need for her death -- other than the desire for a death scene. It seems reasonable to suppose she had time to exit the 'apocalypse node' after delivering the spike since it took time to complete its deployment, but she didn't do so for reasons unexplained. Really the thing that ended up doing her in (IMHO) was the 'brain bomb' that triggered on mission-complete, which was definitely introduced at the very last seconds. So the perception of her was that of a sweet, cuddly kitten that bumbled around for a while, got stuffed into a sack, then was rescued from the sack just in time to get an anvil dropped on her head, saving others selflessly in the process. I'm sure the creative team perceives it differently, quite possibly on the basis of discussions to which we have not been privy, but that ended up as the overall impression I was left with.
Tokyo Rose 2nd Aug 2016, 3:27 PM edit delete reply

@Gilrandir

The destruction of the "apocalypse node" (nice term!) would have had no direct effect on Ceci. There was no need to show her exiting it, since all she needed to do was disconnect herself from the system. She wasn't "trapped" there.

I feel that it shouldn't really be a surprise that the androids which Cent-Comm custom-builds as her personal agents are outfitted with self-destruct packages. (In a way, Kali's death foreshadowed Ceci's by demonstrating that such packages are possible.)

Ceci's demise was planned quite a long time ago. It didn't happen solely because we wanted to throw in another death scene or some shit. Believe me, there've been a LOT of discussions on this one.
Gilrandir 2nd Aug 2016, 3:49 PM edit delete reply
Ah, thank you. I didn't think the overwrite would have had that effect, but there seemed to be some indirect implication that that might have been part of the cause of death. If it was wholly due to the self-destruct, that makes more sense.

And please don't misunderstand my comment about a 'death scene'. I did not say 'just a death scene'. I presume storytellers will play to their audience, seeking to evoke a panoply of responses and emotions in the service of the overall work. If you decided, two years ago that at this point the story needed a little pathos, that doesn't mean you did it casually or carelessly. I think, you might have been better served (for example) to add a little delay and let her enjoy her success, share it with the others, and experience their gratitude before the final resolution. As you say, the magnitude of the blow to the audience appears to have taken even you somewhat by surprise. But, as I've said, that's an editorial choice and it is your story.
Sheela 2nd Aug 2016, 5:29 PM edit delete reply

"So the perception of her was that of a sweet, cuddly kitten that bumbled around for a while, got stuffed into a sack, then was rescued from the sack just in time to get an anvil dropped on her head, saving others selflessly in the process"


That's a lovely little recap there.
In short, CeCi used to be a kitten-inna-sack, but then she took an anvil to the head !
And now some say, that Dolly needs to rescue all the lost little kittens!
Haegan2005 3rd Aug 2016, 4:16 PM edit delete reply

Rescuing is what Dolly does. And then she puts whoever put the kitten in the sack, in the sack. She is a Paladin in more ways then one.
Gilrandir 31st Jul 2016, 9:45 PM edit delete reply
Whose hand is touching CeCi's left cheek in panel 3? It appears out of proportion for CeCi, exhibits some indications of transparency, and looks to be adorned in some kind of faint design -- whereas we can see on the previous page that all of the fingers on both of CeCi's hands are unmarked. The nails match hers, but most of the rest of it looks wrong to me. Am I just mistaken?
Centcomm 31st Jul 2016, 9:49 PM edit delete reply

its Ceci's hand disentigrating into data garbage. the angle and shadows make it look odd.
Gilrandir 31st Jul 2016, 9:51 PM edit delete reply
Ok. Thank you.
Timotheus 31st Jul 2016, 10:02 PM edit delete reply

It is neither my story nor my characters, I have no say in what their fates may be or how these fates were determined. As in real life, all I can be is an observer. (And not read it if I really can't stand it. Which you'll notice I'm still doing.)
But at least I know who to grump at.
Gilrandir 31st Jul 2016, 10:05 PM edit delete reply
Well said. I can endorse those sentiments.
Dragonrider 31st Jul 2016, 10:15 PM edit delete reply

And grump we shall, loud and long O Timotheus, loud and long.
DLKmusic 31st Jul 2016, 10:43 PM edit delete reply

@Timotheus: Have a beer bro, looks like you could use one too!
Haegan2005 31st Jul 2016, 10:50 PM edit delete reply

/Cry
HiFranc 31st Jul 2016, 11:08 PM edit delete reply

I'm glad that watchdog had enough empathy to comfort her at the end. Was that Rose's doing?

