Comic 1500 - Legacy - Page 3

25th Jun 2017, 9:00 PM
Legacy - Page 3
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megados 25th Jun 2017, 9:18 PM edit delete reply

Well, that's a twist, but at least we know where the ship went down! Our pilot appears to be an android. Deer-hunting girl seems to have a lot to worry about!

Don't look at it! Yep that oughta solve it. :D
Fairportfan 25th Jun 2017, 10:00 PM edit delete reply

Andre Norton: "Star Man's Son"
Stormwind13 26th Jun 2017, 1:48 PM edit delete reply

Wow... I hadn't thought about Star Man's Son (also known as Daybreak: 2250 A.D) for ages. You have a point, there are points of similarity there for sure; however, from the feel of the introduction I was thinking of your brother, Fairport. Specifically Heirs of Empire, on Paradal where all advanced technology was viewed as the work of the devil.
Timotheus 26th Jun 2017, 10:18 PM edit delete reply

I've still got my 1960s (rather fragile) paperback) of that. It was one of my first Andre Nortons. (Most of the rest of the were lost in the storage unit fire of 2010). I'm kinda afraid to try reading it now.
Fairportfan 28th Jun 2017, 1:10 AM edit delete reply

Baen is in the process of re-issuing pretty much all of her stuff.

In her early days she also wrote some historical fiction.
Fairportfan 28th Jun 2017, 1:08 AM edit delete reply

Also a good parallel.

I remember the joy when each new Andre Norton book came out...

BTW: Our dad had first edition signed and numbered copies of all "Doc" Smith's "Skylark" and "Lensman" books - well, he had the even earlier HC of "The Skylark of Space" - and we grew up on them and other SF.

If you're familiar with E.E."Doc" Smith, PhD and his books, think about them when you read the "Dahak" books.
mjkj 25th Jun 2017, 10:30 PM edit delete reply

Oh, it is the crash side...

...and she is an android...

*lol* culture clash ahead =P

HiFranc 25th Jun 2017, 11:05 PM edit delete reply

Question: Will she give aid to a clear sapient and sentient life form or treat it as just metal?
megados 27th Jun 2017, 5:51 AM edit delete reply

That is the big question! (I cannot answer it though) I can only guess that it is central to this storylet, and that people can learn and grow.
Rashala 25th Jun 2017, 11:28 PM edit delete reply

"It". Wow I'm human and even I find that an offensive way to address an ai
Sheela 25th Jun 2017, 11:36 PM edit delete reply

I thought she was thinking about the ship.
megados 26th Jun 2017, 6:51 AM edit delete reply

I figured she was referring to the whole mess.
guest 26th Jun 2017, 7:12 AM edit delete reply
panel 4, she looks right at " it "..
an unless hunter is staring,, " it " is a outsider,, she wont know " it " is a AI.
megados 26th Jun 2017, 7:42 AM edit delete reply

But . . . but also in panel 3, she looks at the ship.
Ictuan 26th Jun 2017, 8:56 AM edit delete reply
I agree with megados, she is talking about the ship when she says "it". She hasn't noticed the AI yet. That will be a mind blowing event for her when realizes AIs exist and she is face to face with one.
Stormwind13 26th Jun 2017, 11:47 AM edit delete reply

I was thinking the huntress first saw the ship and then the outsider. So I was under the impression that 'it' was the humanoid.

From the intro, I got the impression that the soulless were shunned lest they cost one their soul. The ship is inert, relatively easy to ignore. A soulless one though might be able to demand attention (weapon's fire communicates a desire for attention :-D). The huntress seems intent on not drawing attention from the creature not the downed ship.
Ictuan 26th Jun 2017, 1:28 PM edit delete reply
Ya, looking at it again, it does look like the huntress first saw the ship and then saw the AI. She must have figured out the AI was not human thus called the AI "it" instead of "her".
Stormwind13 26th Jun 2017, 1:53 PM edit delete reply

Because of the use of the term soulless in the introduction, I think the huntress has been raised that those from the technological world are demons or the like. So the use of it is appropriate, in her mind. I doubt that the huntress knows enough to realize that it is an artificial lifeform, just that is isn't a member of the pure tribes.
Centcomm 26th Jun 2017, 2:20 PM edit delete reply

Good catch storm! :D
megados 26th Jun 2017, 3:32 PM edit delete reply

Yep, good catch, Stormwind. I failed to connect the dots. >_<
guest 26th Jun 2017, 8:01 PM edit delete reply
points at "stormwind13 " 's post yeah what they said..
what i was trying to type an failed miserably,, all not tribe = it .. an huntress wood not know that was an AI ,, with out looking close...
Timotheus 26th Jun 2017, 12:15 AM edit delete reply

Instructional reality, meet actual reality. Can your preconceptions deal with situations outside their factual limits?
Greenwood Goat 26th Jun 2017, 2:19 AM edit delete reply
- "AAAAAAAAA! 'Tis a metal devil of the old world! She'll kill me! Or feel me up, then kill me! Tell me to cut all the bad things out of my diet! Make me go vegetarian! Make my ears bleed with her swearing! Criticise my décor and tell me to co-ordinate my colours!"

