Comic 1486 - Too Far

7th May 2017, 9:00 PM
Too Far
Average Rating: 5 (24 votes)
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SeanR 7th May 2017, 9:01 PM edit delete reply
Hundreds of years in the future...
and the internet is still used for watching cat videos.
DLKmusic 7th May 2017, 9:05 PM edit delete reply

Cat videos rule, SeanR... Even Sheela posts them! and re-posts them... and watches them...

She say's she's studying the enemy for weaknesses, but... well, we know the truth!
Haegan2005 7th May 2017, 10:18 PM edit delete reply

The cats are safe until she goes for the A-1 sauce?
antrik 7th May 2017, 10:19 PM edit delete reply
@SeanR what else would people ever want to use the internet for?... ;-)

(Well, aside from the obvious thing, i.e. porn.)

Damn -- now I want to see a cami-cat vid.
Sheela 8th May 2017, 5:50 AM edit delete reply

ooOhh, A-1 sauce, I hadn't thought of that !! :D

*yoink*
*steals Haegan's sauce*
Haegan2005 8th May 2017, 5:33 PM edit delete reply

lol
Ebonbolt 9th May 2017, 11:17 PM edit delete reply

@antrik, don't forget that most important use of the internet: webcomics.

@Sheela: You might look into something called "Country Bob's" (although it might be just a local phenomenon). I'm told it doesn't go well with cat, though.
antrik 10th May 2017, 1:34 AM edit delete reply
Webcomics? Does anyone actually read these?... ;-)
MikeyLikesIt 8th May 2017, 11:14 AM edit delete reply
The difference is that in the future, the cats are cyber-enhanced and have the laser pointer attached to their heads. Then they give the control of advanced remote-drones that throw or dangle things, and hilarity ensues!
Wolfsbane 9th May 2017, 1:45 PM edit delete reply

Do they have frikken' laser beams attached to their heads? Hmm?
Sheela 9th May 2017, 6:15 PM edit delete reply

Yes, so they can play with themselves.
SeanR 7th May 2017, 9:13 PM edit delete reply
Was Lynn's outfit designed for a different model?
It doesn't lay near as well as Calliope's.
HiFranc 8th May 2017, 12:42 AM edit delete reply

It seems to me that it's just that it's rumpled.
DLKmusic 7th May 2017, 9:15 PM edit delete reply

"Scythe Lizards Frolicking"?????

Damn, I got this wierd mental image of a scythe lizard rolling around on his back in a field of daisies, and blowing the stems off of the dandilions with this bambi like stare...

I can't get it out of my head... So I'm sticking it in yours as well!!!!
Dragonrider 7th May 2017, 10:07 PM edit delete reply

Thanks for the pain
antrik 7th May 2017, 10:21 PM edit delete reply
@DLKmusic I have trouble visualising this -- but I'm sure it would be hilarious :-)
Sheela 8th May 2017, 5:49 AM edit delete reply

Oh god, now I want to have this image in my head as well !

But all I see is 800 pounds of red beef rolling around in front of me, and I get OH SO HUNGRY !!!! o.O
Centcomm 8th May 2017, 10:49 AM edit delete reply

keep that image. its the one intended..
Quieteyes 9th May 2017, 8:24 PM edit delete reply
BAND NAME!! :-)
megados 7th May 2017, 9:16 PM edit delete reply

Lynn is just not listening. Both Calliope and Acantha think she should go get checked out. Lynn seems to be having some kind of anxiety about leaving Acantha. It seems a little more that just stubbornness. She really wants to pay Acantha back for being there for her in New Rome.

Minor nit pick: Lynn's jeans in the last panel form a 'cage' over her left knee. Too much starch?
antrik 7th May 2017, 10:10 PM edit delete reply
That "cage" effect has been visible in previous panels already.