I did have a second point but I've forgotten it and that's annoying.

For number 3, I remember a line from an old film[1]:

The [name of race / species] believe that a person is not truly dead until all the people they touched are dead.

[1] Battle Beyond the Stars
HiFranc 31st Jul 2016, 11:09 PM edit delete reply

I just had a thought - is Dolly going to be able to keep her promise to Dusty?
Rashala 1st Aug 2016, 12:23 AM edit delete reply

*twitch........twitch......ke_rack..................*


*Sets some pink roses, an apple , and a stuffed kitten out by a ceci hologram*






Ten minutes later, rash kicks open the gates of new Troy an army of glowing red eyed tedee and clones armed out their ways all grinning like kids in a candy store. He points at centcomm tower. Cry havoc.....and let slip the tedee clones of war!


GET HER!


The rash steps back as he unleashes one of centcomm's least likely nightmares!
Timotheus 1st Aug 2016, 12:44 AM edit delete reply

Nonsense, what you want is an army of self-ambulatory Teddy Ruxpins singing "It's A Small World" at two decibels over normal on all audible and communications frequencies. (Not quite up to Nano Cat but we can't impose others copyrights.)
Dragonrider 1st Aug 2016, 11:45 AM edit delete reply

While that is evil try an army of Barney clones singing," I love you, You love me. Lets drown Centcomm, In a bucket of tea."
Rashala 2nd Aug 2016, 12:17 AM edit delete reply

*adds both ideas to the tedee army ranks*
OfficerAllie 3rd Aug 2016, 6:30 PM edit delete reply

Vinnie you better call for some backup!!
Wolfsbane 1st Aug 2016, 1:14 AM edit delete reply

the feelz...

EVIL duo....
Sheela 2nd Aug 2016, 5:29 PM edit delete reply

Those are some good feels though.
HiFranc 1st Aug 2016, 1:18 AM edit delete reply

Songs about death:

Stranger to the Rain
Bright Eyes


Come to think of it, I suspect that Watchdog was mean to Dolly so that she wouldn't feel upset when they went. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

However, this page underlines just how much freedom Dolly's lost. If this is what CentComm is willing to do for an angel, what would she do to make sure that Dolly and/or Lynn don't leave New Troy again fall into the wrong hands.
Matt Knab 1st Aug 2016, 3:37 AM edit delete reply

No hope of a cloud save, eh? :'(
Dragonrider 1st Aug 2016, 11:56 AM edit delete reply

Songs, Where have All The Flowers Gone.

Centcomm, I predict, will sabotage Lynn's chances to become a Space Pilot. Forcing her into becoming what all Taylors have been. The Sys-Op, maintenance caretaker for the Centcomm system, which could bit her in the ass royally. As I recall a small item from early on Calliope was trying to repair a processor that had been repaired well beyond its maximum shelf life. This may be a sign of systems not providing the correct information when needed causing things like Ceci to be destroyed instead of repurposed.
Tokyo Rose 2nd Aug 2016, 3:33 PM edit delete reply

Lynn doesn't have the aptitude for Calli's job; there's no point in Cent-Comm trying to force her into such a role.

(As for Calli's repair-turned-replacement, the only real significance that could be said to have in the larger story is to demonstrate that Cent-Comm prefers keep things in play until they're no longer useful.)
Sheela 2nd Aug 2016, 5:33 PM edit delete reply

Curiously, we don't know what Lynn is good at.
For all we know, she has a major aptitude for being in a noble profession, such as a porn star, a thief, a murderer, a psychopath, or even a banker !
Gonna be interesting to find out where she goes. That is, if the story follows her, and not Dolly.
jas 1st Aug 2016, 5:28 AM edit delete reply

Somehow this song (link below) seems a fitting tribute for Ceci. She surpassed everyone's expectations, even her creators, and now she lives on in memory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS9FvIHDlWE
Mark_L_A 1st Aug 2016, 5:31 AM edit delete reply

CeCi and Watchdog, your song is over.

