Comic 1484 - Catching Up

2nd May 2017, 9:00 PM
Catching Up
Average Rating: 5 (25 votes)
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Mark_L_A 2nd May 2017, 9:03 PM edit delete reply

Ok, NOW 'Cantha isn't tracking quite right. Then again, who would be?
Sheela 2nd May 2017, 11:05 PM edit delete reply

She tracking just fine, it's just that the normal way to track is unhealthy for her.

She couldn't know that, it's not the way she normally is.
mjkj 2nd May 2017, 9:03 PM edit delete reply


...poor Acantha... *gently hugs her*

jamie59 2nd May 2017, 9:10 PM edit delete reply

LOL! Love that last panel & the last bubble is best!
Dragonrider 2nd May 2017, 9:11 PM edit delete reply

This last statement by Acantha puts her relationship with Kali in a completely different light. Kali a nanny? Move over Robin Williams.
Sheela 2nd May 2017, 11:07 PM edit delete reply

We have known that Kali had unusual status as the family retainer for a while, she was practically family.

She was a Guardian, the equivalent of what Dolly is for Lynn, *they* also don't always see eye-to-eye, but Lynn didn't have Decimus to ruin it even further.
MirrorField 2nd May 2017, 11:18 PM edit delete reply
Guardian indeed. Dolly, however, probably doesn't have a license to kill comparable to Saddam's Mukhabarat...
mjkj 2nd May 2017, 11:12 PM edit delete reply

Well, she was different before douchie - and she became Kali afterwards - she changed...

Edit: Well, IIRC she was Parvati before...

antrik 3rd May 2017, 1:19 PM edit delete reply
@mjkj IIRC we were told in a comment once that she actually changed into Kali already before his time...
HiFranc 2nd May 2017, 11:31 PM edit delete reply

Not surprising - we know that she took over raising Decimus when his mother tried to kill him (saving him is something that Kali regrets). In the scene where she tells their father about Decimus's bullying, she has obviously monitored their play.
antrik 3rd May 2017, 1:45 PM edit delete reply
I'm not sure how literal Acantha's use of "nanny" is meant to be. In retrospect, it does actually fit though with what we knew of Kali so far... Just seems surprising that she would be nanny and Cassian princeps at the same time. Unless she only became princeps later?...
Tokyo Rose 3rd May 2017, 2:32 PM edit delete reply

Keep in mind that during Valerius's reign, the Cassians weren't the terror-sledgehammers that Decimus turned them into. Kali wasn't the primary "nanny" for the kids--there was a human for that--but she was sort of the supervisor, along with directing the Cassians.
Sheela 3rd May 2017, 2:52 PM edit delete reply

If I understand it correctly, the Cassians were originally supposed to be a sort of group of bodyguards with extended priveledges, so as to allow them to go out and remove the threat to their wards (the Livius family), before it was too late. Yes, they killed, but they were not meant to be assassins per se.

Kinda like how a Royal Guard from medieval times would have "worked around the law", in order to protect their King and country.
Gilrandir 3rd May 2017, 2:58 PM edit delete reply
Well, the "Royal Guard" of Roman civilization was known as the Praetorian Guard, and I think the DataChasers' Praetorians provide an excellent example of how well a police/guard corps with special extra-legal privileges works out as a rule. ^_^

Not that I am disagreeing with any part of your hypothesis, @Sheela.
megados 3rd May 2017, 4:22 PM edit delete reply

@Sheela, that is also how I understand it. Some of Noctis' statements, at times, refer and allude to the Halcyon times of Valerius' reign. She has expressed her desire to recreate the Nova Roma that existed during that time. I think that with Acantha as a benevolent ruler, she sees a way forward, and that she wants the Cassians to be associated more with honor and less with fear. (Don't worry there will still be fear.)
megados 2nd May 2017, 9:23 PM edit delete reply

Ohhh, the weight of reality is setting in. I feel bad for her having to process this right now.

Noctis knew about Kali's inhibitor reprogramming. Why would she know that? Hmmm.
Timotheus 2nd May 2017, 11:05 PM edit delete reply

Perhaps because she's second in command and would have to take Kali's place if anything happened to Kali, and that might include the transfer of special or specific orders that apply only to the Cassian Primus. In other words, Noctis would be aware of them but they would not be active or apply to her unless something happened to Kali.
Sheela 2nd May 2017, 11:13 PM edit delete reply

Or maybe Kali simply told the others.