I am actually more fascinated by the nano-tech pants automatically shifting shape to avoid exposing butt cleavage -- I wish people had these today ;-)
Thormation 7th May 2017, 10:15 PM edit delete reply

Or. it could possibly be that Lynn has heard enough bits and pieces about CentCom's black angels, plans to nuke Aeneus, and attempts to use Lynn's safety as a pretext to overthrow Nova Roma, that maybe she feels her continuing presence is the only thing keeping CentCom from taking some action that would result in Acantha's "accidental" demise.
antrik 7th May 2017, 10:24 PM edit delete reply
She would have to be rather paranoid for that... We know that Cent-Comm has no interest in actually overthrowing Roma, or harming Acantha -- and I would expect Lynn to understand that too.

(Otherwise, why would she ever propose taking Acantha to Troy in the first place?...)
Tokyo Rose 8th May 2017, 5:34 AM edit delete reply

@megados

The pants model have no holes in the knees--there's a transparency map in play, making the "frayed" areas see-through to show the leg underneath. There are very few, if any, ways to make it act more like real cloth that won't bottleneck render production like all hell.
megados 8th May 2017, 6:54 AM edit delete reply

Oh! I think I understand something that I didn't before. The clothing/outfits has to have a 'space' between it and the model to avoid clipping, right? Then I saw your response below to Mark_L_A, and it makes sense. That also clears up a number of other things for me as well! (Bear in mind that I have zero knowledge or experience in 3D modeling) Thanks, @Tokyo Rose; I think you made me a little less dumb. :D
Centcomm 8th May 2017, 10:49 AM edit delete reply

I was hoping they would look better.. But ah well. Live and learn, sure too much starch...
megados 8th May 2017, 11:49 AM edit delete reply

Well I want to point out that it's MINOR, and finding out that this is a modification, I wouldn't worry about it. I didn't know you could modify it to change part of it to a clear 'window'. The frayed thread looks very real! Actually it came out pretty good, when you consider it wasn't meant to be used that way, and it gave me a chance to learn something. :D

*edit: Besides, if we didn't look at the details, we wouldn't be able to realize how much effort goes into making this!
Timotheus 7th May 2017, 9:24 PM edit delete reply

"Mom, this is my combat buddy. We've shared the trenches together. I can't just leave her here alone on her own. I love you, but she's been through hell with me. I can't leave her now that she needs me, even if she says so."
We're talking Ada/Teedee type bonding here.
Meska 7th May 2017, 9:38 PM edit delete reply
Oh she wants to stay, stay in the nice limbo of NOT dealing with her own issues a while yet at the same time making sure her best friend is not being bullied by anyone.

That and she may not want to admit half the things that went down DID go down, nor let anyone find out one of her ovaries is still in New Rome doing who knows what all on it's lonesome... Perhaps it has taken over?
megados 7th May 2017, 9:44 PM edit delete reply

Actually, in the reboot, canon regarding Lynn's ovary/eggs is revised. I recommend looking through the new pages! The new art, and revision makes it well worth it!
antrik 7th May 2017, 10:13 PM edit delete reply
Right -- and we have always been at war with Eastasia... ;-)

Memento ova!
DLKmusic 7th May 2017, 10:37 PM edit delete reply

but... we HAVE always been at war against Eastasia... AND... chocolate rations have been increased to 25 grams a month! Double Jollygood news!
cattservant 7th May 2017, 9:50 PM edit delete reply

Frolicking...?
Centcomm 7th May 2017, 10:14 PM edit delete reply

Frolicking :D
Haegan2005 7th May 2017, 10:20 PM edit delete reply

IT BURNS!
HiFranc 8th May 2017, 1:02 AM edit delete reply

Anything can frolic as long as you're not there.
Greenwood Goat 8th May 2017, 2:09 AM edit delete reply
Yes... here, for instance, are Alex and his droogs frolicking with another gang in the film A Clockwork Orange, set to an excerpt from Rossini's La Gazza Ladra. >:=)>
Sheela 8th May 2017, 11:45 AM edit delete reply

I totally want to see Murderturds frolic. :)
chk 9th May 2017, 8:29 AM edit delete reply

Murderturds frolicking would be easy to illustrate Sheela.