May everyone remember you in their own song.

https://youtu.be/NgYudFmmOl4
Just_IDD 1st Aug 2016, 7:06 AM edit delete reply
We shall sing the "Ode to Ex-Girlfriends"

jas 1st Aug 2016, 7:21 AM edit delete reply

Another song comes to mind for Ceci:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcYJHojTsFg

This one, too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSi4s0BKtGs
JacobJSebastian 1st Aug 2016, 9:06 AM edit delete reply

*sigh* sometimes, being the roommate of the writer (CentComm) is a good thing.

This morning, I was yelling at her about the comic. partial transcript: "...high speed, low drag turbo powered THUNDERCUNT!!!"

needless to say, I didn't like the cliffhanger with all the physical characters stuck in the middle of a WAR ZONE.

*sigh*

PS - yeah, that applies to you too, Rose.
Sheela 1st Aug 2016, 11:49 AM edit delete reply

Rose is stuck in a warzone ?
Just what is going on at your end ?!
Tokyo Rose 1st Aug 2016, 3:12 PM edit delete reply

::busily writing:: ..."high-speed"..."low-drag"..."turbo-powered"...this's good shit here...
Sheela 1st Aug 2016, 5:44 PM edit delete reply

I think it was the "thundercunt" that sold it. :)
DLKmusic 2nd Aug 2016, 3:36 PM edit delete reply

I dunno, Sheela. Associating thunder with that part of the female anatomy makes me want to seriously consider Celibacy.
jamie59 1st Aug 2016, 6:28 PM edit delete reply

Wish I was there. That might have helped me with my funk.
Sheela 1st Aug 2016, 11:50 AM edit delete reply

CeCi has been triggered !

And now she gets to go and see the First Cirquit. :)
PriorKnowledge 1st Aug 2016, 2:08 PM edit delete reply
Excellent story. Well deserving of praise. But not the ending. I have had a dislike for fictional animal hero deaths ever since I saw Disney's "Old Yeller." A human hero is allowed to receive hero accolades, bask in glory, ride off in the sunset and retire. But animal heroes die at the end of their service. Over-and-over. Just to pull our heart strings a little extra. Although Ceci was a robot and not an animal, it still is the same non-human hero death. I feel like Asimov complaining about the Frankenstein Complex.
Centcomm 1st Aug 2016, 4:39 PM edit delete reply

Oh Ceci will not be forgotten .. trust me. Her fate comes up again.
Sheela 1st Aug 2016, 5:46 PM edit delete reply

To be fair, it's not as if Datachasers is ending.

CeCi is only one little cutie amongst many!
Dragonrider 1st Aug 2016, 9:12 PM edit delete reply

@Sheela She is just the best loved and most gorgeous of all. She is everyone's spirit of adventure, exuberant, bubbly spontaneous death machine.
Sheela 2nd Aug 2016, 6:17 AM edit delete reply

Personally, I preferred Malati.

But sure, CeCi was cute 'n' all.
Dragonrider 2nd Aug 2016, 12:40 PM edit delete reply

Malati was nice but IMNeverHO Cecil was the best we had. She combined Sexy with bubbly little sister almost innocence, yes I remember what she did to the border guard.
Centcomm 2nd Aug 2016, 1:59 PM edit delete reply

That border guard never had a chance... ( you do realize she could have just as easyly killed him?
DLKmusic 2nd Aug 2016, 4:20 PM edit delete reply

I had ZERO sympathy for that border guard, and thought he was probably the luckiest man in New Rome that CeCi didn't kill him.

The guard I kinda felt sorry for was the one who found a kindred spirit in Dolly, and then got shot down like a B-52 over Berlin!
Sheela 2nd Aug 2016, 5:37 PM edit delete reply

To be honest, I found the sexy combined with "little sister" innocence to be a little bit .. icky.

Not my kinda thing.
DLKmusic 2nd Aug 2016, 6:44 PM edit delete reply

I'm with you on this one, Sheela. She had that innocent sexy thing that made me want to get a shotgun to keep away undesirable boys!

You know... the "You can date when you're Thirty, young lady... Maybe" thing.
Sheela 3rd Aug 2016, 1:24 AM edit delete reply

Yeah ok, I get that.
But she had a plasma caster embedded in her hand .. the shotgun would be a bit superflous.
PriorKnowledge 1st Aug 2016, 2:22 PM edit delete reply
Acantha survived, even with a fatal wound, but not Ceci.
Fairportfan 1st Aug 2016, 3:26 PM edit delete reply

The next few pages may determine whether i continue reading - at this point there are about two-and-a-half mobile characters in this comic i like at all, much less as much as i liked Ceci.

