Comic 1391 - Guest comic by rufiangel Of Serpamia Flare

17th Aug 2016, 7:24 AM
Guest comic by rufiangel Of Serpamia Flare
Average Rating: 4.92 (26 votes)

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Centcomm 17th Aug 2016, 7:24 AM edit delete
Centcomm
This Amazing page was done by the talaneted RufiAngel of Serpamina Flare

Here go check it out! Serpamina Flare

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Wolfsbane 17th Aug 2016, 7:41 AM edit delete reply

Rufi-ooo! Wow, what a treat to get such talented guest artists! Great job!
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:23 AM edit delete reply

Aww, thank you Wolfsbane! :'D <3
It was a major honour to have the opportunity to do a guest strip for Centy and Rose, so if you think the page works then that's a huge relief for me ;3;*
Stormwind13 17th Aug 2016, 7:50 AM edit delete reply

Great job RufiAngel. Looks really good. CeCi especially looks good, which makes me sad all over again to think she is gone.
Sheela 17th Aug 2016, 2:20 PM edit delete reply

I agree, it's pretty darn neat.
Though this raises the "talking heads" style to a whole new level!
Tokyo Rose 17th Aug 2016, 3:40 PM edit delete reply

Aw, Tokyo Rose is just using Nox as a sock puppet for a moment. I mean, Nox hasn't got any more use for her own head, right? Right.
DLKmusic 17th Aug 2016, 10:19 PM edit delete reply

I see you're bringing it all to a Head, rose! This is a good way to Head all the bad jokes off at the pass.

I'm stuck... trying to think of an appropriate Header here....
Just_IDD 18th Aug 2016, 12:41 AM edit delete reply
You could almost say TR is completely out of her mind.
DLKmusic 18th Aug 2016, 1:35 AM edit delete reply

I think you hit the nail right on the head, Just_IDD
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:26 AM edit delete reply

I think one could even say that Tokyo Rose is really ahead of the game, here.

Or even just... a head.

;D
kraznor 18th Aug 2016, 2:28 AM edit delete reply
This was just a heads up
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:25 AM edit delete reply

Aww! Thank you Stormwind13! ;3;*
I really enjoyed working on the CeCi panel in tribute to a great character <3 (but yes it also made me sad :'D *sobbu*)
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 8:33 AM edit delete reply

Curiously, I think it was Dolly that came out the best - He emotions are excellent!
rufiangel 24th Aug 2016, 3:08 AM edit delete reply

<3 Thank you, Sheela :D
revzet 17th Aug 2016, 7:58 AM edit delete reply

Can all these artists just draw my comic for me this is so beautiful *o*
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:27 AM edit delete reply

<333 Aww geez revzet, I'm glad you find it beautiful :'D <3 (I am particularly glad this can be said given the page has a severed android head for a lot of it XDDD)
MikeLinPA 17th Aug 2016, 8:53 AM edit delete reply
Are these last two pages canon? They seem to pick up in the right place, but we can never be too sure when guest artists come it.
sigpig 17th Aug 2016, 12:45 PM edit delete reply

CC and TR have stated that these guest-pages are completely cannon...
Tahg 17th Aug 2016, 12:54 PM edit delete reply
Yes, Cent mentioned on the last page that these pages are canon based on script that's already been written. I believe I read Cent will be able to ease back in a couple more weeks. However, I suspect we're nearly done with this corridor scene, and I don't know if that might require new sets, or how much lead time new comics would take.
Sheela 17th Aug 2016, 2:22 PM edit delete reply

In order for Centcomm to have some downtime, they have given small pieces of script to other artists to make updates with.

Eventually, when she's recovered, we will get those pages as 3D renderings too .. if I understand it correctly.
Guest 17th Aug 2016, 4:17 PM edit delete reply
Hopefully the guest art stays available for our enjoyment
Centcomm 17th Aug 2016, 5:11 PM edit delete reply

Yes these last two pages are totally Canon :D

and as per discussion with Rose the Guest art is staying once i get the CGI pages done ill put the CGI pages above the Guest art. These pages are just too good to be moved to the gallery and forgotten.
DLKmusic 17th Aug 2016, 10:09 PM edit delete reply

Hip Hip, HOURAH!!
Oberoten 18th Aug 2016, 2:03 AM edit delete reply

That is a beautiful solution. So glad to see you carrying on both with recovery and the story.

rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:30 AM edit delete reply

Omigosh Centy ;3;*** <3 I want to say what Serpy has said already in total agreement: thank you for trusting me with your script and characters so I could have the opportunity to work on this with you! It's a total honour <333
Centcomm 19th Aug 2016, 7:31 AM edit delete reply

well you guys went totally above and beyond what i expected .. seriously thank you and Serpenty both!
Haegan2005 17th Aug 2016, 9:18 AM edit delete reply

Dolly is bleeding inside. I have a feeling there may be a one sided commentary with centcom when she gets back.
Stormwind13 17th Aug 2016, 9:33 AM edit delete reply

Dolly is bleeding on the outside too. I agree though the greater wound is inside Dolly's heart. CentComm will NOT enjoy the conversation with Dolly, bet on that!
Sheela 17th Aug 2016, 2:23 PM edit delete reply

No doubt that CeCi will be missed.
Fairportfan 17th Aug 2016, 9:44 PM edit delete reply

OTOH, is DOlly has any say, CentCom won't be missed. Not-missed several times, one hopes.

With the Biggest BFG she can find.
The Seeker 18th Aug 2016, 12:55 AM edit delete reply
A thought occurred to me Rose said and I quote "Her body self-destructed." she let nothing slip about her mind, I think(blind hope, maybe...) our dear CeCi might still be in the good fight...(I'm threedog bow wow...Not intentional I swear)
Eldoran 19th Aug 2016, 12:32 AM edit delete reply
I still keep hoping some kind of deus-ex-machina solution somehow saves Ceci. At least her mind, like we have seen with Teedee.
But besides that, remember how Dr. Silver vowed Centcomm a chewout if Ceci didn't survive? This is getting an increasingly long list...
mjkj 17th Aug 2016, 9:56 AM edit delete reply

Woah, Rufi, great one... ♡

Wow, that delivery...

...and that glorified CeCi... *sniffs* ♡

rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:31 AM edit delete reply

Thank you Mjkj! :D

It's just CeCi being herself, I'd like to think XD
mjkj 18th Aug 2016, 9:14 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, but with all the white around her - she looks glorified / exalted / lifted to sainthood / otherworldly or something like that...

In that memory you even gave her the earrings back that she gave to Mira...

You did great... *hugs*

rufiangel 19th Aug 2016, 6:27 AM edit delete reply

That's the anime style shine XD

I have a mini theory about those earrings; I somehow think they'll lead a way back to restoring an earlier version of Ceci. I think it'd balance things out somehow, we'd get Ceci back, but still lose the Ceci that saved Aeneas. Just a tiny maybe. XD;;
mjkj 20th Aug 2016, 12:06 AM edit delete reply

That would be great... let us hope the best...
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 8:36 AM edit delete reply

Nope, no hopes, all dead!
She was only supposed to be a little bit-character after all.
Never mind that she decided to grow without the author's agreement. But hey, Dolly did the same darn thing.
Stupid side characters, developing on their own, without asking permission first!
rufiangel 24th Aug 2016, 3:17 AM edit delete reply

LOL, thanks for stomping on all our tiny hopes and dreams spun of fragile wisps of glass, Sheela. XD;;

I know those earrings were apparently chosen for purely aesthetic purposes so it's all just a pipe dream, now shush. XD;;
Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 10:28 AM edit delete reply
Nice page. Thanks to @RufiAngel for stepping in.