It would pretty much be a red screen.
Haegan2005 7th May 2017, 10:26 PM edit delete reply

As a side note, I respect Acantha even more now. I think this fighting between Lynn and her mother is actually causing Acantha pain. The princess misses her parents dearly and would give anything to have them back.

And I agree with a post from far above. Lynn may not be ready to deal with what happened and is using Acantha as an excuse to avoid talking about it. There may be elements of PTSD and a form of survivors guilt here. Lots of issues being touched upon in this page.

Well done Rose and Cent! Well done!
TheSkulker 7th May 2017, 11:43 PM edit delete reply

Even if Lynn did have some elements of PTSD or survivor guilt (NOT a given), now is not a good time to address them via a "professional". Lynn has just gotten back from an extended life threatening environment and needs some time relax and just feel safe again. Being there for Acantha to feel comfortable and safe would be as therapeutic for Lynn as for Acantha, probably even more so. To be able to chill out and binge on cat videos just shouts safety and would be a much needed welcome relief. The stark contrast from dodging bullets, explosions and the dick-ass would not be lost on the two of them. And there would also be a huge synergy from the shared experience. Especially considering their previous shared experience. It would be far, far more beneficial than any "professional" could offer.

Contrariwise, to force Lynn to leave Acantha would be a major source of stress for Lynn and only aggravate any issues she might have. Calliope has no real idea of what Lynn has just gone through or what they have shared and is not seeing the situation from Lynn's perspective. Any issues that Lynn may have are not going to worsen or be set in concrete over the next few days. Adding stress to Lynn by tearing her away would just be insult to injury.
Gilrandir 8th May 2017, 12:44 AM edit delete reply
Without going into too much detail, @TheSkulker, because I am no kind of professional therapist, counselor, or mental health professional, I do not agree. I think Calliope is taking the right tack. (And, to be honest, the negative emotions alluded to by the author commentary are not really coming through for me.)

From my perspective Lynn is reverting to all the very worst behavioral traits she exhibited on pages 1-kidnap that rendered her so unsympathetic. I have theories (wrong, of course) about why that might be, and I think it understandable, but that doesn't mean the proper response is even more indulgence at this point. Other people will, of course, have other opinions.

I do agree with you that she needs a safe, relaxing environment. I don't agree with you that Acantha's room is the best place to find it -- either for Acantha, or for her.
TheSkulker 9th May 2017, 2:57 AM edit delete reply

@Gilrandir, I am not a licensed therapist either but I have had some years of counselor training and the situation just screams "Let me decompress with my fellow survivor! We have just been through hell together and she is the only one who can truly relate. We understand each other!" To be understood is a basic human need and no amount of talking to a "professional" (even a good one), can grok that experience more than the experience itself. While a hospital room may not be the ideal environment, it is non threatening and secure. The best "medicine" and the fastest "healing" (at this time), will come from the shared immersion into "safe, silly time". As HiFranc and Timotheus have corroborated below, psychic shock is not alleviated by more shock or stress. The unconscious mind has to relax, defuse and feel safe before trauma can dissipate and healing can take place. The symbolism of safety from watching soap operas is specifically directed toward, and will not be lost on, the unconscious minds of both Lynn and Acantha. In particular, it is the unconscious minds which need to be healed.

BTW, If I sound like I don't have much faith in "professional therapists", I don't. I have had too much experience with them to have much left. They are not gods or magicians.

BTW2, My comments are strictly regarding Lynn and her mental landscape. Acantha's reaction is quite real (and extremely well depicted), but is separate from Lynn's. She would be out of character if she didn't say she was OK with Lynn leaving but I am sure she would feel much better if Lynn stayed.
Gilrandir 9th May 2017, 8:08 AM edit delete reply
My reading of the individuals in question summarizes briefly like this:

Noctis - She's fine. She's done this sort of thing before, and things are looking comparatively benign. Not that the situation warrants carelessness or laziness, but it is unlikely to go high-order unless someone commits some brand-new and uncharacteristic act of stupidity.