The story is well-told, and there was no cheating, but when my favourite character checks out, i (in any story) i have to consider whether i continue.

I'll give it at least a month before i make any decision; if we get back to the other characters i like stage center, or if some of the others (or new characters) catch my fancy, i'll probably continue.

i am NOT saying it's not a good story.

I am NOT saying it's not beautiful.

I am NOT saying that i hate you forever.

I AM saying that for me the heart of the story is gone.
Centcomm 1st Aug 2016, 4:36 PM edit delete reply

Ill be very sad if thats the case Fairport. and I appreciate you giving it a chance. There are a lot of characters here besides Ceci and She did go out a hero. She saved a entire city.

I hope you can find another Charcter to love and adore :D
Timotheus 2nd Aug 2016, 12:49 AM edit delete reply

Speaking as a amateur storyteller, I'll come to the authors defense and say that sometimes the plot outline forces you to do things you really don't want to for continuities sake. What seems like a perfectly innocuous bit of story development back in the early planning stages can turn into an emotional gut twister after a few hundred pages of character growth and plots that insist on following their own logic. But the rock still has to fall or else.
So you feel just as bad as the readers or you rewrite the whole story.
Or there's fan fiction I suppose.
Tokyo Rose 2nd Aug 2016, 3:39 PM edit delete reply

Might have to give it a bit longer than a month; this is literally the end of the buffer we'd built up prior to Cent's hospitalization. I think we've got a few guest artists turning out some pages to help cover the gap, and a couple of reboot pages in the pipe, but Cent hadn't been able to page out more of our script before shit went crazy.
Wolfsbane 2nd Aug 2016, 4:33 PM edit delete reply

@TokyoRose - how long of a break do you think there will be before the next story arc starts?

(However, ZERO pressure on Cent to work any harder than she is comfortable with. We want her healthy and happy for decades to come.)
Tokyo Rose 2nd Aug 2016, 4:53 PM edit delete reply

I'm not entirely sure how long it'll be. Cent did render out some panels for the next sequence before she had to go into the hospital, but they haven't been assembled into page format yet. She's under orders to take it easy, let herself heal up, and not push too hard, and she's followed those directions very diligently. However, she's mentioned to me that she tires very easily and finds that frustrating, and she's still on painkillers that make her feel sleepy and vague. She does have an appointment to see the cardiologist tomorrow morning to check her progress.
jamie59 1st Aug 2016, 4:23 PM edit delete reply

Any chance one of Rose's people have one of those brain capturing devices that saved Ada & Teedee?
Centcomm 1st Aug 2016, 4:40 PM edit delete reply

That would be telling. and spoilery.
jamie59 1st Aug 2016, 5:45 PM edit delete reply

:P :'-(
Sheela 1st Aug 2016, 5:48 PM edit delete reply

Reminds me that there was a story arc where Dr Silver worked with a shady company on making better flash sticks.

They were very shady!
Kitty 1st Aug 2016, 4:26 PM edit delete reply
Beautiful page, beautifully written.

And how does that line go...? "I will not say: Do not weep. For not all tears are an evil." (Tolkien)
Centcomm 1st Aug 2016, 4:40 PM edit delete reply

yep that is the line :D.. along with " Run you fools! "
CptKerion 1st Aug 2016, 4:46 PM edit delete reply
Glory to the Brave by Hammerfall
Snow is falling down on this glorious land
colors fading, turning into white again
To fallen heroes angels sting, they cry their winter tears
endless mourning days will turn to years

So this is goodbye, I take leave of you and
spread your wings and you will fly away now, fly away
now

Nothing on earth stays forever
but none of your deeds were in vain
Deep in our hearts you will live again
you're gone to the home of the brave

Every solemn moment I will treasure inside
even though it's hard to understand
that a silent wind can blow that candle out
taking everything leaving the pain far behind

You call out my name, but your voice is fading
into the wind, embraced, you'll fly away now, fly away
now

Nothing on earth stays forever
but none of your deeds were in vain
Deep in our hearts you will live again
you're gone to the home of the brave

My eyes are closed I feel you're faraway (so close)
far beyond that shining star
I know you'll find what you've been fighting for
far beyond that shining star

Down on bended knee I pray, bring courage to these
souls
make'em live forever in the heart of the bold
So I say farewell my friends, I hope we'll meet again
when my time has come to fall from the grace

So this is goodbye, I take leave of you and
spread your wings and you will fly away now, fly away
now

Nothing on earth stays forever
but none of your deeds were in vain
Deep in our hearts you will live again
you're gone to the home of the brave

The above are the lyrics to Hammerfall's song, Glory to the Brave.


