Comic 1509 - Part Of The Plan

16th Jul 2017, 9:00 PM
Part Of The Plan
Average Rating: 4.89 (18 votes)

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Timotheus 16th Jul 2017, 9:10 PM edit delete reply

I have a feeling Dolly is as unaware of the final moments of the conflict between Decimus and Acantha as everyone else. Her attention was all on her fight with Kali. Only Lynn knows the truth of the dual fatality, and her part in it.
antrik 17th Jul 2017, 8:34 AM edit delete reply
Actually, I'm pretty sure Dolly is very well aware of the events. Note that she doesn't *agree* with Calliope's reaction -- she just points out that it's understandable.

I do find it a bit odd though that she is defending Calliope's behaviour, instead of setting straight her misconceptions...
Timotheus 17th Jul 2017, 11:18 AM edit delete reply

What I'm referring to is the final act. I'm not sure if Dolly saw Arianna's act of heroism, but I'm pretty sure she missed Lynn's attempt to disarm Decimus and Acantha's and his final mutual shooting/stabbing in response. Lynn risked her life for Acantha, and Acantha nearly lost hers for Lynn. That's the relationship we're talking about here.
Sheela 18th Jul 2017, 11:21 AM edit delete reply

Neither dolly nor Calliope are aware of what a mighty douchebag Decimus was, nor that he tried to rape Acantha.
Had they known, they would also understand Lynn better.
HiFranc 16th Jul 2017, 9:26 PM edit delete reply

And they don't know about Decimus's attempt to rape her or the fact that her friendship with Aeneas protected her growing up?

Or why they were on the way to Aeneas at the time when everything was going to Hell? Did Dolly pay attention to what they were saying to each other? Or given thought why their father thought that changing Kali's inhibitor protocols was necessary?
HiFranc 16th Jul 2017, 9:37 PM edit delete reply

I agree with those who say that the arrival of grandma should help clear things up.

I suspect that she's been keeping an eye on things in New Rome.
cattservant 16th Jul 2017, 9:40 PM edit delete reply

Discussion is in order!
Stormwind13 17th Jul 2017, 5:04 AM edit delete reply

Agreed catt; however, emotions are ENGAGED. Going to be hard to discuss anything until emotions cool down, I think.
mjkj 16th Jul 2017, 9:44 PM edit delete reply

Uh, oh, falling out ahead...
megados 16th Jul 2017, 9:44 PM edit delete reply

Re: alt text, Calliope isn't wrong, no, but she nor the therapist knows the whole story. Lynn, for her part, should realize that, and work more toward their understanding. She should also realize that her defensive outbursts may be construed as evidence, (although false) of Acantha's complicity in such a plan.

Lynn's best course of action right now, might be to try to discuss it in a more calm and rational tone. Dolly, also might be helpful by giving her version of events, which might be more objective.
antrik 17th Jul 2017, 8:29 AM edit delete reply
Can't really blame Lynn though -- being confronted with such allegations against her protector and best friend (secret lover? :-P ), isn't exactly conductive to calm, rational consideration of the best diplomatic angle...
Gilrandir 17th Jul 2017, 9:20 AM edit delete reply
Still going to have to blame Lynn on this. In my opinion, any time someone chooses the emotional and irrational response over the alternative, the blame has to go to the one making the choice.

"Understandable" is not the same as "justifiable".
antrik 17th Jul 2017, 8:51 PM edit delete reply
@Gilrandir my point is that Calliope is not exactly rational here either. Lynn's reaction might not be smart, but it's predictable. (As for "justifiable", that's a whole other can of worms...)
Tokyo Rose 17th Jul 2017, 3:26 PM edit delete reply


DLKmusic 17th Jul 2017, 3:49 PM edit delete reply

My lord... why is it that whenever people see two characters of the same sex being friends, they immediately start shipping them?