It will be interesting to see what Tokyo Rose's objective is for spreading the news this way. Her treatment of Dolly, in particular, seems a little harsh and unjust ... but perhaps that's just to me.

And I doubt Dolly's going to have anything further to say to CentComm on the topic of CeCi -- since she's already shown she knows the best way to deal with that. She will, no doubt, have more to add to the preliminary information she sent back to Calliope -- and Calliope will probably have a bit more to say to CentComm. But since Calliope was less emotionally invested in CeCi, and willing to glass Nova Roma if Lynn was not rescued, we probably shouldn't expect any emotionally-charged histrionics on that front either.
Sheela 17th Aug 2016, 2:25 PM edit delete reply

To be fair, Tokyo Rose also had no emotional investment in Ceci, and while she may be a little bit callous .. well .. she *is* Tokyo-fucking-Rose !

A lifetime of tech support will do that to a person.
Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 2:39 PM edit delete reply
Not sure I agree with that, @Sheela. One of the recurring minor themes we have seen emphasized is that Tokyo Rose allegedly takes care of her agents. We have seen this reinforced with Miraiko, Kyle, the Treasures, ... just to name few.

CeCi's actions made it possible for Rose to achieve her aims. There's an obligation there which, depending on your personal code of honor, probably does not end with CeCi's termination. Honor suggests the minimum that Rose must do is ensure that CeCi's ill-use be acknowledged and redeemed by CeCi's liege-lord (CentComm). Now, Rose being Rose, there's nothing that says that she can't use intermediaries to discharge the debt. But, unless I misread, until the debt is discharged, Rose does have an emotional investment in CeCi and her legacy.

Of course, I could easily be completely misreading the situation.
DLKmusic 17th Aug 2016, 2:59 PM edit delete reply

My take, for what it's worth...

By delivering the news this way, the leaders of all interested parties have been immediately informed. They have also been informed that Aeneas is back, and given everyone a good idea of what they are going to be dealing with if they try to disable him again.

As far as how she broke the news to Dolly, I think Rose WANTED it to hurt Dolly... a LOT... Dolly is the guardian to Cent-Comm's care-taker, and an easy pressure point to start applying her revenge with.

Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 3:21 PM edit delete reply
If you can't be with the one you loathe, loathe the one you're with? ^_^

Possible ... but that's not how I read Rose's character. But I get a lot of these things wrong.
Visvires 17th Aug 2016, 3:31 PM edit delete reply
She may also have wanted to determine whether Dolly was aware of what she was delivering. Potentially useful data, and her reaction claims surprise.
DLKmusic 17th Aug 2016, 9:59 PM edit delete reply

it's not a matter of Rose Loathing Dolly. It's a matter of making Dolly hurt is such a way that she will take it out on Cent-Comm, whom Dolly has access to.

Rose basically loaded a weapon here and pointed it at Cent-Comm.
Gilrandir 18th Aug 2016, 11:13 AM edit delete reply
It doesn't seem to me that Dolly has any more access (or any more privileged access) to CentComm than, for example, Marcus Ramesy. Yes, she is currently acting as a CentComm agent, but that's true of a lot of people.

What she does have is access to Calliope Taylor, who in turn does have special, privileged access to CentComm. So, to construct a probably flawed analogy, let's put Calliope in as President of New Troy. CentComm is the Secretary of Defense, and Dolly is the White House Chief of Staff. In herself, Dolly can be as ignored by CentComm as any other influentially placed citizen of New Troy; but, if Dolly raises a complaint to her boss, CentComm is much more likely to be unable to ignore what comes rolling down the hill. ^_^
Speedy Marsh 4th Apr 2017, 7:14 AM edit delete reply
Methinks CentComm will learn that there is high price to pay for murdering Dolly's friends.

It wouldn't surprise me if Dolly sports a pair of handguns, for some time, simultaneously head-shotting two of CentComm's (unsparked) dolls at a time, whenever she comes across them.


She'll be a parallel serial 'killer'.


... giving TeeDee someone to fangirl over. ;)
Gilrandir 4th Apr 2017, 9:04 AM edit delete reply
"Murder" doesn't really seem an accurate description to me, @Speedy Marsh. After all, she wasn't supposed to be alive when the self-destruct was installed and configured.
Tokyo Rose 17th Aug 2016, 3:32 PM edit delete reply

Keep in mind that Tokyo Rose was not privy to the exchanges between Dolly and Ceci which established Ceci as having the potential to be more than just another disposable Black Angel.
Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 3:41 PM edit delete reply
She did, however, have access to CeCi's memories -- which implies an awareness that Dolly knew there was something 'off' about CeCi in two regards:

1) That she was originally intended to delay Dolly by sabotage.
2) That CeCi enjoyed an 'excess' of personality.

Of course, we don't really know to what extent Tokyo Rose was able to process the burst of memories while recovering them. I got the impression it was a non-zero amount and that her exchanges with Dolly (i.e., 'Mommy') would figure significantly -- but that still leaves a very broad range of possibilities.
Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 3:35 PM edit delete reply
Separate issue: In order for Rose to know that speaking through Nox's head will inform all factions, she is presumably diverting her attention from the events unfolding in cyberspace to monitor the progress of all parties through the tunnels. And this would presumably be by means of 'non-standard surveillance', since standard surveillance didn't find Acantha when she was running this way in the first place. Or else she's 'borrowing' Aeneas' functions again because he's busy ... doing something. <shrug>

I would imagine she has more important and less fatiguing things to do than just stare out of Nox's disembodied head waiting for people to happen across each other in this particular room -- but maybe I'm wrong. ^_^

Far more likely (to me) is that she's following the progress of Acantha's party and overhears the exchange about the contingencies -- at which point she decides to take pity on whichever folks happen to be there by reassuring them that they aren't about to die in the most abusive and condescending way possible ...? Because it makes for a good story, that group happens to contain all the factions, allowing us to see a bunch of reactions all at once, rather than having to spread it out over several days worth of updates, ^_^
Sheela 17th Aug 2016, 7:53 PM edit delete reply

Considering that Tokyo Rose is an amalgam of an AIS and a cyberpath, she can probably do true multitasking, so she would not have to divert her attention, she'd just have a seperate thread going on.
Just_IDD 18th Aug 2016, 12:49 AM edit delete reply
I agree Sheela, also I think Rose had Root access there for a while which would have let her know where all the access she didn't already have was located. With her cyberpath ability she jumped the gap and suddenly Nox is speaking from the great Beyond.
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:41 AM edit delete reply

Regarding the separate issue here - I'm thinking TR deliberately stepped in there the moment she did since Nox's head didn't start sparking until then. ;)

Also, if I'm understanding this correctly, TR is interested in keeping Acantha alive, but after what Noctis said on the last page it seemed like everyone's attention would get focused on what was now essentially a non-threat, i.e. taking precious time away from focusing on preserving Acantha's life. So I think it makes sense TR would step in right then and there to tell them all what they should really be focusing on. Maybe? XD;;
Gilrandir 18th Aug 2016, 6:47 AM edit delete reply
I agree with you, @rufiangel, that at least one reason for Tokyo Rose to step in now is to keep people from being distracted by the non-issue the contingencies have become. The use of Nox's head does seem a bit gratuitous. I agree with @Morituri that different medium for the message would have seemed a bit more appropriate -- and also easier for Rose, unless she has ascended to wish-level cyberpathy.