I cannot think of a moment more suitable for this song.
CptKerion 1st Aug 2016, 6:32 PM edit delete reply
I made a playlist compiling the myriad Ceci musical tributes roughly organized from somber to happy.

I'll try to add new ones as soon as I see them.

www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVF2OapAogzXoc5Ugiu_E5E3YuI4_LluM
DLKmusic 1st Aug 2016, 8:22 PM edit delete reply

You missed two of them that were posted here, CptKerion:

https://youtu.be/rZiEY3O-FWk Posted by me

https://youtu.be/4JF5GWhnXLk Posted by CentComm herself
Boren 1st Aug 2016, 6:34 PM edit delete reply

I'm not ready to give up on our little CeCi yet, don't forget a few things
1. Her programs are in a self contained block, even if her body goes all that was CeCi may still be recovered
2. We have two cyberpaths and two master level hackers withing arms length, things may still be done
KarToon12 1st Aug 2016, 7:49 PM edit delete reply

Allow me to go into the corner and cry for a bit. ;__;


At the very least, Ceci died a hero.
Bearion 1st Aug 2016, 9:18 PM edit delete reply
So sad. If the heart of the story is Dolly's journey in finding her humanity, CiCi's was one of innocence finding her place.

I was obviously one of many who rooted for CiCi hoping she would grow and find her center. So much character development for one to lose just doesn't seem fair.

RIP, CiCi. May the First Circuit bless you.
Wolfsbane 2nd Aug 2016, 12:45 PM edit delete reply

Why did I just have a South Park flashback?

"Oh My God, they killed CiCi! YOU BASTARDS!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBoTEZxWkec
Haegan2005 2nd Aug 2016, 1:47 PM edit delete reply

Cent is a highly empathetic person and she's taking a pummeling from everyone here.

Please remember that Cent and Rose have worked very hard to craft a many layered story and world to go with it. They do not kill anyone for no reason. This will induce changes in the characters lives that will be far reaching. It is also to be noted that they do not use many characters that are pure evil or good, but of shades inbetween. That makes for beautiful story telling that is memorable long after the book has been put away.

Clap and cheer for them and yell "MORE MORE!" And they will continue to draw us in with more great story telling and keep us on our tip toes awaiting what happens next. Let's not discourage them guys. Not when they have really started to roll.
Gilrandir 2nd Aug 2016, 2:22 PM edit delete reply
Thanks for the heads up, @Haegen2005.

DataChasers is a wonderful comic with many bits of sparkling dialogue, wonderful art, engaging and varied characters, a mix of comic tone, serious storyline, and thought-provoking issues. I enjoy reading it, and I enjoy commenting on it -- mostly for either my own education or our hopefully mutual amusement.

I want my commentary to be honest, articulate, helpful, supportive, insightful and the envy of all who read it. I want women who read my comments to want me and men who read my comments to want to be me.

But mostly what I want it to be is honest. I have not always agreed with every editorial choice made by the creatrices, but it is their story and I totally respect their right and their willingness to tell it their way. I am nothing but grateful that they have elected to share their many hours of hard work with us for our pleasure. I feel the least I can do is conduct myself in such a way that they know they can depend on me to honestly express my opinion in what I hope is a compassionate and respectful way. As @Timotheus eloquently put, it's their story and we know who to grump to -- but it's a good story. It would sadden me if either @Centcomm or @Tokyo Rose felt unappreciated or disrespected because of a comment of mine. If that happens, please let me know, so I can learn to better and more appropriately express myself in the future.
Centcomm 2nd Aug 2016, 3:10 PM edit delete reply