To be honest, that's a trope I'm a little tired of seeing.
Ictuan 17th Jul 2017, 5:25 PM edit delete reply
@DLKmusic, I have to agree, it is very tiring. If the comment was done to raise Tokyo Rose's anti-shipping ire, which can be fun to read, it wasn't done with enough creativity.
antrik 17th Jul 2017, 8:46 PM edit delete reply
@DLKmusic I'm just as tired -- which is why I'm making fun of it :-)
antrik 17th Jul 2017, 8:43 PM edit delete reply
@Tokyo Rose but how could I stop, when you never fail to encourage me like that?... ;-)
Tokyo Rose 18th Jul 2017, 4:36 AM edit delete reply


*quiet, ominous frothing*
Sheela 18th Jul 2017, 11:24 AM edit delete reply

*adds sprinkles to the froth*

Romfire 16th Jul 2017, 9:53 PM edit delete reply
Do androids have as many problems with tendencies like confirmation bias as humans?
We humans can bend our perceptions of events to match any preconceived notion.
Tokyo Rose 17th Jul 2017, 3:29 PM edit delete reply

Androids are generally less prone to that sort of thing, due to the way they store and recall events, but they're not incapable of it.
Sheela 18th Jul 2017, 11:25 AM edit delete reply

Having perfect recall would alleviate a whole lot of such misconceptions.

They would still see the world through their own filter and biases though.
DLKmusic 16th Jul 2017, 10:44 PM edit delete reply

I want to know how getting stabbed in the heart is part of Acantha's elaborate scheme, As well as the condition that her body was in, which when examined by New Troy Physicians, indicated that she had been suffering from repeated abuse for a long period.

obviously faked...
Stormwind13 17th Jul 2017, 5:27 AM edit delete reply

Wouldn't be the first time that conspirators turned on one another, DLK. Calliope knows nothing to not lead her to that possibility.

While I agree that Acantha is blameless, how would Calliope KNOW that? I mean, she didn't get to watch (like the readers) of the trials the two young women. Even Dolly had less than an hour to form an impression Acantha Open Doors (12 October 2015) showed 0425 just before Dolly met her. At 0520 Good News (27 April 2016) just seconds before colliding with Douchimus <and Kali>. All while running for their lives. So probably not the BEST time to form an impression.
TheSkulker 18th Jul 2017, 1:11 AM edit delete reply

Actually, how could she not know? Her daughter was kidnapped, mistreated, almost killed, returns from a war zone with a companion with a near fatal stab wound and is in mama bear mode. Is Cali not going to stick to Lynn like glue and ask a thousand questions? Is Lynn not going to tell her mom about all the trauma she experienced and how Acantha basically saved her? Is Lynn not going to tell her mom about how she saved Acantha from being raped, about how Maxus protected them both, about Dickhead shooting Kyle, about Acantha's and Aeneas' friendship, about seeing Dickhead kill Ariana and stab Acantha? And a ton of other things.

It doesn't take that long to give a pretty good synopsis of the events - very easily done in an hour or two. Moma bear must have spent at least that much time with Lynn in the full day since she got back.There's no way in hell that Cali hasn't heard much, much more than what we have seen onscreen. Is Cali in denial? Obtuse? Why is she not giving Lynn any respect? Mama bear blinders cannot be that thick!
Tokyo Rose 18th Jul 2017, 4:39 AM edit delete reply


Argh, wrestling with spoilers here. About all I can say is that Lynn is accustomed to NOT talking to her mother.
TheSkulker 18th Jul 2017, 11:34 PM edit delete reply

OK.I'll buy that. That would make her actions in character and understandable.
megados 17th Jul 2017, 7:06 AM edit delete reply

Again, that's how I saw it too, DLKmusic. It doesn't make sense to give any great weight to notions that Acantha is in any position to harm Lynn. If anything, the therapist should watch them interact, and form an opinion based on evidence, rather than making snap decisions based on nothing more than supposition. It's like Lynn has Nurse Ratchet as a therapist. I can't blame Calliope, because she seems to be trying to follow advice from a professional, but I think any professional worth their diploma would go by evidence rather than guesswork.
antrik 17th Jul 2017, 8:50 AM edit delete reply
It might not seem entirely inconceivable, with limited knowledge of the situation, that the Livius siblings may have been plotting together, before things went south and they turned on each other. However, given the circumstances -- even just those Calliope knows about -- I'd say she is just being paranoid.

(Or unwilling to admit that she might be in the wrong; digging the hole deeper instead -- another all too human behavioural pattern...)
Stormwind13 17th Jul 2017, 10:00 AM edit delete reply

Paranoid or could it be a remnant of the crippling depression Calliope was in for YEARS? Not something that fixes itself overnight. It is a daily struggle to recover from, in my experience.
Sheela 18th Jul 2017, 2:23 PM edit delete reply

Alternatively, Lynn could suffer from Sulking Teenager Syndrome.