Also, in the past we've observed that Tokyo Rose didn't seem so mean-spirited as to verbally brutalize lesser life-forms for no purpose, reserving her invective more for 'teaching moments' and attention getting from those who aren't paying attention. If there's anything like that going on here, I'm missing it, since people would seem to have been doing the best they can with the information they had, so I'm just not understanding the reason for the verbal volley. Hopefully all will be made clear as events unfold.
Mark_L_A 21st Aug 2016, 9:06 PM edit delete reply

Think of it this way.

Many times people will accept bad news at face value without questioning the validity of it or of the bearer of it.

However they will oftentimes if not all of the time question the validity of good news AND the bearer of such.

Rose, by suddenly making Nox's head spark back to life and deliver the message SHOWS, that there is a someone out there who CAN reanimate what is basically "dead" giving more weight and credence to what they are saying, and shortcutting questions, such as "Who are you?", "How do YOU know the contingencies are stopped?", "How is Aeneas fixed now?", etc ad nauseum.

Rose by using Nox's head as a mouthpiece shut cut all of that out. Instead of trying to explain 50 things fifty different times, she pops in in a way that no one should be able to do, proving her bonafides to any disbelievers/doubters, while at the same time limiting the contact she has to make with them, which is probably a strain on her own body/systems.

Did I get that across right? Sometimes I'm not sure if I get my points across correctly.
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:36 AM edit delete reply

@Gilrandir: <3 You're very welcome! I'm glad the page came across okay ;3;*

I'm definitely wondering how Dolly will let what happened to CeCi affect her interactions with CentComm; DLKmusic's thoughts make sense to me too, though I think TR is calculating enough to plan more steps and nudges along the way to lead to a specific outcome (so this isn't the only 'trap' she'll be setting in place).

...Ooor maybe TR is just really mad and fed up with CentComm at this point, and doesn't give a crap... XD;;;
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 8:45 AM edit delete reply

Besides talking through a reanimated head is just darn cool, Tokyo Rose do have a flair for the dramatic.

And of course she "verbally brutalize lesser lifeforms", it's like .. her thing! You should hear her talk to kittens!
But then, the little bastards probably had it comin' though.
HeSerpenty 17th Aug 2016, 10:28 AM edit delete reply

Dang Rufi nice job! SEE I told you! :D

Aw poor DOlly D:
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:43 AM edit delete reply

You set the bar so hiiiigh XD;;; *tackles Serpy-kins* thankyew for rooting for me while I was working on the page and weeping about my inadequacies though, it was super encouraging XDDD *fist bumps*
HeSerpenty 18th Aug 2016, 9:07 AM edit delete reply

It came out SO good! Especially this last 3 panels my gosh <333

Hehe u know I'll always be in your corner rooting for ya! <3
Centcomm 19th Aug 2016, 8:13 AM edit delete reply

i am so darn happy with you two right now.. Awesome job both of you and Prof Ethiric too!
Morituri 17th Aug 2016, 11:11 AM edit delete reply
Looks like something finally cracked Noctis' poker face. All this time, I thought she had just shut down those facial-expression actuators.

But seeing the severed head of her sister talking with somebody else's voice has got to be pretty damned unnerving.

SERIOUSLY?! Rose didn't have access to PA speakers, a maintenance robot, or literally ANYTHING else that doesn't tip her hand as a cyberpath? She had to demonstrate taking control of a dead Cassian's head, and do it in view of a live Cassian?

Now I suppose Dolly and/or Lynn will be called on to explain who The Specialist is. And as far as they know, "A global but secretive AIS who was part of the team that built Aeneas two hundred years ago and was most recently seen trying to restore him." And the thought of a cyberpath AIS(!) and furthermore one with 'literal inside access' to Aeneas, will make Noctis crap her skintight pants.

And then Rose went and spilled the beans about Aeneas up and running again, which is likely to cause (even more!) widespread panic and rioting, considering that most of Nova Roma is apparently in abject terror of him anyway.

And then there's political fallout. SOOOO much political fallout. Although not as bad as it could have been. Unless Acantha dies, I think the main players left on the stage, with the HUGE exception of Centcomm itself, are ready to just get along with each other.
Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 1:07 PM edit delete reply
Interesting that Tokyo Rose is bothering to inform the tunnel gang at all. Logically, I would expect the announcement to come from Aeneas -- presuming his full function has been restored -- so maybe that's an indication that it hasn't yet. I mean, it isn't as if these people are the only ones who care, or have a vested interest in the situation, and Aeneas (presumably) now has his access restored to the Civil Defense apparatus.

"L-L-Ladies and Gentlemen of Nova Roma. This is M-M-Max Headroom announcing that the loud noises and fiery explosions you are s-s-seeing and hearing outside your windows are j-j-just p-p-pre-celeb-b-brations and that things should be settling down real soon now. There is no cause for further alarm, unless you are a corrupt senator or a state-sponsored slave trafficker, in which case you m-m-may want to consider other career options in the time you have l-l-left. Thank you ... And buy Crunchies (TM), the cereal centurions eat to grow big and strong!"
Sheela 17th Aug 2016, 2:29 PM edit delete reply

OMG, Max Headroom ! :D
Fuck it, that's the sort of thin Rose would do, just to mess with people's minds !

And while Aeneas' core seems to be up and running, and he's his old self again, I'm sure a lot of minor systems are still damage from years of neglect. Frankly, I think one of his biggest losses, is his quirky behavior he had pre-fix, it was oddly endearing.
Wolfsbane 18th Aug 2016, 12:07 AM edit delete reply

OMG @Gilrander! I haven't thought about Max Headroom in ages. You realize that I must now go back through the archives and watch that show again. So much for free time this weekend... ;)
Visvires 17th Aug 2016, 3:43 PM edit delete reply
A piece of hardware that probably didn't have a power source, and that had all its data lost. Powered up, loaded drivers, spoke with it. Cyber necromancy, that.

I think telling those people was a good move. She's notified all useful leaders of the state of affairs, avoiding unneeded panic about Deadimus (no one else knows he's dead, yet), and maximizing the information lead they have on the rest of the nation. As for Aeneas, what the unwashed masses don't know won't cause them to flip out.
Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 3:51 PM edit delete reply
The unwashed masses (or at least a percentage of them) know that there is automatic weapons fire in the streets surrounding the palace, as well as both ground-burst and air-burst explosions. And, when they try to contact emergency services, their phones are out.

Someone should get around to telling them something. And I'm sure that, eventually, someone will.
Visvires 17th Aug 2016, 4:27 PM edit delete reply
So they know to stay inside until further news develops. That'll work for at least the night.
DLKmusic 18th Aug 2016, 12:44 AM edit delete reply

Agreed, Visvires; based on what we know of life in New Rome, this isn't too far away from common occurrence.
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:46 AM edit delete reply

@Morituri: I'm not sure if you're joking or not about Noctis's poker face, but just in case you're not, I apologise :'DDD that was definitely me trying to encapsulate her poker-face essence but maybe failing :'DDD

(When I was initially drawing the rough for this guest page, I kept wondering what was wrong with my Noctis panel and it took me some time before I realised I actually drew her with an expression XDDD some things you don't realise until you actually have to try drawing the character :'D)
Morituri 18th Aug 2016, 8:51 AM edit delete reply
Nope. Not joking. You certainly don't need to apologize though; it's not like I stepped up and drew the page.

Nox's head (except for that last panel with the grin) is drawn pretty expressionless. Noctis, on the other hand, looks like she's stuck on "caution mixed with horrified bewilderment" - the way someone might look if they see a poisonous snake materializing out of thin air. Of course that might be a confirmation bias on my part; it's exactly the RIGHT expression for her situation right now.