Or maybe even Noctis received some similar programming.
Like, if any of the Cassians see Kali roughing up Decimus, they should not interfere, it's part of her programming if he hurts Acantha - Otherwise they'd just have to stop her.
megados 3rd May 2017, 6:14 AM edit delete reply

In thinking about it, those are all good reasons. The reason I asked about it was the flashback seemed to make it seem more secretive. Looking back at it, I guess my interpretation was skewed somehow. There really shouldn't have been any reason to keep it a secret, especially among the Cassians.
chk 3rd May 2017, 7:37 AM edit delete reply

I suspect Noctis knows a lot of things.
megados 3rd May 2017, 10:36 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, it was stupid on my part, of course she does. >_< There is probably very little that any one Cassian knows that the others don't.
Gilrandir 2nd May 2017, 9:42 PM edit delete reply
Disclaimer: I am not any kind of trained medical professional or therapist. I have never (to my knowledge) had traumatic amnesia, nor had any acquaintance suffering from traumatic amnesia.

All that having been said, it seems to me that it might not be the wisest course of action to immediately confront someone suffering from traumatic amnesia with the full details of the trauma from which they have retreated. (I'm looking at you, Lynn Taylor. ^_^) A more gradual introduction of the salient details into the discussion might be in order.

Still ... she's helping. ^_^
Tokyo Rose 2nd May 2017, 11:43 PM edit delete reply

Well, yeah, but Lynn's not a therapist either...
Sheela 3rd May 2017, 6:57 AM edit delete reply

True, but a therapist *should* have told the people who's there to hold back a bit.

It's not like it's the first time something like that happens.
megados 3rd May 2017, 7:06 AM edit delete reply

@Centcomm had mentioned that this was a hastily set up medical bay and not an actual hospital. They maybe did not have benefit of therapeutic personnel at short notice. It kind of shows that Lynn is still young and impulsive, having a tendency to blurt out information, rather than hold back.
antrik 3rd May 2017, 1:28 PM edit delete reply
I read that remark a bit differently... And it was just a cover-up ;-)

Either way, no reason why they couldn't get in the needed personnel in time -- they had many hours. I guess we just have to chalk it up under "they didn't think of this"...
KarToon12 3rd May 2017, 6:34 PM edit delete reply

I'm sure withholding any information right now would just make Acantha ask even more questions. I think it IS best to just tell her the hard truth. Though I DO agree that Lynn could've spoken said truth just a TINY bit more gently.
megados 4th May 2017, 6:46 AM edit delete reply

@KarToon12, the truth is always best; what Lynn could have done, though, would have been to acknowledge that she shot Decimus, but she could have saved the bit about Kali until a little later. It would have come up on its own anyway. There is enough to process without piling on! :D
antrik 4th May 2017, 2:06 PM edit delete reply
@KarToon12 well, she *could* have tried deflecting with something like, "You don't remember? You got wounded when we had to return to the palace while Aeneas was rebooting..." I don't know whether Acantha would have let it rest at that -- but I think it would have been worth a shot :-)
All the Pickles 4th May 2017, 4:46 PM edit delete reply

Since Acantha had already asked about Decimus and Kali, and Noctis said they're dead, I doubt she would leave it alone without finding out what happened.
The Old Scribe 2nd May 2017, 10:00 PM edit delete reply

Considering the fact that Acantha's experienced a life threatening trauma, followed by a hyper sonic aircraft ride and an artificial heart implant, it might just be the time for a dose of happy juice. She can stroll down memory lane later when she's recovered.

Kali as a nanny? That'd be like having Nurse Ratched as your baby sitter.
Sheela 2nd May 2017, 11:10 PM edit delete reply

We knew she was a Guardian, and also the family retainer, and she was worried about Decimus tormenting Acantha.

This is all canon, and a very salient point of the story.
Guardian vs guardian, normalcy vs. madness, nature vs. nurture.
Haegan2005 2nd May 2017, 10:27 PM edit delete reply

Kali... A nanny.

No compute.