Thank you.. I am right now at a mix of emotions .. Ceci's " death " was planned over two or three years ago .. the script for this scene sat there all this time looking at me. And now that its done rather than feeling proud i wonder at times if we didnt just cut our own throat. .. that could be the depression from the heart surgery talking .. im still not 100 percent back up from that. we have some really cool stuff coming your way to help fill the void while waiting. I wont say what but it involves some guest pages and stuff from some really awesome Comic fury artists! So keep watch!
Gilrandir 2nd Aug 2016, 3:32 PM edit delete reply
Just throw @Tokyo Rose under the bus. ^_^ The art is wonderful, it's all the fault of the spiky ball of hate that she made you kill CeCi! You didn't want to ... you didn't mean to ... it's just that cruel taskmistress that made you do it. ^_^ Just like in Mockingbird -- yeah, that's right.

(In case there is even a shade of doubt, I am joking here.)
Tokyo Rose 2nd Aug 2016, 4:46 PM edit delete reply

< rage attraction mode on >

Goddamn right I did. I hated writing for that cutesy-wootsy waste of space with her bubbleheaded "tee-hee, Mommy, derp derp" babble and her bottomless closet of offensive eye-candy slutwear. That two-faced Swiss-army A.I.S.-murdering assassin-fuckbot was a perpetual thorn in my side and a malignant tumor in my script. I'm glad she's dead, you hear me?! GLAD! GLAAAAD!!! I DRINK YOUR TEARS OF GRIEF FROM A BRANDY GLASS!!! HAHAHAHA!!!

< rage attraction mode off >

When Cent gave me the first draft of this particular scene, I--no kidding or exaggeration here--fucking wept. It touched off a very intense discussion that's still ongoing.
Sheela 2nd Aug 2016, 5:43 PM edit delete reply

Well, can't let the plot become too obvious either.
And clearly, bad things has to happen as well as good things, or the story just ends up too saccharine and not believable at all.
DLKmusic 2nd Aug 2016, 7:36 PM edit delete reply

This is a very good point, Haegan. If it sounds like I'm criticizing, I'm honestly not. I understand the death in terms of the consistency of the story, which was incredibly well illustrated and told.

But if they are going to spend 3 pages ripping my heart out of my chest and stomping on it, I feel I do have a right to express how well they accomplished this.

Of course I'm sad, but I want more story!!!!

P.S. Don't push yourself too hard, Terri, we can and will wait for you to heal up.
Tokyo Rose 2nd Aug 2016, 8:06 PM edit delete reply

*engages in vigorous Riverdancing upon DLKmusic's heart*
Sheela 3rd Aug 2016, 1:26 AM edit delete reply

*digs a hole in the backyard for the heart*

Don't worry DLKmusic, me 'n' Rose got this nasty thing subdued already!
DLKmusic 3rd Aug 2016, 4:34 PM edit delete reply

Rose, have you considered "low impact" aerobics?

*owe"
Gilrandir 3rd Aug 2016, 10:48 PM edit delete reply
Cue the tango music.
antrik 3rd Aug 2016, 12:23 PM edit delete reply
Well, if you were talking about CentComm the self-righteous A.I.S., I'd agree about "pummelling" -- but since you are clearly talking about our dear author, I don't think that's really the commenters' intention here :-)

I guess there were like two or three who indeed commented in a negative way. Everyone else I believe is just expressing their sadness, without any criticism implied. At least that's my impression -- and definitely my own stance on the matter :-)
Morituri 2nd Aug 2016, 2:17 PM edit delete reply
Congratulations on handling character death in a way that neither glorified nor trivialized it, and gave to know that death, though arbitrarily and ruthlessly imposed, was not in vain.

Aeneas damn well better appreciate the sacrifice. She'd have been killed whether he survived or not, and she made the choice to save him.
Centcomm 2nd Aug 2016, 3:13 PM edit delete reply

And thats the thing to remember.. She didn't HAVE to save Aeneas .. she could have just let the spike do its thing .. Rose couldn't stop it nor could Aeneas. Only Ceci could. Shes a Hero. dont forget that part.
antrik 3rd Aug 2016, 12:34 PM edit delete reply
I'm confused now. You make it sound like CeCi's death was a sacrifice on her part. My understanding was that the self-destruct would have activated no matter where the spike was deployed; and that CeCi (once Rosie restored her consciousness) could not have prevented the deployment anymore -- so she was going to be toast anyways at this point, no matter what she did? Then where exactly is the sacrifice? Am I missing something crucial here?...
Tokyo Rose 3rd Aug 2016, 12:37 PM edit delete reply