Calliope - She's stressed. She wants Lynn to herself to address familial bonds she feels have been strained and about which she feels guilty. Having (in her mind) contributed to things going wrong through 'parental neglect', she's now seeking to (over)correct by making sure she does whatever she can to put things 'back the way they were'. She may have some generalized resentment toward Nova Roma, the political entity, but bears Acantha no ill will - she just has no special bond with her either and sees her as an unwelcome distraction to Lynn regarding the process of getting Lynn 'back where she should be'.

Acantha - She's bewildered (and recently becoming stressed, thanks to Lynn). She's having to deal with a lot of new information quickly and recognizes that she is the focal point of major issues in motion around her for which she has no actual responsibility and over which she has very little control. On the other hand, that isn't particularly new for her, given her upbringing, so she is coping well. She is very uncomfortable being the 'cause' (excuse?) for the dispute between Lynn and Calliope and because she knows nothing about the actual relationship between Lynn and her mom, is imagining some horrifying 'worst case' scenarios playing out in her hospital room. Considering her own recent past experiences with familial relationships involve Decimus and his own brand of 'affection', you can imagine just how bad those are. Also, I expect she sees the cracks in Lynn's facade showing (more on that, next) and would be happy to help (as well as being the closest thing to a trained therapist in the room, remember? ^_^) but isn't really comfortable just jumping into the middle of an existing situation cold. (By the way, I add my voice to the many who observe that, in my opinion, Acantha's emotions are very clearly communicated by her expressions and body language. Well done, @Centcomm.)

Lynn - She's being self-centered and inconsiderate as part of her strategy to 'cope by avoiding'. She is genuinely fond of Acantha and wants everything to go well for her. However, at this point by focusing on Acantha and 'hovering' she is also using it as a distraction to keep herself from thinking about what she's been through. In my imagination, she probably spent the entire six-hour trip from Nova Roma talking TeeDee's ear off about anything and everything, just to provide an outlet for her nervous energy while avoiding the after-action crash and associated (in this case, unjustified) guilt about having caused everything by all the things real and imagined she did wrong, including disregarding Dolly's offer and trying to act as an 'adult'. Although superficially it seems her actions are centered on Acantha (being there for her, getting her things, reassuring her, etc.), she isn't actually prioritizing Acantha's needs, but her own. How do we know? Because she hasn't asked Acantha! I expect Acantha will have questions for her doctors (who should be arriving shortly) and will then want to sleep again. (Although Acantha is gamely trying to be there for her friend and help Lynn feel her efforts are appreciated.) Lynn isn't asking anyone anything, she's just doing what she imagines will make her (and everyone else) feel better, because (naturally) everyone else feels better when she feels better. (Not an uncommon attitude in children of privilege.) Eventually the distractions will fail and Lynn will crash. I agree with Calliope that it will be good for Lynn to have met someone she can confide in before that happens, and for Lynn to have that comm code in her pocket for when she is ready to talk about things, later. What Calliope (in my opinion) is overlooking here is that that person is actually probably going to be Dolly, and not any professional therapist. ^_^ Note that I believe Lynn has genuine affection for Acantha and will be important to help keep Acantha from feeling isolated and alone as events unfold, but that (probably subconsciously) isn't her true focus right now. Lynn has some issues, whether she admits that to herself or not, and she's going to need to address them before she can be the best friend to Acantha she is capable of being.

Pretty long for a "brief summary", so I'll stop here. ^_^ The above is, of course, crude, naive, overly simplified, and overlooks the many subtle nuances present in humans who are (after all) fairly complicated beasts. But, hopefully, it is not completely misguided.
megados 9th May 2017, 9:51 AM edit delete reply

If that isn't spot on, @Gilrandir, I think it's close, including the possibility that Dolly would be the best one for Lynn to talk to. She probably knows Lynn better than anyone else does, and can 'read' her, despite what she may say. Then, as you say, she can be a better friend to Acantha.
HiFranc 8th May 2017, 12:48 AM edit delete reply

Also, research shows that providing psychological support immediately after an incident actually inhibits a person's ability to heal. It's far better to wait a few weeks and provide support to those who need it.
Timotheus 8th May 2017, 1:20 AM edit delete reply