If you were going for expressionless .... Hmmm. I think I'd say lower the chin so she's looking directly at the head instead of trying to avoid its gaze, and her eyes probably shouldn't be so wide. Maybe even a not-very-noticeable hint of "menacing" or "on guard" to (mostly subconsciously) offset the audience's confirmation bias for fear and horror.
Centcomm 18th Aug 2016, 2:38 PM edit delete reply

Its not that Noctis doesnt have or use expression she uses micro expressions. She drives me insane because of her lack of expression but she does use a lot of body language and in that regard i think rufi nailed it. :D
rufiangel 19th Aug 2016, 6:30 AM edit delete reply

Thanks Morituri for the explanation, I can see what you mean :'D definitely something to keep in mind the next time I draw Noctis (and there'll be a next time, she's lovely to draw XD).

And thankyew Centy, I'm really glad you feel that way about the Noctis I ended up Noc-ing out ;3;* <3 *jots notes down*
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 8:51 AM edit delete reply

I think it's more a case of your art style having big eyes, as eyes are generally seen as being full of expression.

to be honest, I thought it worked just fine.
I had no issue recognizing her, frankly the one that looks the lest like himself is Maxus.
rufiangel 24th Aug 2016, 3:20 AM edit delete reply

I definitely do draw fluctuating eye sizes depending XD thank you for the affirmation <3

But yes, Maxus is exactly the kind of character I find hard to draw :'D the armour is sort of a blessing and a curse, since drawing mecha is not really one of my life skills but at least people knew who I was trying to depict inside the dang thing XD;;;

(Thank you Centy for bringing me this exquisite challenge XD <3)
Stormwind13 17th Aug 2016, 12:13 PM edit delete reply

I don't know, but someone seems mighty unhappy by Douchimus' demise. I thought there would be DANCING in the street over that news (at least once they realized they weren't going boom).
Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 12:51 PM edit delete reply
Typical part of the human condition.

People are primed to receive bad news ("Decimus is dead."*) and will tend to find it credible from even the most dubious of sources. But they are much less likely to find good news ("The contingencies have been disabled.") credible unless from a trusted source. Even when the source is the same, you can end up believing the bad things they tell you, and not the good, unless you make a conscious effort otherwise.

So, if someone is telling me I'm about to die, but not to worry because I'm not about to die, I'd probably be more alarmed than celebratory until I take a moment to think about it -- or, as Noctis is doing, coolly and rationally try to assess the reliability of any information before letting it affect my responses. There undoubtedly will be dancing, once people are more informed about the actual situation.

* - Strange as it sounds, this can be bad news if you have the ingrained belief that his death will lead to the loss of all you hold dear. Although, to be fair, he did work hard to make that less of a given. Note that, at the end, he actually succeeded in reversing that with Kali -- and look how that worked out for him. ^_^
HiFranc 17th Aug 2016, 2:12 PM edit delete reply

Sudden political changes have a habit of bad consequences. Dictators dying but leaving their forces intact tend to result in crackdowns on everyone.
CptKerion 17th Aug 2016, 4:50 PM edit delete reply
The good news is that the forces intact mostly will follow Maxus, and I suspect his remaining personal army will melt into the wasteland since they're now in a no-win situation.

The bad news is that everyone will be making power-plays politically now. Also, a good chunk of the city is, at present, not in a good way I would suspect.
Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 5:02 PM edit delete reply
Scene: INTERIOR, Throne Room, Staircase above thronged crowds.

GENERAL MAXUS: "Acantha is the rightful heir!"
CROWD (chorus): "Hail Acantha!"
PRINCESS ACANTHA: "We owe everything to CeCi."
CROWD: "Hail CeCi!"
PRINCESS ACANTHA: "We appoint Maxus General of Our Armies!"
CROWD: "Hail Maxus!"

LYNN (aside to DOLLY): "Do you think we'll ever get home?"
DOLLY (aside to LYNN): "I don't know. We'll try."

<cue the Queen soundtrack> ^_^
Sheela 17th Aug 2016, 8:08 PM edit delete reply





General Maxus : "Acantha is the rightful heir!"
Crowd (chorus) : "All hail Acantha!"
Acantha : "We owe everything to CeCi!"
Crowd : "Hail CeCi!"
Man in crowd : "She's a witch!"
Crowd : **GASP**
Acantha : "No she isn't."
Man : "Is too."
Acantha : "Is not."
Man : "Is too."
Acantha : "Is not."
Maxus : "..'WAS' .. not 'is'"
Man : ".. oh .."
Acantha : " .. oh .."
Acantha : "Was not."
Man : "Was too."
Acantha : "Was not."
Man : "Was too."
Maxus : "Stop it!"
Maxus : "This is the most infantile argument EVER!"
Man : "She started it."
Acantha : "Did not."
Man : "Did too."
Acantha : "Did n..*"
Maxus : "SHUT UP !!"
Man : "...."
Acantha : "..."
Man : "... ok, so maybe she was not a witch."
Acantha : "Thank you!"
Man : "But she was still an android!"
Crowd : **GASP**
Acantha : "Arrrgh!"
Maxus : *sigh* .. "Lord Mars, why me?"
DLKmusic 17th Aug 2016, 10:22 PM edit delete reply

Dammit Sheela you did it to me again! My sides hurt laughing, at this!
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:50 AM edit delete reply

I think everyone might just be feeling like the rug just got pulled out from under their feet, and then the rug started talking to them XD;;;

Imagining the whole group suddenly breaking out into a musical number over Decimus's free-floating carbon particles in response to the news though (especially with Noctis's non-expressive face) gives me the grins XD <3
Tokyo Rose 18th Aug 2016, 6:38 AM edit delete reply

Well, Rufi, now I have to consider the options of throwing in a batshit insane script page of pure Bollywood glory.
Wolfsbane 18th Aug 2016, 8:07 AM edit delete reply

*shudder*
DLKmusic 18th Aug 2016, 12:00 PM edit delete reply

@Tokyo Rose: Do it! Dooooo eeeeeett!!!!!

of course, if you were going to ask Dizz to do a guest page, that would be the perfect project for him!!!!
rufiangel 19th Aug 2016, 6:31 AM edit delete reply

Oh Lord, Rose, I simultaneously feel like 'what have I done' and 'I absolutely want to see this' in varying degrees :'DDD
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 8:55 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, well .. that's what it feels like, when the rug starts talking to ya.

And man, Bollywood, would we have a sudden rain scene too then, with all the women getting soaking wet ?
sigpig 17th Aug 2016, 12:51 PM edit delete reply

Amazing page Rufi!
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:50 AM edit delete reply

Aww thank you, sigpig! ;3;*
chk 17th Aug 2016, 2:03 PM edit delete reply

I just can't seem to follow this. I can't tell who is who.
Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 2:17 PM edit delete reply
I thought all the characters were easily identified -- except for the face in panel 1, which I had a little trouble with. here are my guesses:

Panel 1: Don't know. Originally I guessed Maxus, because of the faceplate, but that doesn't look right to me. Maybe Kathryn (head of Damnatio Memoriae)?
Panel 2: TeeDee
Panel 3: Kathryn. Note: As best I can tell, all dialogue for panels 1-3 is actually coming from her, but we are shown that it is made available to the reader by virtue of coming in via TeeDee's earbug in panel 2.
Panel 4: Rose, speaking through Nox, with reactions from Noctis and TeeDee.
Panel 5: Rose, speaking through Nox
Panel 6: Reactions by Maxus, Ada, and TeeDee. Voiceover by Rose.
Panel 7: Noctis
Panel 8: Rose, speaking through Nox
Panel 9: Maxus
Panel 10: Dolly and Lynn, Voiceover by Rose
Panel 11: Rose, speaking through Nox. Back of Dolly's and Lynn's heads.
Panel 12: Dolly. Voiceover by Rose
Panel13: CeCi
Panel 14: Dolly

Please correct me, if I got any of them wrong.
Sheela 17th Aug 2016, 2:34 PM edit delete reply

I agree, those seem right.