Well, I guess it's really Dolly and Calliope that suffers from it. :D
megados 18th Jul 2017, 4:58 PM edit delete reply

Lynn doesn't suffer from it; she seems to enjoy it. >_<
HiFranc 16th Jul 2017, 10:57 PM edit delete reply

I just had a horrible thought. Maybe, Calliope's reaction is just the reason that Decimus stuck them together in the first place?
antrik 17th Jul 2017, 8:54 AM edit delete reply
If he was this cunning, none of these things would have happened in the first place :-)
Gilrandir 17th Jul 2017, 6:01 PM edit delete reply
I disagree with this statement, @antrik. I consider it possible that Acantha was an element of his plan, albeit an unwitting one. (I actually consider it likely.) Recall, one of his options was to marry Lynn.
antrik 17th Jul 2017, 8:57 PM edit delete reply
True; but suggesting the marriage was an incredibly stupid idea, not a cunning one... While Acantha might have been a part of his plan in some way, I seriously doubt he was planning for *this* to happen.
Rashala 16th Jul 2017, 11:22 PM edit delete reply

Calli is still in mamma bear mode it takes a while for that to pass usually once her momma smacks her it will be over. Til then she just came out of adeep depression andi can understand her feelings though she is overlooking decision attempted acantha rape and near fatal stabbing ACD subsequent Kali cremation.

*rash also while posting this takes possession of 10 ultra heavy duty combat spec antigravity generators and thruster units a butterfly stencil, three kegs AF beer and enough ballistic and energy ammo to blow mars off its a is before hiding in his evil lair and laughing manically!!!!*
TheSkulker 17th Jul 2017, 2:06 AM edit delete reply

OK, this is now getting a bit hard to suspend belief. As was mentioned "yesterday", a thorough debriefing is in order. In fact, that should have been one of the first orders of business. Why in hell has it not happened?

These people are not stupid. There has obviously been enough time (days?), to debrief each and every one of the participants either singles or jointly. All of this should be well known by now, especially the circumstances regarding the "dual killings" of Dec and Acantha. To have a head of state come in with a near fatal stab wound and not ask what happened? To set multiple teams on a difficult and potentially catastrophic mission and not ask what happened? To be apprised of the near civil war in New Rome and not gather as much info as possible to assess a possible threat to New Troy? To witness the shenanigans of Cent-Comm regarding Ceci, Aeneas, and Dec's contingency setup and not talking about it? To not expect that Cali has set down with Lynn just to hug and comfort each other and to share their experiences/feelings? No, that would not be realistic of either human behavior nor of military operations.

Yes, Cali is acting like a mother and both Cali and Dolly still see Lynn as a child. Neither one appreciates the hell that Lynn has been through and the life changes that it has wrought nor the value of Acantha's aid in getting Lynn out alive. Lynn is still reeling from the experience and is rebelling at being treated as a little child and at being separated from Acantha on the flimsy excuse of the "Stockholm syndrome". Teenagers are not known for their patience!

Note to self: THIS IS FICTION!!! No matter that the creatrixes are so damm good that they have made a fictional world so realistic and a story so believable that one cannot help becoming emotionally invested in the characters - it is still fiction. Try and remember that and go read some Donald Duck.
Tokyo Rose 17th Jul 2017, 3:57 AM edit delete reply

This is the day after Shit Went Down In New Rome.
Stormwind13 17th Jul 2017, 4:29 AM edit delete reply

And there is lots of shit to deal with on the home front. Everyone is still scrambling to adjust to the changes in the world.
Centcomm 17th Jul 2017, 2:21 PM edit delete reply

The briefings are still to come. they are still sorting out whats going on.
TheSkulker 17th Jul 2017, 5:41 PM edit delete reply

I would expect they are trying to sort things out. After all, they know Nova Roma is in chaos, is armed to the teeth, leaderless and with who knows how many red buttons at risk. Since New Troy has no onsite intel that we know of, NT is now operating in the dark. Any and all possible info sources must be exploited and quickly., i.e., including Lynn and Acantha. So why the delay?