As I was trying to say above, Lynn and Acantha are in the same position as combat troops just off the line. De-stressing together as a team, just like they experienced their stressing events, is the best methodology if at all possible.
Tokyo Rose 8th May 2017, 5:36 AM edit delete reply

@Haegan2005

When I got the pages from Cent, I was genuinely impressed by Acantha's expression and body language. It beautifully conveys "I don't like people arguing around me" and "I don't like being the CAUSE of a family argument", to my eye.
Centcomm 8th May 2017, 10:51 AM edit delete reply

actually .. that is exactly what i wanted to convey so yay me!
megados 8th May 2017, 7:13 AM edit delete reply

That's what I saw too, Haegan2005. Acantha looks like she is almost ready to cry: "I don't want to be the cause of this! Please don't let me be the cause of this!". She might have been at the center of many an argument before. :(
Sheela 8th May 2017, 11:48 AM edit delete reply

To be fair, if Calliope brings Lynn to a professional, the professional would know all about de-stressing, so we might see Lynn back with Acantha soon.

Also, this may be more for Calliope's peace of mind, than Lynn's health.
guest1 8th May 2017, 12:59 PM edit delete reply
?umm ?? why cant the "professional" be brought here?... sit back watch the interactions,, AND then make the decision if any body needs to see them one on one..!!?
it's not like they have done that before.. Dr, Silver kicking and whining the whole way.. " well except the bar fight,, soo worth it.!!"
Tokyo Rose 8th May 2017, 3:48 PM edit delete reply

@guest1

A regular hospital would have counselors on staff who can visit patients that need psychological support; this, however, is 3C, not a regular hospital. Security is VERY tight and clearance is restricted.

And Calliope is glad to take advantage of that fact, because she wants to get Lynn AWAY from Acantha.
Kitty 8th May 2017, 2:49 PM edit delete reply
Y'know, Calli's been under a great deal of stress throughout this story, too, and it's been shown that she doesn't always deal well with stress. I can totally understand her need to have her daughter in a safe space and make sure her needs are met. As much as Lynn and Calli love each other, there's stubbornness on both sides. I can't blame Calli for wanting to have her daughter to herself for a bit, as well as wanting to make sure she's physically and emotionally well.
Kitty 8th May 2017, 2:44 PM edit delete reply
I wondered if anybody else noticed that re: parents. Acantha's face says to me that she really wishes her own mom was there to take care of her.
Sheela 8th May 2017, 4:37 PM edit delete reply

Man, Calliope's going to blow a fuse, when Lynn wants to bring Acantha back to Helios Tower. XD
Gilrandir 9th May 2017, 9:24 PM edit delete reply
Calliope probably wouldn't feel strongly about Acantha. ... Noctis, on the other hand is likely to be a deal breaker. ^_^
megados 9th May 2017, 9:49 PM edit delete reply

It would be hard to get Noctis to leave Acantha, unless Acantha orders it.
Gilrandir 9th May 2017, 10:04 PM edit delete reply
Even if Acantha ordered it she might refuse (pre-Senate confirmation). But we are talking about Calliope's feelings here, not predicting what will eventually happen. It looks like the mother-daughter drama is going to fall out in full measure over Acantha, no matter how hard Acantha tries to prevent it.
plymayer 7th May 2017, 10:44 PM edit delete reply

Lasers were once a huge scientific breakthrough; Now we use them to play with cats.

Computer were once a huge scientific breakthrough; Now we use them to look at cats.

Conclusion: Science was made for cats.
antrik 7th May 2017, 10:47 PM edit delete reply
Can't argue with such a scientific conclusion ;-)
TheSkulker 7th May 2017, 11:57 PM edit delete reply

Purrfect logic!
Sheela 8th May 2017, 11:52 AM edit delete reply

Cats refer to Televisions as "Human Immobilization Devices", and sometimes they refer to the Immobilized Humans as "Heat Cushions".