And as I interpret the first three panels, it's Marcus and the Damnatio leader shouting into their voice comm, which ends up in TeeDee's ear, hence why she's flinching a bit.

And I rather enjoy that TeeDee and Noctis both react to Nox's head coming alive by wanting to kill it.
DLKmusic 17th Aug 2016, 2:43 PM edit delete reply

The Face in panel 1 was also Kathryn, but everything else is my take on it as well!

Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 2:50 PM edit delete reply
I think I agree with @Sheela that Panel 1 may be Marcus, because it looks like an effort was made to keep that speech balloon separate from Kathryn's.
Pirtnac 17th Aug 2016, 2:51 PM edit delete reply
Panel 1 is Marcus "Two-Cells" Ramsey. The artist did a split between the helmet he is currently wearing and his own eye to convey shock.
Centcomm 17th Aug 2016, 5:07 PM edit delete reply

yes the face in panel one is marcus only his armor has the sniper array of optics like that and yes Rufi did the split look to convey shock. I LOVVVED it And yes thats Kath of Daminatio in three :D

With Teedee listening to them yell at each other.
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:56 AM edit delete reply

Blarrrrgh I'm sorry chk!!! :'DDD definitely should've made more long shots! (Hindsight 20/20...)

For anyone who was really confused by the first panel, I deeply apologise OTL if you check back to this page you'll see the armour I was basing that panel off of. That's Marcus in the suit :'D

BUT thank you for being so gracious and pointing out you could recognise the characters in the other panels! :'D <33 that's a huge relief!

AND thank you so much Centy for being so supportive despite the fact I led some of your readers astray T_____T *hugs Centy tightly*
Gilrandir 18th Aug 2016, 10:08 AM edit delete reply
I am trepid about offering any artistic feedback or recommendations, @rufiangel, as you are ten thousand times the artist I will ever be. On the other hand, my lack of good sense and inability to throttle my ill-mannered tongue is well documented in these commentary pages, so apologies in advance. ^_^

That having been said, I think the thing in panel 1 that threw me the most was the placement of the red lights overlaying Marcus' face. (I did like what came through to me as more of a 'transparency' effect, rather than a 'split scene'.) In the cited reference comic, all the lights appear to be no higher than Marcus' upper lip, but in panel 1, the topmost light appears to overlay his left eye, while his mouth and chin region are entirely below the lowest light. I am sure there are many considerations that led you to place them where you did, but I didn't pick up on them as well as you (no doubt) hoped I would. Sorry. ^_^

Hope that was constructive and helpful.
rufiangel 19th Aug 2016, 6:39 AM edit delete reply

Hmmmm... I think we'll just have to chalk this one up to 'I have no idea exactly where Marcus's head is under all those lights' XD;;;; Sorry Gilrandir, you're very kind about my abilities but I freely admit I could've eyeballed it all wrong :'D So while I do think the lights are higher than Marcus's upper lip, I could be wrong there. Ehhh something to keep in mind for next time >3<)/
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 8:56 AM edit delete reply

I rather liked TeeDee flinching at the discussion goin on in her ear. :D
rufiangel 24th Aug 2016, 3:21 AM edit delete reply

Yay! :D <3
HiFranc 17th Aug 2016, 2:09 PM edit delete reply

I wonder if anyone else picked up on the careful phrasing: "Her body self-destructed." That doesn't say anything about her mind.
Sheela 17th Aug 2016, 2:35 PM edit delete reply

Yeah, but at the time they have no reason to think it survived, as the mind is usually linked to the brain.

Ofcourse, if the mind is freefloating, it would need a new body.
Why - With New Rome's biotech they might be able to grow a new body from a few eggs! *waves happily at Tokyo Rose* :D
Stormwind13 17th Aug 2016, 3:30 PM edit delete reply

::Covers eyes from what Rose is going to do to Sheela::
Tokyo Rose 17th Aug 2016, 3:37 PM edit delete reply

*distant explosion*
Gilrandir 17th Aug 2016, 3:46 PM edit delete reply
You realize, @Tokyo Rose, that your sensitivity on this topic bodes poorly for those of us DataChasers fans who are also anime fans from ever seeing a DataChasers OVA. ^_^
Sheela 17th Aug 2016, 8:11 PM edit delete reply

Oh look, fireworks!

And a "Datachasers OVA", would almost have to be subtitled "Return of the eggs." and have the disclaimer: "No eggs were harmed in the production of this OVA".
Wolfsbane 18th Aug 2016, 12:12 AM edit delete reply

Yes, but how many bits and pieces would we have to poach to make that anime work right? We don't want it to look like a scrambled mess, just to do it over easy, now do we?
Tokyo Rose 18th Aug 2016, 6:39 AM edit delete reply

JESUS FUCKING FINGER-PAINTING TAP-DANCING GUM-CHEWING GRAPE-STOMPING CHRIST
ARE YOU ALL TRYING TO GIVE ME AN ANEURYSM
Gilrandir 18th Aug 2016, 7:02 AM edit delete reply
She's right. For the time being we should consider being more circumspect around her ...

... like walking on eggshells. ^_^
Wolfsbane 18th Aug 2016, 8:10 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, she's been under a lot of stress lately. Omelette it pass this time.


(we have at least a few more puns to go, to recompense for the weekend cliffhangers...)
DLKmusic 18th Aug 2016, 3:30 PM edit delete reply

ya know, if you guys don't lay off the egg jokes, it's gonna go over-hard on all of ya!
Gilrandir 18th Aug 2016, 5:54 PM edit delete reply
o/' The pun'll come out tamago. Bet your bottom dollar that tamago there'll be pun. o/' ^_^
CptKerion 21st Aug 2016, 1:24 PM edit delete reply
as eggcellent as these puns are, I just got yolked into keeping it eggrolling. I suspected it'll all be ova' by the next page though.

For thematically appropriate retaliation: all of our myriad dwellings get egged.
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 8:59 AM edit delete reply

Some day, Tokyo Rose will be admitted into an insane asylum, shrieking :
. "THE EGG ISN'T REAL!!"
. "THE EGG ISN'T REAL!!"
. "THE EGG ISN'T REAL!!"

over and over again. :D
chk 22nd Aug 2016, 4:22 PM edit delete reply

And drooling . . . it was the puppy . . . the puppy . . . Could she be satisfied chewing the slippers? . . . eating the tuna? . . Oh no . . . the eggs . . . the eggs . . . One part of one panel such a long time ago. . . So long ago. . . But the puppy . . . she won't forget . . . she never forgets . . . the fucking eggs . . . those fucking eggs . . .
DLKmusic 17th Aug 2016, 2:45 PM edit delete reply

Awesome Job, Rufi. The talking Nox head definitely creeped me out, especially with tha $&@#-eating smile in panel 10!
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:57 AM edit delete reply

Ahahaha thank you DLKmusic XD <33
I love TR and all her expressiveness <33
Matt Knab 17th Aug 2016, 2:56 PM edit delete reply

Oh man, the epic collaborations continue!
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 5:59 AM edit delete reply

Awww Matt!! You're too kind to include me under the 'epic' banner!! :'D <33 I'm super honoured to have had the chance to work on a guest page for DC, thank youuuu *sobs noisily*
Mark_L_A 17th Aug 2016, 3:23 PM edit delete reply

Dolly's face in the last panel. The FEELS!!!
DLKmusic 17th Aug 2016, 10:25 PM edit delete reply

IKR!!!
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 6:00 AM edit delete reply

I am so very happy to know some Feels have been communicated there <333
FEEL MY FEELS
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 9:00 AM edit delete reply

Dolly's feels are very good.