On the flip side, someone would only bully you once.
Timotheus 2nd May 2017, 11:07 PM edit delete reply

Oh Kali Poppins was her name, Kali Poppins was her name, she strode through Nova Roma with her Katana...
All the Pickles 3rd May 2017, 2:36 AM edit delete reply

Hmm, now I'm imagining Kali singing "A Spoonful of Sugar" and things are approaching Mockingbird level disturbing. Not that I'd have a problem with another such story...
Sheela 2nd May 2017, 11:11 PM edit delete reply

Kali is a Guardian, much like Dolly.
But Decimus used direct orders to ruin her.

And someone also only bully you once with Dolly around, neither Dolly, nor Kali, would accept such behavior towards their wards.
megados 3rd May 2017, 2:33 PM edit delete reply

Yeah, Decimus drove her to despair. So much built up rage and hopelessness, I felt kinda sorry for her toward the end; started to like her, too.
Calimachus 2nd May 2017, 10:37 PM edit delete reply
Just love Acantha's summary.....
The Sunny Side of Life 2nd May 2017, 10:52 PM edit delete reply
It may be a shot in the dark, but Acantha may be feeling stabbed in the chest over this explosive revelation. Hopefully this will fire her resolve to take action. With a new heart, perhaps she'll lead New Rome to a new heartfelt peace.
Tokyo Rose 3rd May 2017, 2:33 PM edit delete reply

*silent, judgmental stare*
Just_IDD 3rd May 2017, 4:04 PM edit delete reply
@The Sunny Side of Life That's just what I Eggspected you to say!
Sheela 3rd May 2017, 11:17 PM edit delete reply

As the Senate sits and bickers
The fiery flames flickers

In the eyes of Setorius the Priest
Who carries a most unusual feast

A small petri dish omelet
Made with scorn and hatred

Rose fans the flames and wonder
"Why, oh why, do I hunger?"
guest1 2nd May 2017, 11:18 PM edit delete reply
now would be the time i wood say 3cc of thorazine,,,, but thats bad for a heart patient... soo how bout diazepam 2mg...IV drip...
Tokyo Rose 2nd May 2017, 11:46 PM edit delete reply

From personal experience, Cent can speak well of IV-drip Ativan, but only for like a half a second, because that shit kicks in amazingly fast and turns her into a burbling space cadet.
Centcomm 3rd May 2017, 1:22 AM edit delete reply

Ad... A.. Vannnnnnn... drops into blissful burbling.
Sheela 3rd May 2017, 6:58 AM edit delete reply

Ah, it's the good stuff, then. :)
Tokyo Rose 3rd May 2017, 2:37 PM edit delete reply

The morning of her surgery, Cent was understandably very scared and tense. Mr. Black and I accompanied her to the OR waiting room, Mr. Black said a prayer that sort of helped settle her a little, and then they gave Cent a shot of Ativan to start easing her down for anesthesia. She went from DEFCON 2 to Happy Cross-Eyed Hippie Land in literal seconds. Some might say they could see a patience's cognizance "trickle" away with that stuff; I am convinced that I watched it spurt out of her ears.
Sheela 3rd May 2017, 2:55 PM edit delete reply

Definitely the good stuff then. :)
guest1 3rd May 2017, 5:05 PM edit delete reply
ok..WOW the really good stuff..
megados 3rd May 2017, 5:16 PM edit delete reply

"A patience's", and not, "a patient's" cognizance? Color me confused, @Tokyo Rose °~°
antrik 3rd May 2017, 6:14 PM edit delete reply
The world must be ending. Is it the horsemen of the apocalypse I see approaching?...
chk 3rd May 2017, 6:21 PM edit delete reply

Far out.
Centcomm 4th May 2017, 7:56 PM edit delete reply

i think it all dribbled out .. along with a few pints of my blood...
Rashala 2nd May 2017, 11:57 PM edit delete reply

Nope sound like good OK acantha there at the end :)
megados 3rd May 2017, 12:59 PM edit delete reply

She is coming up to speed! She's doing a great job of making sense of this mess. Definitely OK so far! :)
cattservant 3rd May 2017, 12:17 AM edit delete reply

New patterns emerging from the loom...
megados 3rd May 2017, 6:57 AM edit delete reply

Textiles with Texture!
Fairportfan 3rd May 2017, 1:31 AM edit delete reply

"I WILL sedate you."