:D
antrik 7th May 2017, 10:51 PM edit delete reply
So, Lynn did *not* do the smart thing, and leave the room before starting the argument... [sigh] Why am I not surprised?

Now I wonder whether Acantha really means it that she is fine with Lynn leaving -- or she just tries anything to defuse this uncomfortable situation, even at her own expense...
antrik 7th May 2017, 10:58 PM edit delete reply
Calliope's though bubble is cute :-)

Though the fact this still seems to surprise her after 18 years, is testament to how much of the actual parenting she left to Dolly...
velvetsanity 7th May 2017, 11:29 PM edit delete reply

Who was probably twice as stubborn as Calliope and Fallon combined...
HiFranc 8th May 2017, 12:55 AM edit delete reply

I suspect that guilt about that* is a major part of Calliope's current attitude.

* Not being a parent and not getting the psychological support when it was available to be a parent.
megados 8th May 2017, 7:06 AM edit delete reply

@HiFranc, I do think she has a lot of guilt built up, the most recent addition being letting Lynn go by herself, resulting in her kidnapping.
mjkj 7th May 2017, 11:33 PM edit delete reply

*lol* you rock, Acantha =)

Yeah, but seriously, Lynn, your mom is just worried about you...

*lol* @alt text... =D

Sheela 8th May 2017, 12:00 PM edit delete reply

I never use a persons full name unless it's something vitally important.
If I put on my serious face, a serious tone and call out the full name of some of my friends or family, I can make them stand at attention (literally) in a matter of seconds. I will NOT be denied, anyone who acts up while being called by their full name, is in SERIOUS trouble.
It even works on Marines and generals .. I've tried! They told me I had a commanding presence ... which is Officer speak for "damn you got me!". :D
antrik 8th May 2017, 8:05 PM edit delete reply
I'm not sure I can ever reconcile this confession with the persona you present here ;-)
megados 8th May 2017, 8:34 PM edit delete reply

This is what Sheela does after following them home. . . >_>
Rashala 8th May 2017, 12:29 AM edit delete reply

Wonder if she could find a video of one of her rescuers up a tree from a murder turd while their partner can be heard laughing to death
Sheela 8th May 2017, 11:56 AM edit delete reply

Oh, it's probably one of TeeDee's most popular videos. :D
antrik 8th May 2017, 10:21 PM edit delete reply
Yeah, since all of her others are just herself shooting things up -- which gets old quick ;-)
Mark_L_A 8th May 2017, 4:41 AM edit delete reply

For the way Lynn's clothes are looking weird, I've been playing with DAZ myself and it seems like any item clothes, or anything else like a prop, doesn't 'quite' touch the base model. that is why it looks like her pants aren't touching her knee and why her shirt hangs away from the body a bit.

But still, Cent has done excellent work with the posing and camera angles, that it actually is blocked out like it would be for a professional production for TV or a Movie.
Tokyo Rose 8th May 2017, 5:39 AM edit delete reply

Clothing props are generally designed to fit as closely to the body of a figure as possible without clipping. "Dynamic" clothing reacts more like real cloth, using collision detection to move with and respond to the figure's posing, but it is absolute HELL on production times, and there are very few "dynamic" outfits available for that reason, among others.
guest1 8th May 2017, 9:02 AM edit delete reply
as a noob to DAZ ,, clothing time ,, it took me 45 min to put a bra on.! and that was a standard pose!!
sooo! my hats off to you both.!! even with all the time and practice,, it must be a nightmare...
Sheela 8th May 2017, 12:06 PM edit delete reply

Another reason is when clothes don't render shadows upon the skin.
Then you get "glowing skin" effect, much like "glowing mouth".
megados 8th May 2017, 8:32 PM edit delete reply

It would appear that almost everyone on the planet knows more about 3D rendering than I do.
antrik 8th May 2017, 10:27 PM edit delete reply
I'm pretty sure way less than 0.1% of the world's population do :-)
Sheela 8th May 2017, 11:12 PM edit delete reply