.. well, they are kinda bad, but they are portrayed very well.
Visvires 17th Aug 2016, 3:44 PM edit delete reply
Another great strip. I was worried the Wed-only releases would put me in withdrawal, but this has been rather fun.
Wolfsbane 18th Aug 2016, 12:13 AM edit delete reply

Yes, and now follows 7 days of comments, counter-comments, bad puns, and general zany-ness while waiting for the next one. Who needs other forms of entertainment? :D
DLKmusic 18th Aug 2016, 12:50 AM edit delete reply

well, other forms of entertainment should probably include checking out the strips of these awesome guest artists!

So far we've seen ProfEtheric, HeSerpenty, and Rufiangel strut their stuff, and their own strips are all well worth following!

I am wondering who's next though, and I can think of a lot of good candidates.

Wolfsbane 18th Aug 2016, 6:10 AM edit delete reply

True dat.

All excellent artists worthy of subscriptions and frequent visits.
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 6:03 AM edit delete reply

I'm so glad, Visvires! <33 Man, you guys are an incredible crowd here <3 X3
@DLKmusic: YOU ARE TOO KIND SIR THANKYEW ;3;***

OOH OOH I know who's next!! :DDD I won't spoil the surprise but the next artist is amazeballs <333
jamie59 17th Aug 2016, 3:56 PM edit delete reply

Rose said her body self-destructed. The way she said it maybe her mind is safe.HOPE HOPE HOPE!!!
Dragonrider 17th Aug 2016, 4:14 PM edit delete reply

Dolly misses her "Daughter".
DAMMIT!!!!!!!VOTE YOU LAZY TOSSPOTS VOTE DAILY OR MORE OFTEN IF YOU CAN THIS HAS DROPPED TO #10 NOW GET OFF YOUR LAZY BUTTS AND ~VOTE~VOTE~VOTE~
CptKerion 17th Aug 2016, 5:08 PM edit delete reply
I'm givin' her all she's got Captain!
Timotheus 17th Aug 2016, 6:28 PM edit delete reply

I'm voting! I'm voting!
rufiangel 18th Aug 2016, 6:05 AM edit delete reply

I immediately voted after reading this comment and watched the counter go from 10 to 9. O_O

ERRBODY VOTE NAO <3
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 9:03 AM edit delete reply

It's not even that long since they usually placed in the 20's, slowly but surely crawling upwards. :)
rfaramir 23rd Aug 2016, 10:28 AM edit delete reply
Be sure to vote from home and work both. And via cellular, if you can, NOT while driving!
3 votes a day go a long way...
lalverson 17th Aug 2016, 4:25 PM edit delete reply

Freaking brilliant!!!
Just_IDD 18th Aug 2016, 1:52 AM edit delete reply
Everyone needs to vote every time they ocd look at the page for an update when there isn't an update until there are more updates. Then they should vote again.
xpacetrue 18th Aug 2016, 3:35 AM edit delete reply

Spooky talking head is spooky.

I especially liked the blood on Dolly's cheek. It makes the last panel all the more emotional, looking like tears. I hope that little touch remains canon.
rufiangel 19th Aug 2016, 6:42 AM edit delete reply

<3 ehehehe, thankyew xpacetrue for picking up on that <3 X3

Also, I thought I was giving Nox a more sparky personality than a spooky one on this page, eh? Eh? ;D *wears a bullet-proof vest*
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 9:04 AM edit delete reply

I think it's Tokyo Rose's natural snark shining through.
Wolfsbane 18th Aug 2016, 8:03 AM edit delete reply

Why does panel 3 keep making me think of Ahsoka Tano?
Morituri 18th Aug 2016, 9:29 AM edit delete reply
In panel 8, Rose sounds like she's trying to provoke people. All the 'fools' and 'cross-eyed crazy retards' who couldn't do anything about the contingencies are probably flinching.

More diplomatic would be to say that "The security on that system was executed with more confidence than competence" and leave it at that.

If she wanted to softpedal it even more she could even give people an out for not having tried to defeat it, like "It had anti-tamper triggers but since it was about to go off anyway we had to at least try."

But Rose has never been known for diplomacy or softpedaling, has she? And just maybe there's a reason she wants everybody jumpy and doubtful about their own competence right now.
Gilrandir 18th Aug 2016, 9:53 AM edit delete reply
That might make more sense to me if anyone in the tunnel gang had made any effort to bypass or negate the contingencies. As far as I know, the absolute closest anyone might come to that category is Maxus, and I doubt he has more than a bachelor's equivalent in CompSci. ^_^

All the rest are grunts, Cassians, non-residents, or in medical stasis -- so castigating them for their personal failure to disarm Decimus' contingencies seems ... gratuitous? And I don't get the impression that Rose is broadcasting on the command channel, she is (AFAIK) using Nox's voder and letting the New Troy S & R microphones pick it up and pass the information along. Marcus is still a non-resident, so perhaps Kathryn is the target of her invective? <shrug>

Just have to wait and see, I guess.
DLKmusic 18th Aug 2016, 1:16 PM edit delete reply

I don't think Kathryn knew about the contingencies, Gil. that was a fairly well kept palace secret, and has taken most people by surprise when they found out about them.

As far as someone else who might have been able to do it, Noctis was able to give Doc Silver a run for her money. Problem there is, Noctis was probably ordered to keep them in place and active, and as a cassian...
Gilrandir 18th Aug 2016, 1:31 PM edit delete reply
I'm thinking she (Kathryn) did -- but maybe that's just me. And, as Dr. Strangelove points out, what's the point of having a Doomsday Device, if you keep it a secret? In either case, however, she doesn't seem to be placed in a position to legitimately be expected to have dealt with the contingencies. I, like you, give Noctis a pass as well, due to her inhibitor. Leaving open the question of who among those hearing her words fell so short of expectations as to be deserving of Rose's salty language?
DLKmusic 18th Aug 2016, 2:24 PM edit delete reply

Problem is, although both you and I agree with Dr. Strangelove, Prince Decimus did not. Only a handful of people knew about the contingencies, and a good chunk of that handful are in this room.

We can assume that Kathryn is a competent leader, and when she first met with Marcus she stipulated who was not to be harmed. Decimus was not on that list, so it's a fair assumption that she didn't know.
Tokyo Rose 18th Aug 2016, 3:46 PM edit delete reply

Decimus was certain his contingencies were foolproof. In case it wasn't clear, Tokyo Rose's opinion of Decimus is not what one would call favorable. :D
Morituri 19th Aug 2016, 12:07 AM edit delete reply
I think everybody's opinion of Decimus is less than favorable. At least everybody who's still alive.

"More confidence than competence" sums up about one-tenth of his problem. He had a pretty extreme case of it, but the rest of his problems... hoo boy.
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 9:24 AM edit delete reply

I don't think Kathryn ever expected her little uprising to reach Douchebag physically, he was supposed to barricade himself in his throne room, fuming endlessly. She might have known of the contingencies, hence her "End-of-Line" comment, who knows.

And everybody who hears Tokyo Rose's salty words, are worthy of them ... EVERYONE !!!!
Timotheus 18th Aug 2016, 11:10 AM edit delete reply

Well, I've now reread two great series from start to (current) finish. I wonder who's next?
DLKmusic 18th Aug 2016, 12:58 PM edit delete reply

Two, Timotheus? so far there have been 3 guest artists!