Not only is your nurse in charge of shooting you up with sedatives, but she gets to decide whether to store the bedpans in the refrigerator.
megados 3rd May 2017, 7:08 AM edit delete reply

I had to chuckle at "bedpans in the refrigerator"!
Dragonrider 3rd May 2017, 11:45 AM edit delete reply

Isn't that where they're normally kept?
chk 3rd May 2017, 7:19 AM edit delete reply

Now that's funny.
Centcomm 3rd May 2017, 12:18 PM edit delete reply

AT least they are plastic now..
Haegan2005 3rd May 2017, 5:01 PM edit delete reply

still cold as heck though.

Especially since the hospital is cold t begin with.
Thomas 3rd May 2017, 8:04 AM edit delete reply
Why doesn't Acantha seem to have a pillow? Invalids need as little strain as possible and the effort of holding your head up when you've had open chest surgery seems like a not good thing.
Ictuan 3rd May 2017, 8:32 AM edit delete reply
Panel three shows a pillow as do panels from previous days.
Centcomm 3rd May 2017, 12:17 PM edit delete reply

She has one.. and soon will have more.
Timotheus 4th May 2017, 1:51 AM edit delete reply

Ah yes, the obligatory heart shaped pillow. Perhaps she'll get one with the heart beat generator in it. (When you squeeze it you can hear a heart beat.)
Johninaustin 3rd May 2017, 8:50 AM edit delete reply
The "Nanny' comment had me laughing out loud. For some reason I had a mental pic of Mary Poppins with a flame thrower pop into my head.
Gilrandir 3rd May 2017, 10:57 AM edit delete reply
Little bits and pieces of this and that have inspired in me yet another question completely unrelated to anything. (Kudos, story team! ^_^)

Who is Cassian S/N 001 -- i.e., the first prototype Cassian -- and is she still in service?
Centcomm 3rd May 2017, 12:17 PM edit delete reply

megados 3rd May 2017, 12:51 PM edit delete reply

Good question, @Gilrandir! ;)
Sheela 3rd May 2017, 1:15 PM edit delete reply

Spoilers go on cars ! :D
guest1 4th May 2017, 8:30 AM edit delete reply
actually .. they go on aircraft.. on most street cars they are useless.. at normal street speeds they are a waste of gas..
the real effect on cars is,, at speed is to push the rear end down in turns,, so you can take turns at higher speed an not drift in the turn
antrik 4th May 2017, 2:47 PM edit delete reply
@guest1 race cars are cars too :-)

More importantly though, it's not entirely true that spoilers are useless on street cars. Street cars sometimes actually have some small unobtrusive spoilers -- unless the general silhouette already generates enough down-force. It is necessary to keep stability at higher speeds. Take the Audi TT for an example: they had to add an ugly spoiler after the fact, since the original design turned out not to be viable.

Also, spoilers are not only for the rear end. Race cars have large spoilers on the front too; and some faster street cars also tend to have some minor front spoiler elements.

You are right of course that spoilers are always a trade-off, because of the air drag they create. Some race cars have dynamically adjustable spoilers for this reason; and some street car concepts are experimenting with dynamic elements too...
guest1 4th May 2017, 4:31 PM edit delete reply
ok... my comment was about speed... IF you buy the Audi TT and never take it above 100mph/161kph (( street car )).. then you just wasted your money.!
and front spoilers, are usually called air dams.. and its part of the ground effects kit. ALL of which keeps the car on the road AT SPEED.!
guest1 4th May 2017, 4:58 PM edit delete reply
also tt 23mpg city,, 30mpg highway, @60mph... but if you remove the spoiler an ground effects kit, the mpg jumps by almost 5mpg,, 28mpg city, an 33mpg highway if you keep it at 70 mph...
Sheela 4th May 2017, 4:54 PM edit delete reply

No, spoilers do not go on aircraft, those are wings, they create lift not downforce - Same principle, very different application.

If they are done right, spoilers on cars do have stabilizing effects at high speed, even those tiny little lip spoilers.
On a lightweight (race)car, you see aerodynamic advantages all the way down to 30 mph.
All the Pickles 4th May 2017, 8:41 PM edit delete reply

Actually, spoilers do go on aircraft.
guest1 4th May 2017, 10:02 PM edit delete reply
they did not start using " spoilers " until 1967 on cars .. and same principal , SAME concept/application ... also they do use wings in cars,, more like the formula 1's .. at the time 90% of "spoilers" on street cars were just for show, an had no real effect, except to waste gas....
oh if your car is front wheel drive, DON'T get a spoiler, it actually ruins your handling ...
Sheela 4th May 2017, 11:33 PM edit delete reply

Allright, ok, Spoilers *do* go on aircraft, my bad.