- "I think you have me confused with a whole bunch of other people..."

>:=)>
Mark_L_A 26th Jun 2017, 2:44 AM edit delete reply

I wonder who THAT is? ;)
Sheela 26th Jun 2017, 6:15 AM edit delete reply

It isn't me !!
'cuz I'm a doggy ... see ?
*points paw towards self*
And I'm handsome!
guest 26th Jun 2017, 7:00 AM edit delete reply
kawaii = cute .. you are,
by lexicon : handsome is male.. an cute is female..
DLKmusic 26th Jun 2017, 4:15 PM edit delete reply

the best way to describe Sheela is... "Sheela is... well... Sheela!"
megados 26th Jun 2017, 5:43 PM edit delete reply

Yes, @Sheela, you are a nice doggy! (now can I have my shoe back?)

*bribes with tuna*
Centcomm 26th Jun 2017, 2:20 PM edit delete reply

she .. is new. well old. well you know what i mean!
Sheela 26th Jun 2017, 11:31 PM edit delete reply

*chews happily on tuna can*
megados 27th Jun 2017, 6:35 AM edit delete reply

*puts on wet shoe*
chk 26th Jun 2017, 6:49 AM edit delete reply

Wow! Whiteout, Off World and Data Chasers on the same day. Someone's been busy.

Thanks Diz.
guest 26th Jun 2017, 7:03 AM edit delete reply
Data chasers
Crease
Whiteout
iz how i reads em...
jus sayin
DizzasterJuice 26th Jun 2017, 8:57 AM edit delete reply

Most of these were done before Terri went to Mayo and even though we all knew she was going to get good news, we still thought she deserved a vacation.
chk 26th Jun 2017, 12:40 PM edit delete reply

She does at that.
Ictuan 26th Jun 2017, 1:31 PM edit delete reply
Good plan and greatly appreciated. These side stories are the best "emergency fillers" I've ever seen done for any web comic. Usually emergency fillers consist of non-canon stick figures being silly.
Tokyo Rose 26th Jun 2017, 5:47 PM edit delete reply

Hey! My Crappy Stick Figure Filler strips are 100% canon in the context of real life >(
DLKmusic 26th Jun 2017, 9:55 PM edit delete reply

I like your stick figures, Rose! Especially the red hair...
Timotheus 26th Jun 2017, 10:25 PM edit delete reply

Stick figures can be a perfectly adequate media if coupled with a good story line. My only gripe with them is when people cut and paste the stick figures.
Tokyo Rose 27th Jun 2017, 12:31 AM edit delete reply

@Timotheus

Each stick figure of mine is hand-crafted. Except for the ones I C&Ped because it was hard enough to draw stick-Cent lying down at the oral surgeon's office ONE time, never mind more than once...
megados 27th Jun 2017, 5:45 AM edit delete reply

Forgiven, @Tokyo Rose. That was a tough pose, so it's understandable. :D
Gilrandir 27th Jun 2017, 6:51 AM edit delete reply
Other members of the community may be indecently quick to disregard your casual shortcuts (and shortpastes?) when it has been your turn to shoulder the visual-based artistic duties of the webcomic,@Tokyo Rose -- but not me! Just think of poor Terri, lying in in the oral surgeon's chaise lounge, covered in all that paste! It is not to be tolerated! Someone needs to be willing to defy your impressive might and incendiary, all-consuming wrath and boldly speak out against such lazy compromises and violations of the sacred webcomic code of ethics! And that person is ... @Sheela! ^_^

(I, on the other hand, think everything you have ever done, or considered the possibility of doing, is just wonderful. Please carry on in the most satisfactory and self-indulgent way possible, O Laureate of the Internet! ^_^)
Tokyo Rose 27th Jun 2017, 3:51 PM edit delete reply

@Gilrandir
*snicker* Throwin' Sheela under the bus, are you? Dreadful, just dreadful. :D
chk 27th Jun 2017, 6:13 AM edit delete reply

Of course Rose. Stick figures are cool. Yeah, that's it. Stick figures are cool.
Ictuan 27th Jun 2017, 4:17 PM edit delete reply
I could have sworn that "Crappy Stick Figure Filler" was a registered trademark of the Sluggy Freelance comic. ;-)
megados 26th Jun 2017, 2:34 PM edit delete reply

Even the immortal Centcomm deserves a break now and again! :)

I'm not caught up on Crease, and Whiteout yet. >.<
knuut 26th Jun 2017, 3:27 PM edit delete reply
I was about to say something rude about DataChasers but no Whiteout for months. ... Bidi with an M72? ... All is forgiven!
Sheela 27th Jun 2017, 11:33 PM edit delete reply

It's allright, I was done chewing up that bus anyways!

Now, did someone mention cyberpath ?
Sound tasty to me. :)
Deoxy 26th Jun 2017, 7:03 AM edit delete reply
So, that android has been sitting there for... what, a couple of years or more? That's what the vegetation suggests....
Ictuan 26th Jun 2017, 1:34 PM edit delete reply
I'm not seeing any clear indicators as to how much time has passed since the crash. I'm guessing from the state of the AI's clothing that it was very recent (days at most).
antrik 26th Jun 2017, 2:20 PM edit delete reply
I don't think the clothing is any indication: it looks like it's made of rather solid synthetic material, which would likely neither decompose nor soil in these conditions.