People who have dabbled with 3D, are way more likely to read 3D comics than others who haven't.
antrik 9th May 2017, 1:05 AM edit delete reply
You think so? I have no doubt those who tried it themselves better appreciate the shitload of work that goes into it -- but I'm not sure it makes them substantially more (or less) likely to read it...
chk 9th May 2017, 8:43 AM edit delete reply

I don't know how she does it, but I do know Centcomm is among the very best artists I am aware of.
megados 9th May 2017, 9:14 AM edit delete reply

I think it's because she actually, you know, ... tries :)
chk 8th May 2017, 8:40 AM edit delete reply

I'm thinking Cent-Comm might have a problem with a Nova Roman being given a bunch of maps and guides of New Troy (albeit they may be public knowledge tour maps).

Especially since Noctis suggested it.
Centcomm 8th May 2017, 10:52 AM edit delete reply

its all public info .. Lynn does not have access to anything classified.
highlander55 8th May 2017, 2:30 PM edit delete reply

True @Centcomm, but Noctis could get a feeling of what could be weak spots by how it is layed out. (Just stoking the fire)
Gilrandir 8th May 2017, 5:08 PM edit delete reply
Anything that Noctis wanted, that Lynn could get for her, Noctis already had six months ago when they were planning the best way to kidnap Lynn in the first place. I'm sure merchants (spies) go back and forth between New Troy and Nova Roma all the time.
megados 8th May 2017, 6:46 PM edit delete reply

I can't think of a reason for CentComm to object to Noctis having the information. It's not classified, Noctis would have no designs on New Troy, and I don't think Acantha would direct her against New Troy.
antrik 8th May 2017, 8:08 PM edit delete reply
@Gilrandir you mean like Mr. Black? ;-)

Actually I don't think they even need "insiders" for that -- this sort of information should be readily available on the infonet I'd presume...
Gilrandir 9th May 2017, 12:08 AM edit delete reply
Something like, yes. ^_^
guest1 9th May 2017, 8:47 AM edit delete reply
IF,, I was Centcomm: i wood want them to have the Public maps and plan the day trips ,, right there in front of me ,, that way i could hide the weak spot or make the hard/armored spot look weak.. IE: the water plant looks like a simple warehouse,, empty lot is a hardened command post..
and simply know where the VIP is going to plan security along the rout.. it wood not do well for Pinky to have the "VIP" assassinated in a lingerie shop...
Sheela 9th May 2017, 10:15 AM edit delete reply

guest1 is thinking like Centcomm would.
Though possibly a bit more paranoia than needed.

There's no reason to hide the water plants and command posts, as she relies on drone armies and shield technology - It could all be out in the open, and still be just as protected. Heck, she planted the most important building in the middle of the city, made it huge, easy to recognize, and called it 3C ... and then told the entire city about it !
That is where Acantha and Noctis is at right now - Centcomm has already shown off her military command post to .. well, EVERYONE ! XD

She aint afraid.

That said, she would LOVE to know where they want to go, so she could up security a bit.
I'm sure that even the lingerie shops could use a few military combat drones, in her mind. :D
guest1 9th May 2017, 6:17 PM edit delete reply
yes an pinky is military,, " i will tell you where to hit me.",, she will stand toe to toe, then nuke the site from orbit just to be sure.!! but typical military thinking, is to worry bout sabotage(cruel, evil, sneaky, underhanded people.!! )soooo.. miss direction Stan,, misdirection.. if you want bad guys looking your stuff,, hide it in plain site.!!
Romfire 8th May 2017, 12:01 PM edit delete reply
I was just wondering about the spike Cent had sent in. If all "She" knew was that the A.I. computer was very damaged and Aeneas basically brain dead. She might have designed the spike to run in fragments in order to get each separate part of the damaged system running as much as possible. That would hopefully restore the repair subsystems and eventually get the A.I. up and running. Now though she would be in charge of New Rome. So while she may have been wanting to overwrite Aeneas, she would have thought of it more like putting him out of his misery and not killing a functional A.I. I would think the black angel would be able to do some physical repairs before self destructing. The black angel probably didn't have a subroutine that allowed for finding a bunch of "People" fixing him up and restoring him to normal operations.
This could work as a plausible deniability excuse.
antrik 8th May 2017, 8:19 PM edit delete reply
Note that Rosie's team didn't actually do any physical repairs... AIUI, they just connected to the existing but severed repair core, and fed it commands to do the job. The black angel probably could have done the same, in theory. The real problem is that Cent-Comm lacked the necessary intel about Aeneas's state to devise an appropriate repair procedure.