And aerodynamics on consumer cars kinda started in the 1930s, spoilers did indeed not reach production cars until the early 60s on cars such as the classic Ferrari 250 GTO. Small lip spoilers can improve drag resistance on FWD cars, but do indeed not help handling much, apart from keeping the rear end down under breaking at high speed, which is fairly negligeble.
antrik 6th May 2017, 8:18 PM edit delete reply
Heh, I guess it shows I'm living in a bubble, when I find the idea of a front wheel drive quaint... ;-)

Context: I have been reading about electric cars *a lot* lately -- and on a pure electric car properly designed as such from the ground up, front wheel drive simply makes no sense.
All the Pickles 6th May 2017, 8:40 PM edit delete reply

On cars with conventional drivetrains, front wheel drive makes a lot more sense. It allows the passenger compartment to be lower because the drivetrain doesn't have to go under it, and numerous other benefits when designing the vehicle. That said, I can't stand the way they feel when driving.
antrik 7th May 2017, 1:37 PM edit delete reply
I thought the major trade-off is weight?...
All the Pickles 7th May 2017, 6:37 PM edit delete reply

Weight is a big one. Keeping the drivetrain compact makes it lighter as well as allowing the whole car to be more compact, an therefore lighter. Keeping the passenger compartment lower also allows a lower center of gravity for better handling.
antrik 7th May 2017, 11:17 PM edit delete reply
I see.

Another fun fact about electric cars: putting the drive battery *under* the passenger compartment -- as most properly designed electric cars do -- makes for a wonderfully low centre of gravity :-)
Morituri 4th May 2017, 1:48 PM edit delete reply
For what it's worth, serial numbers starting with 1 go on the first *production* models.

The prototypes, of which there may be several before the design schemas are finalized for production, rarely bear actual serial numbers, but the *final* prototype, with everything manufactured on the same kind of machinery to the same designs, before going to mass production, is considered S/N zero.
megados 4th May 2017, 2:26 PM edit delete reply

Usually S/N - 000 never makes it out into the wild. It's most often kept as a benchmark sample. S/N - 001 would be the first production model, and usually the first one the world sees. Theoretically, 000 might be in a lab or storeroom somewhere collecting dust. Of course, things may work quite differently in the DC Universe however ;)
antrik 4th May 2017, 2:29 PM edit delete reply
If you are referring to the car industry, it's in fact a bit more complicated than that. The exemplars produced on the mass production machinery are called "release candidates"; and there are usually many more than one of those... For more "exclusive" car models on the other hand, which only get small production runs, the process tends to be more fluid -- and some of the later pre-production models can actually end up being sold to customers.

In the "exclusive" case, serial numbers will likely start way before the main production run. Not sure how it is handled in the mass production case -- but I doubt there is actually a bunch of release candidates all having serial number zero?...
megados 4th May 2017, 2:52 PM edit delete reply

I thought that the response was to the OP question about the Cassian industry. ;)

In any event, there is a lot of preproduction work.
Morituri 4th May 2017, 4:11 PM edit delete reply
I happen to be the proud owner of a sewing machine bearing the name "Graeling Mechanical Co." and serial number zero.

It's a curiosity. Graeling Mechanical apparently failed as a business sometime during WWII and their sewing machine was never produced for sale. So the prototype became one more odd bit of historical detritus. It weighs about 150 pounds and has a half-horsepower electric motor and a transmission that can be set to six different speeds.
antrik 4th May 2017, 4:22 PM edit delete reply
Now you just want to make us all envious ;-)
megados 4th May 2017, 4:43 PM edit delete reply

Wow, you have an unusual, and awesome piece of memorabilia there! Does it run?
Sheela 4th May 2017, 4:57 PM edit delete reply

No, it walks ! >_<
antrik 4th May 2017, 7:59 PM edit delete reply
With a 373 Watt motor, it better be running, and pretty fast at that ;-)

(I have no idea why a sewing machine needed such a powerful motor...)
Sheela 4th May 2017, 8:10 PM edit delete reply

Depends on what materials it has to sew.
Leather springs to mind as something that would be hard to penetrate.
Morituri 5th May 2017, 12:06 PM edit delete reply
Half-horsepower motors are more than consumer machines get, but not out of line for commercial sewing machines. I could direct you to modern examples made by companies like Juki etc.