The exposed metal of the arm is curious: from the looks, I tend to think it was not made that way, but rather originally covered in skin etc. It might have been biological skin that decomposed completely, which would indicate a long time -- but then, why is her face unaffected? Another option is burned off synthetic skin I guess; which wouldn't provide for any time scale...

Another mystery is the eyes: by canon, "dead" androids have diluted pupils -- but hers are narrow. (Rather *too* narrow, if anything?) But if she isn't dead, why hasn't she moved at all? Doesn't want to scare the "native"? Or is she immobilised?...
antrik 26th Jun 2017, 2:38 PM edit delete reply
I just noticed that the other hand is still skin-covered, which rules out the "decomposed" option pretty much entirely I guess.
megados 26th Jun 2017, 2:42 PM edit delete reply

As far as her left hand is concerned, I think she's injured. In panel 4, you can see her right hand, and it has it's bioplastic, or biological skin intact, but it looks a little beat up. Her right side and her left hand says she took some damage. * edit: @antrik, you saw it! :D

I don't think she's dead, because from panel 4 to panel 5, she lifts her head.
antrik 26th Jun 2017, 7:27 AM edit delete reply
What is her blade made of, I wonder?
DizzasterJuice 26th Jun 2017, 8:50 AM edit delete reply

"Metals of the old world" is a phrase that describes anything man made other than what they have made for themselves. It is symbolic of the tribe's belief that they are pure and everyone else is not.

So her knife and arrowheads are made of metal but they were made by one from the pure tribes.
antrik 26th Jun 2017, 12:05 PM edit delete reply
I see. Are they actually mining the ores themselves though, rather than using scrap metal?
knuut 26th Jun 2017, 3:40 PM edit delete reply
Might be a bit of both. A few hundred years of lying on (or just under) the ground will turn most low alloy steels into a piles of rust that would easily pass for ore.
antrik 26th Jun 2017, 10:56 PM edit delete reply
@knuut I think I read that low alloy steels actually rust slower than traditional (non-stainless) carbon steels?...

Admittedly, after a couple hundred years, it probably doesn't make much of a difference either way :-)
knuut 27th Jun 2017, 4:00 PM edit delete reply
That would be why I said two hundred instead of seventy five. The lowest carbon steels (essentially pure iron) can last for millennia in a fairly dry climate but are short on strength.
guest 26th Jun 2017, 7:47 PM edit delete reply
jus saying,,, i made a ceramic knife out of a old aircraft radome so it might not be metal...
i have also made arrow heads out of other materials.. glass , plastic , bone , an fiber glassed mono-filament.. all worked well and hold an edge..
antrik 26th Jun 2017, 10:54 PM edit delete reply
Indeed I wondered whether it might be made of something else than metal -- my question wasn't entirely rhetorical :-)

(No idea what "fiber glassed mono-filament" is supposed to be?...)
guest 27th Jun 2017, 8:43 AM edit delete reply
instead of fiberglass cloth,, use monofilament cloth ( fishing line ),, its twice as strong but 6 times expensive,,,
Stormwind13 27th Jun 2017, 6:53 AM edit delete reply

I've got to wonder, what brought the ship down? Was it a mechanical problem or hostile action?
megados 27th Jun 2017, 7:24 AM edit delete reply

That is a good question. I had pegged it as a malfunction, but that was an assumption on my part, because there didn't seem to be any outward indication of any hostile action. That doesn't necessarily rule it out though.
Stormwind13 27th Jun 2017, 11:19 AM edit delete reply

Maybe it was the Para-Power Ray cannon, megados. :-D Except the outsider made a better landing than Zin's spider did.
megados 27th Jun 2017, 1:15 PM edit delete reply

Pictured halfway down the page here? :D Then yeah, a much better landing, but it still "needs work"!
Timotheus 27th Jun 2017, 8:30 PM edit delete reply

Someone threw a rock at it.
CptKerion 27th Jun 2017, 7:48 AM edit delete reply
So I am looking at the pattern of what I first thought was rust on the skimmer. I'm pretty sure that it's actually dirt. Not necessarily especially recent dirt, I'd give it a few weeks. If you look on the last page there is an area of differently colored soil right on the rim on the edge of the rim which lacks any of the larger root structures and, if I've got my directions right, that scrape happens to be nearly in line with the area of the crash.
My guess, based on the angle of the crash and of the impact, is that the pilot wound up in a dive, scraped on the edge, and tried to pull up to avoid a total crash but wound up underneath the lip of that sinkhole.
They may also have been trying to land in the sinkhole to do something like an unobtrusive botanical survey, and come in too fast for some reason or other.

My bet, based on the relative height of the crab grass near the scrape right on the rim (near the top left corner of the last panel of the previous page), and the location of the crash, and condition of the vehicle, is that it happened a few weeks ago.
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