What you describe isn't an excuse -- it's what she was actually attempting to do I think. (And I don't see how deniability comes in here at all?...)
All the Pickles 8th May 2017, 9:22 PM edit delete reply

@antrik: The way I understood it, the nanites Rose put in Kyle left his body and made hardware repairs. Though again, CiCi demonstrated similar capabilities, so she might have been able to do the same thing with her regeneration system.
antrik 8th May 2017, 10:13 PM edit delete reply
Oh, right -- I forgot about the nanites... But as you said, Cent-Comm's black angel could probably do the same -- maybe it was even part of her plan? I think the spike would make a lot more sense that way.

BTW, I'm not calling it "Ceci", because I'd prefer to reserve that designation for the real person, rather than the empty husk that was left at this point...
Sheela 8th May 2017, 11:15 PM edit delete reply

There was a whole bunch of repair drones, just standing around, doing nothing !

Kyle put them to the task.
antrik 9th May 2017, 1:07 AM edit delete reply
Yes, of course -- the question is, how did he achieve that? Presumably by using the nanites to restore the connection to Aeneas's repair core...
Tokyo Rose 9th May 2017, 3:33 AM edit delete reply

Part of Kyle's job, using his own knowledge and the nanite payload, was to restore a connection with the "outside world" so that the Treasures and Tokyo Rose could telnet in and go to work. Getting his repair core back up and running so that it could coordinate and direct his repair drones to fix physical damage was the next thing. Kyle, the Treasures, and Tokyo Rose were focusing on restoring the "corrupted" sectors of his hard drive, so to speak. Once he wasn't crazy any more, he was able to assist in his own treatment.
Sheela 9th May 2017, 6:14 AM edit delete reply

Curiously, it was the connections *to* the repair core that was damaged, not so much the repair core itself, once Kyle got access to it, it would be relatively simply to re-establish physical connections.

Making the AIS non-crazy on the other hand .. kinda difficult.
guest1 9th May 2017, 6:24 PM edit delete reply
soo?? basically Kyle was a walking Wifi,, and a spare router just in case...
Nystran 8th May 2017, 12:06 PM edit delete reply
Yay, finally set up a Patreon account. Feels good to support the comics I like.

Enjoy!
Sheela 8th May 2017, 4:38 PM edit delete reply

That's very nice of you. :)
chk 9th May 2017, 8:46 AM edit delete reply

Welcome aboard.
Centcomm 9th May 2017, 10:34 AM edit delete reply

And i wish to personally thank you HUGS! you guys help me out sooo much!
Sheela 9th May 2017, 6:17 PM edit delete reply

Hugs for Nystran. :)
KarToon12 8th May 2017, 8:24 PM edit delete reply

Now I'm imagining Cent-Comm watching cat videos. XD
Sheela 8th May 2017, 11:17 PM edit delete reply

She does.

She also plays with My Little Ponies in the server room.
Several of her dolls congregate, and bring CentComms favorite toys for the session.
Thomas 8th May 2017, 8:25 PM edit delete reply
Murder-turds frolic?
Sheela 8th May 2017, 11:23 PM edit delete reply

Scientists believe that even the most angry female amazon murderturds, will pick out a favorite male and hide them away (the small, and easily subdued males gives them a raging hardon) - And once hidden, their hormones flip-flop !
The female become horny (both metaphorically and literally), and the male becomes .. sort-of-dominant, for about a week.
During which they ... frolic .. a lot, and sometimes they even have sex violently !!


.. though mostly, they're just high as kites. :D
megados 9th May 2017, 9:11 AM edit delete reply

This week on Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom. :D
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