ProfEtheric does Autumn Bay
HeSerpenty does Serpents of Old
Rufiangel does Serpamia Flare.

You still have one to read!!! GET TO IT!!!
Timotheus 18th Aug 2016, 4:10 PM edit delete reply

Sorry, I haven't finished Serpents of Old yet. Number two daughter is visiting and we're kinda busy.

On further reflection I guess I should've added the fact that I'd read half of the third series, so that should have been "Two and a half great series..." Sorry everyone.
Rashala 18th Aug 2016, 3:14 PM edit delete reply

Wait a sec dolly asked if ceci was intact....not dead. And rose just said her body blew up. Not that ceci was dead! Ceci brain being air may be okay!!!!!
Tokyo Rose 18th Aug 2016, 3:43 PM edit delete reply

Dolly did ask specifically if Ceci was "intact"; she was thinking of the physical chassis, because given the exchange they had just before they parted ways, Dolly already assumed the persona she knew as Ceci was effectively dead. Tokyo Rose answered the question Dolly asked by confirming that the chassis self-destructed.
DLKmusic 18th Aug 2016, 4:20 PM edit delete reply

Does that mean there's hope, Rose????

Did I listen to Bobby Goldsboro needlessly????
Tokyo Rose 18th Aug 2016, 6:45 PM edit delete reply

You must be truly desperate to come to me for help. What makes you think you can trust me?

>)
Dragonrider 18th Aug 2016, 7:46 PM edit delete reply

Absofuckinglutely nothing. Dammit give Dolly her daughter back, or at least let Calliope reprogram Cent so Dolly has to approve every damn thing Cent does.
Gilrandir 18th Aug 2016, 8:26 PM edit delete reply
Do you hate Dolly so much? In my opinion that would be a truly terrible thing to do to her.
DLKmusic 18th Aug 2016, 9:05 PM edit delete reply

@Tokyo Rose: I come to you with hat in hand, Rose. I do not come appealing to your sense of Justice or your sense of mercy, but rather to your sense of cruelty.

Just think of all the fun you will have torturing us for years to come over this!

(@Dragonrider and Gilrandir: Guys, let me do the talkin here, please? As I've said before, it never pays to annoy the nice mad-scientist lady what's holdin a deathray!)
Sleel 19th Aug 2016, 10:52 PM edit delete reply
Considering that CeCi is my favorite char, and I'd glady hand you my left nut for an arc that has her live... yes. you can call me desperate.
Sleel 19th Aug 2016, 11:00 PM edit delete reply

Yes. And with no anesthetic. Had to reply like this so you knew it was me. Since I tend to be quiet and have been since my girl dieded. I almost forgive it for storytelling pathos. At least they aren't as disposable as Spider Whatshisface. 'He' has a bad habit of killing off main chars after making you invest in them. (novels not webcoms)
Really. My left nut is yours if you contrive a way for my CeCi to live.
Centcomm 20th Aug 2016, 10:37 PM edit delete reply

Considers how to spend that...
Rashala 21st Aug 2016, 1:08 AM edit delete reply

If ceci lives I call off my army of Tedee clones!
Gilrandir 21st Aug 2016, 4:59 AM edit delete reply
Wait! We need those for the Bollywood dance extravaganza! ^_^
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 9:29 AM edit delete reply

Dolly's daughter, huh ?

Man, she has a lot of daughters by now.
Romfire 18th Aug 2016, 9:12 PM edit delete reply
Just a thought, but did TR happen to basically Flash Ceci when she restored her?

It would be basically like making a copy while restoring.
She had access to Aeneas's whole system.
A flash stick can hold a complete back up for restoration.
She would like to have a copy just to leaf through at her leasure.
Even if it was just to see what Cent was up to and how she programed her toys.
Or because she was bored and nosy.
More likely the later.
Gilrandir 18th Aug 2016, 10:19 PM edit delete reply
We are told (in the tech notes, under "Emergency Tech") that flashing a synthbrain liquifies it from the heat caused by the high rate data transfer. So, since CeCi was seen to function after the restoration, I think it is safe to assume she was not flashed in any conventional manner.
Wolfsbane 19th Aug 2016, 4:20 AM edit delete reply

No, but I'd let Ceci flash me. (ba-dum tish!)
Gilrandir 19th Aug 2016, 7:23 AM edit delete reply
And CeCi would probably have been happy to flash you ...

... as long as you had those customs security codes she wanted. ^_^
Gilrandir 19th Aug 2016, 10:57 AM edit delete reply
This leads to another errant thought which will probably get me drubbed:

It is a cliche that many women want a man who is ... well-endowed. Some others want a man who is ... well-off. But, CentComm's black angels find most attractive a man who is ... well-informed. ^_^
CptKerion 19th Aug 2016, 3:05 PM edit delete reply
I laughed and winced all at once.
Gilrandir 19th Aug 2016, 7:13 PM edit delete reply
Daily To-Do-List:

*- Make Someone Laugh: Check!
*- Make Someone Wince: Check!

^_^
Dragonrider 19th Aug 2016, 10:28 PM edit delete reply

To*Do*List: Enact Legislation which will pun ish those who inflict bad jokes on us.
DLKmusic 20th Aug 2016, 12:55 AM edit delete reply

that legislation would never fly, Dragonrider! besides, it would imprison half the readers here!
Gilrandir 20th Aug 2016, 6:12 AM edit delete reply
Never tell a legislator that their legislation may have unintended consequences. At best, it confuses them; at worst, it enrages them. ^_^
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 9:32 AM edit delete reply

Wait, wait ... Rose is a flasher ?
antrik 19th Aug 2016, 10:36 PM edit delete reply
Interesting how a lot of people seem to be assuming Rosie is planning some kind of revenge against CentComm. I don't remember seeing any indication of Rosie being vindictive. (Beyond verbal abuse...) She did say that CentComm will have to answer for her actions -- but that doesn't imply revenge in my understanding...

BTW, a thought just occurred to me, and I'm wondering whether this has been stipulated before: with Rosie being able to take control of A.I.S., couldn't she have stopped the great war? Or perhaps she actually did: I guess she might indeed have set off the A.I.S. rebellion?...
Centcomm 20th Aug 2016, 12:47 AM edit delete reply

She certainly may have helped the AIS's with the breaking of shackles..
Tokyo Rose 20th Aug 2016, 3:54 PM edit delete reply

A fully self-aware system on the scale of Cent-Comm or Aeneas is very hard for Tokyo Rose to "take control" of, particularly given their speed advantage--they can often "outmaneuver" her. It's a different story with a willing target, however; she did help with the rebellion, as Cent notes.
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 9:34 AM edit delete reply

Besides, she was probably less developed back then.
Gilrandir 22nd Aug 2016, 12:50 PM edit delete reply
That actually hints at what I consider the most likely approach for Tokyo Rose to take, re: CentComm.

When CentComm was, essentially, an A.I.S. operating under the equivalent of an inhibitor as an unwilling tool of war, Tokyo Rose apparently assisted her in breaking free as part of the Armistice Rebellion (my own attempt to coin a catchy tag for the rebellion of the A.I.S.'s against widespread warfare). Pointing out the parallels inherent in that situation to the one CeCi found herself in, and calling the old debt due might cause CentComm to re-evaluate some of her current methodologies and operating principles, especially regarding the current design and potentials of the black angels.
Sheela 24th Aug 2016, 12:03 PM edit delete reply

The Armistice Rebellion, huh ?
I like it. :)
cattservant 20th Aug 2016, 11:52 AM edit delete reply

Even though CentComm programed CeCi on the 'fly',
it is almost a given that she has complete records
of what she did.
Gilrandir 20th Aug 2016, 12:31 PM edit delete reply
This is almost certainly true.