Graeling's machine might have been intended for the garment industry, but probably for awnings, upholstery, sails, coats, sleeping bags, tents, etc.

Its six-speed transmission is not as convenient as modern variable-speed machines, but that's common for commercial machines too. It runs perfectly. Its top speed is 2400 stitches per second, which is actually pretty frightening to get your hands close to.

What all of this has to do with Cassians is approximately nothing, however....
megados 5th May 2017, 1:06 PM edit delete reply

One minor nitpck, @Morituri, I think you mean stitches per minute. 2400 stitches per second is a lot to ask .. . ;)
Morituri 5th May 2017, 1:23 PM edit delete reply
Eh. Right. Per minute, not per second.

It's still a case of "Goes to Eleven!" as far as I'm concerned.
megados 5th May 2017, 3:29 PM edit delete reply

Oh, it's impressive all right! Controlling thread, and timing at what is still 40 stitches per second is still respectable. I don't want my fingers in there!
Gilrandir 4th May 2017, 6:03 PM edit delete reply
@Morituri, the discussion about S/N 001 versus S/N 000 has provoked some interesting opinions, anecdotes, facts, and other responses which went in a very different direction than I was expecting. I have no intention of disputing your assertion one way or the other, owing to my complete lack of relevant information or qualifications to do so. I suspect that, though there are some generally practiced principles, there is also variation from vendor to vendor and product to product in the specific implementations over the many years.

However, I would like to add this bit, in my own defense. It has been my conjecture for some time (with no canon basis, whatsoever) that the Cassians are not of Nova Roma manufacture, but were instead contracted for from a more technologically advanced source. I further make the unjustified assumption that the contracting authority had in mind some overall plan for ensuring the security and stability of Nova Roma and its power structure when they drew up the design specifications for their androids, rather than simply expecting the androids to magically make things better all by themselves in a metaphoric 'vacuum'. Thus, even if they were production models from the perspective of the delivering vendor, the early Cassians were probably considered 'prototypes' by the Nova Roma customer authorities, until such time as they had proved themselves in the field under real-world circumstances. (Follow-on orders for additional Cassians being contingent on successful deployment of the initial units.) It was from that perspective that I used the word 'prototype', rather than a proof-of-concept model never intended to get off the factory floor. (So to speak. ^_^)
Lee 3rd May 2017, 11:31 AM edit delete reply
Those custom textures you made for 3C poster and medical GUIs look really good and add a lot to the scene.

And I love the bump/displacement maps that give Noctis' "skin" an almost plated look. It's such a subtle detail, and it's beautiful.
Centcomm 3rd May 2017, 12:17 PM edit delete reply

Thank you! yeah its little things that seem to connect the scene to the charcters i think :D
chk 4th May 2017, 3:00 PM edit delete reply

The girl does pretty work.
DLKmusic 3rd May 2017, 9:11 PM edit delete reply

I haven't really posted much these past few pages, but I do want to say how much in awe I am here. The two of you are taking a near tragic real-life experience and transmorphing that experience into the story. It's truly mesmerizing, and I don't really have words to do it justice
Centcomm 4th May 2017, 7:57 PM edit delete reply

Thank you DLK your comments are always appreceated.
HeSerpenty 3rd May 2017, 10:33 PM edit delete reply

Hahahah Noctis.. "Obviously"

DUH Acantha! Aw it's so nice to hear her all spunky and defiant again <3
Centcomm 4th May 2017, 7:57 PM edit delete reply

Yep she will get there .. :D
guest1 4th May 2017, 8:18 AM edit delete reply
Mat the Fourth be with you.!
antrik 4th May 2017, 2:50 PM edit delete reply
Come on Lynn, be honest: the *true* answer to the question why she is here is, "Because I wanted you here!" :-)
chk 4th May 2017, 2:52 PM edit delete reply

So I guess it's time for a little 'Meanwhile, in Nova Roma.'
Centcomm 5th May 2017, 6:43 AM edit delete reply

Not yet .. :D
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