The way she reacted to the situation was important. I'm too exhausted right now to expand upon that statement, however; apologies. Oh look a horizontal surface *zzz*
Gilrandir 3rd Aug 2016, 1:38 PM edit delete reply
@antrik, I agree with you that 'sacrifice' is probably not an appropriate term here. Many people seem to equate 'sacrifice' with 'loss', which is not (IMHO) correct. CeCi's termination is (again, IMHO) definitely a loss, and as you point out, not a sacrifice because she would be lost whether she acted heroically or not.

That is not to say (and I would not in any way suggest you were implying) that her act and her choice were without significance. Obviously a great many people will be affected by her decision, and it exhibited praiseworthy virtues and values. I think the thing that possibly verges on the issue of sacrifice is if the situation is analogous to that other classic science fiction movie: Krull.

Krull is a cheesy SF movie which is distinguished by having the most quotable good lines of a really bad SF picture. It far outstrips Battle Beyond the Stars, but an argument could be made that it is contested by Hawk the Slayer. As you recall (because of course all of you have seen it ^_^), near the end the cyclops, Rell, must confront the fact that his allotted time is up and his death is inevitable. He can either sit out the final battle and enjoy a reasonably quiet and pain-free passing, or he can go up against the final boss and suffer sorrow, pain, and death -- with no hope of survival in any case.

CeCi's choice is like that, and to the extent that she suffers more from making the effort than not, that, at least, is a sacrifice on her part.

(As always, the above opinions are mine alone, but I will share them if asked nicely. ^_^)
Tokyo Rose 3rd Aug 2016, 4:25 PM edit delete reply

Krull is AWESOME.
Gilrandir 3rd Aug 2016, 8:06 PM edit delete reply
What's your favorite line?
Gilrandir 2nd Aug 2016, 4:02 PM edit delete reply
Worst ad placement ever!

My latest DataChasers page was served with a banner ad for a browser extension which purports to allow me to read my webcomics without having to 'suffer' reading through the commentary. ^_^ Given what little I know of the reading community here, I kind of doubt we are their target audience. ^_^
Centcomm 2nd Aug 2016, 4:39 PM edit delete reply

LOLOL! the comments are half the damn comic!
Sheela 2nd Aug 2016, 5:44 PM edit delete reply

Gotta admit, the comment section is pretty active. :)
DLKmusic 2nd Aug 2016, 6:14 PM edit delete reply

This is one of 3 comics that I diligently read the comments on every day to see what new thing has been posted, and most of the time it's several times a day

Don't that that away from me! PLEASE!!!!!
CptKerion 2nd Aug 2016, 7:42 PM edit delete reply
Same here. This is quite literally the only web community I still regularly participate in. I rather love it here. I just kinda wish we had a little section for non sequiturs.
antrik 3rd Aug 2016, 12:45 PM edit delete reply
Don't kid yourselves: while we have a couple dozen very active commenters here (and it looks like I'm becoming one of them -- oh noes! ;-) ), I strongly suspect that like with any webcomic, there is a "silent majority" of readers who just check out the pages, and rarely if ever bother with the comments.

Having said that, I don't see why anyone would want to actively filter out comments... Unless the software was really intended for other kinds of sites, and someone/something doing the ad placement didn't realise webcomics are probably not an appropriate target.
Gilrandir 3rd Aug 2016, 1:44 PM edit delete reply
The silent majority here, however, might well enjoy reading the commentary, even if they don't contribute to it.

If there's anyone reading this who bought the commentary blocking tool and uses it for DataChasers, please let me know. Also ... it isn't working. ^_^
Spelledeg 2nd Aug 2016, 8:11 PM edit delete reply

T_T Omg....goodbye Ceci. RIP

This is so poignant.
Mark_L_A 2nd Aug 2016, 8:34 PM edit delete reply

Ok, thinking outside of the box here.

We see the dissolution of CeCi and Watchdog BEFORE the self destruct is engaged.

Watchdog has all of those hacking protocols programmed into her, and was "Altered" by Dr Silver.