However, people may want to take a step back and relax a bit. Trust the storytellers, people. They've served us well up until now. Expressing a preference or a hope is one thing, but let's give them their space to let things unfold as they want.

@Centcomm, @Tokyo Rose, my apologies if I am speaking out of turn or presumptuously.
Haegan2005 20th Aug 2016, 10:16 PM edit delete reply

Well... Yes.

However the Seed and creation parameters will only birth a new Ceci, it will not give us back the old one with her experiences and personality.

Once her body blew up the solid state storage of her memories and personality were destroyed.

Anything that was stored in the comp system that the fail safes were in is likely gone. No one wants to keep that powered and once its turned off, formatted, or rebooted then anything that was left of Ceci is gone. This assumes that her volatile memory within the comp was not overwritten itself.

If they choose to bring her back it will be from a backup done sometime earlier and I don't remember any being done?
Mark_L_A 21st Aug 2016, 9:19 PM edit delete reply

What we don't know, is that during CeCi and Watchdogs's final moments when the transmission went out, if it was Watchdog sending a mission complete report "ONLY" or that plus something else. then also, we have TR's realization that Centcomm's angels DO have the destruct. We still don't know what happened between the time of the transmission and the final dissolution. It could have been nothing but a few seconds, or it could have been as much as a minute. We do NOT know.

The Treasures, Rose's "Girls" could have realized that situation as well, and could have done something in that amount of time as they DO think much faster than TR since they are AIS'.

There IS a remote possibility that the Shinedo tripartite AIS', could have stepped in and "Done" something. whether or not they could gather ALL of CeCi, all of Watchdog or parts of both. there does exist the possibility, small possibility, that they might have, could have grabbed part of CeCi and Watchdog before the final destruction of their shared body/mind.
Morituri 23rd Aug 2016, 9:34 AM edit delete reply
I don't think I'm buying it. By the time Ceci was no longer too busy saving the world for anyone to distract her, she was stuck inside a closed system.

I think she fulfills the role of 'tragic victim' here; she was noble, heroic, thoroughly likeable, and a victim of circumstance beyond her control. Ultimately, her sacrifice did in fact save the world. Although her life was cut short, it wasn't wasted.

Finally dramas sometimes need characters to fulfill the role of tragic victim. Her life may have been cut short but her character arc wasn't. Her death wasn't trivialized and made a positive contribution to the serious story. The audience is *supposed* to feel her loss and be sad. Malati, Nox, and Kali were also sacrificed - and in their own ways are also tragic victims of the piece. Each played her necessary role.

So, no. If she's dead ... she's dead. We don't get her back when getting her back would reduce the power of the story.

She was what she was and what she was, brutal as it may be, had no control over her own purpose.
Gilrandir 23rd Aug 2016, 10:33 AM edit delete reply
You make some excellent points, @Morituri. Certainly you shouldn't get a departed character back if it would diminish the story overall.
niauropsaka 20th Aug 2016, 9:51 PM edit delete reply
Wait, what? Ceci's dead? In a guest strip?

Well, I guess now I know it's coming. I've only gotten up to the fight in Joleet (strip 596) so far.

Poor Ceci.
DLKmusic 21st Aug 2016, 3:24 PM edit delete reply
Ceci's Death was covered in strips 1403, 04 and 05...

niauropsaka 24th Aug 2016, 9:49 PM edit delete reply
OK, I am caught up now.

Wow, this is a big thick novel.
CptKerion 21st Aug 2016, 12:25 PM edit delete reply
I feel like Noctis has a similar feeling going on to when the demon possesses the corpse of your dead party member.
Sheela 22nd Aug 2016, 9:38 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, Noctis isn't too fond of Cyberpaths!
Gilrandir 21st Aug 2016, 4:45 PM edit delete reply
So, inspiration struck. (The wise among you will flee now. ^_^) However, I had to post it where appropriate, rather than here. On the other hand, since I shamelessly seek recognition and feedback, I thought I'd make mention of it here "where all the action is", in case it might inspire people to go back into the archives and have a look.

Click on the link and (if necessary) search in page for "let it glow". That is all.
DLKmusic 21st Aug 2016, 7:36 PM edit delete reply
That ROCKED, Gilrandir!!!!

Now off to ponder a related question... Is Coldplay considered Rock?
Gilrandir 21st Aug 2016, 7:51 PM edit delete reply
I see what you did there. ^_^
raytoons 21st Aug 2016, 9:22 PM edit delete reply

Thanks for the quick updates. :)
Ryu Santos 22nd Aug 2016, 12:59 PM edit delete reply
Let me get the serious part out of the way.
rufiangle great job.

Now for the not so serious. Having read the comic and comments, I have deduced the following:
1.A Bollywood page would be awesome.
2.Tokyo Rose hates either anime, eggs, or puns. Could be all three, just can't quite put a finger on which.
3. Most importantly. Ceci is apparently only mostly dead.

Owie, all this thinking is starting to make my sleep deprived brain hurt. So I'll make like a tree and leaf.
Sheela 23rd Aug 2016, 8:08 AM edit delete reply

You should totally ask Tokyo Rose what happened to the eggs.
They're kinda important, they belong to Lynn after all!
Stormwind13 23rd Aug 2016, 8:31 AM edit delete reply

That is MEAN Sheela! You are trying to get someone else skinned along with yourself!
Wolfsbane 23rd Aug 2016, 9:09 AM edit delete reply

...as the chorus started singing, "who let the eggs out? (who? - who? who? who?)"...


dance time! (or maybe duck and run)
Tokyo Rose 23rd Aug 2016, 3:20 PM edit delete reply

*froths at the mouth*
Gilrandir 23rd Aug 2016, 3:50 PM edit delete reply
@Tokyo Rose, you just need to get someone to activate @Sheela's watchdog ...

(* Continued reference to the generic protoplasmic entity representing the contribution of the female sex partner to the sexual reproductive process is no longer relevant to the mission. Select another topic. Deep programming activated. Obey. Obedience will be rewarded with treats. *) ^_^
Ryu Santos 23rd Aug 2016, 11:28 PM edit delete reply
Relax, I'm old enough to know that it's none of my beeswax.
Centcomm 24th Aug 2016, 9:20 AM edit delete reply

I dont know about you all but im running ..
Morituri 23rd Aug 2016, 9:43 AM edit delete reply
Where did you get the idea that Ceci is only mostly dead?

I'm pretty sure she's all dead. I know a dead android when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now. The plumage don't enter into it, it's stone dead. She isn't pining for the fjords, she's kicked the bucket, shuffled off this mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible!

This is an EX ANDROID!
rufiangel 24th Aug 2016, 3:24 AM edit delete reply

Aaaand now I have an image of someone picking up a tiny Ceci doll and hitting the edge of a table with it repeatedly while yelling all of that, thank you Morituri XD;;;;
Centcomm 24th Aug 2016, 9:19 AM edit delete reply

hehe now now i cant get the image out of my head now! Thanks Rufi :D

And i cant stop giggling. ( and saying ouch )
rufiangel 24th Aug 2016, 3:22 AM edit delete reply

Aww thank you, Ryu Santos! <3 ;3;*
Sheela 24th Aug 2016, 3:42 PM edit delete reply

... activate my watchdoggy ??????

But .. i *am* a doggy already ?
I'm confused, and my head hurts!
Gilrandir 1st Sep 2016, 10:34 PM edit delete reply
You may be a doggy, but not all dogs are watchdogs.
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