Do we know for certain that Watchdog with a basic "Morality" framework implanted, doesn't decide to bootstrap CeCi into the Network to possibly be downloaded later?

We don't know that.

We also don't know if that is even possible or probable.

However, the possibility DOES exist, so far as we know it.
Gilrandir 2nd Aug 2016, 10:28 PM edit delete reply
"The Archon was not seen to die, correct?" -- Golden Representative, Steakley's Armor

I sympathize with you, @Mark_L_A. There are several ways to contrive a last-second rescue for CeCi, but based on author commentary I think that, at this point, they feel the overall story will suffer if they don't get to deal with the consequences and ramifications of her termination. And, of course, if she gets brought back, it's much harder to do that in the same way.

Hypothetically, if requested and budget permitting, CentComm could crank out duplicate CeCi's back in New Troy by using the same Seed, the same Personality Template, and the same hardware mashup -- subject only to whatever personality differences the individual synthbrains introduce -- which would be just the same as if she was backed up to a new chassis anyway. But I doubt they'll go that route, either.

(As always, the above opinions are mine alone. I am, however, willing to share if asked nicely. ^_^)
Sheela 3rd Aug 2016, 1:28 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, there could be plenty of ways to make CeCi survive, but it's just not in the cards from the creatrixes.

... unless they change their mind, of course.
Tokyo Rose 3rd Aug 2016, 5:11 AM edit delete reply

Hypothetically, Cent-Comm could try to re-create Ceci. The real trick would be convincing her to do so. Again, from Cent-Comm's perspective and for her purposes, Ceci was an aberration, an unintended genesis, a mistake. She would never intentionally create a self-willed and uncontrolled Black Angel. She's no longer in the business of unleashing weapons of mass destruction on unsuspecting populations.
Marcus Ramesy 3rd Aug 2016, 10:55 AM edit delete reply

we are products of our experiences... if CeCi were rebuilt using her original personality template... it would be a ghost of what CeCi is.. not only would she not put her in a black angel.. she wouldn't have the experiences on the mission that lead to her personality growth... so..yes.. as Rose said.. Centcom could crank out another CeCi.... but why?
Carnifex 5th Aug 2016, 4:43 AM edit delete reply
First - congratulations. A compelling story, well crafted and well told. That so many of your audience is so emotionally invested in your creation is a very high (and richly deserved) praise. Kudos to you both!

Yes, I get Cent-Comm's position. She dispatched a weapon to do a task. Said weapon was a danger to herself and the world at large, thus could be tolerated to exist for only so long as it took to do it's assigned task. The cold, ruthless efficiency that Cent-Comm tries to hide so that the people under her care remain under her care, rather than revolting or abandoning her. Now that this facade has been allowed to slip, and slip within the view of several members of the Taylor family, it will be interesting to see what backlash (if any) she faces. I can't fault Cent-Comm for being true to what she is, but that doesn't mean I have to like it - or her.
Thracecius 27th Dec 2017, 5:16 PM edit delete reply
You are forever cemented into my memory, CeCi. Godspeed, child.

ATB - Straight to the Stars (feat. Sean Ryan)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_axLG1szU8

VNV Nation - Beloved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfc3zcnrWMQ

Your work is inspiring and thoughtful, CentComm and Tokyo Rose. You have my heartfelt thanks, particularly for the bittersweet moments like this scene, which make me appreciate a character like CeCi all the more. May you both live long, happy lives of creative wonder, and may we always be fortunate enough to share in your labors.

Thank you.
Thracecius 28th Dec 2017, 4:20 PM edit delete reply
Addendum:

I think it's important to note that, while CeCi was the hero of the day by stopping the Doomsday program, it was Tokyo Rose who made that feat possible by her quick thinking and trust that her gamble would pay off, especially considering that she had no real way of knowing if a restored CeCi would (or could) make the right decision. Ultimately though, even if it hadn't worked, I think Tokyo Rose deserves sincere thanks for bringing CeCi back and allowing her to die as herself. There is dignity in being able to face your fate on your own terms, and that is the gift that Tokyo Rose gave her. She may well be ill-tempered and manipulative, but it comes from an overriding sense of duty and compassion that is easy to misunderstand, but impossible to deny once you recognize it. That is the quality of her character, and a measure of those who took the time to create her. You have my thanks for sharing her with us.
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