In a high state of flux war room situation where seconds may count, sending Lynn to a therapist takes priority over debriefing her of her unique perspective? This does not seem to make much sense. While, presumably, Marcus, Ada and Teedee have been debriefed off screen, they have very little first hand knowledge of Maxus, his character or ability to maintain control. Lynn has seen many examples of Maxus' integrity and abilities which would be very critical in strategizing New Troy's response. Acantha is politically astute, knows the players and probably has some good insights as to possible outcomes.

From a long term perspective, Acantha is a head of state that is being subjected to a near prisoner status. This will be remembered and have consequences. Lynn is the only friendly face available that could help ease any anxieties or concerns that may arise. It is very much in New Troy's interest to avail itself of the opportunity to facilitate developing good relations with Nova Roma - even if the Stockholm Syndrome was a reality. After all, it is canon that Lynn was to be terminated if she could not be extricated.
DLKmusic 17th Jul 2017, 3:46 PM edit delete reply

I would like to point out too, that although Calli is a serious nutcase right now, Dolly has not taken sides in this issue yet. She snapped at Lynn for Yelling in the last frame, not because she's siding with Cailiope... And she was correct in doing so.

It is yet to be determined what Dolly's position is, other than she is trying to see both sides.
megados 17th Jul 2017, 6:39 PM edit delete reply

I am willing to bet that Dolly hasn't decided yet which 'side' to be on. Most likely, rather than picking sides, she will try to bring the sides together.
antrik 17th Jul 2017, 9:06 PM edit delete reply
@DLKmusic see my other comment: while I too think that Dolly is trying to avoid picking sides, the way she is dealing with the situation right now is not exactly helpful...
Just_IDD 17th Jul 2017, 5:33 AM edit delete reply
All Lynn really needs to say is that Acantha shot her brother as he stabbed her in the heart. You don't scheme fraternal murder. At least not with the person you are killing.
Hornet 17th Jul 2017, 6:13 AM edit delete reply
Thinking about it. Lynn should probably just be quite and let her mom say what she wants, she's not listening to Lynn anyway. Follow her mothers orders and go listen to the head-shrinker babble out their BS.. Love head-shrinkers, they talk like they have a clue and yet half of what they studied was written by people either insane or on better drugs then you can get your hands on.
megados 17th Jul 2017, 6:58 AM edit delete reply

From Lynn's point of view, that would mean being quiet, and playing nice while all she wants to do is be with her friend, and Acantha lays and wonders why she has been abandoned. From her perspective, that would be to waste that time doing nothing while people who really don't know the situation tell her what's best. Calli, and the therapist mean well, but they really are not helping at this time.
Dragonrider 17th Jul 2017, 7:01 AM edit delete reply

A.Dolly is aware that Lynn clocked a drunk Douchie when he tried to rape Acantha.
B. She remarked how much Lynn had grown emotionally during this.
C. Dolly would have told Caliope the full story.
D. Caliope is acting out of anger using ages old and political opinion about Nova Roma to justify the rage. Also she bears the guilt of her being a drunk when her daughter needed her. She also feels guilty about allowing her daughter to casually take a road trip to shack up with a twit in a city hundreds if not thousands of miles away. She's a lousy Mother and knows it, she is the one needing counseling. Plus she needs a term in the slammer for mental child abuse. Given her posion neither will happen.
antrik 17th Jul 2017, 8:55 AM edit delete reply
Is Calliope your Evil #1 now? ;-)
Dragonrider 17th Jul 2017, 12:45 PM edit delete reply

She's neck and neck tied with the Asian iceberg. I respect what she accomplished before Fallon died. I respect her position in the New Troy totem pole of people. None ofthat excuses her absentee Mother attitude. If she had crawled out of the bottle a few years ago and been a Mother to Lynn none of this would have happened. Lynn's Birthday Party would have been at home where it should have been with no shack up attached. If my daughter had announced she was going several hundred miles away and spend the time with some twit she would have gotten grounded till she was 21.
Centcomm 17th Jul 2017, 2:22 PM edit delete reply

well to be fair she has known that 'twit' sense they were kids.
Tokyo Rose 17th Jul 2017, 11:48 PM edit delete reply

This analysis was going pretty well up until the "term in the slammer for mental child abuse" part...
Steven-Vincent 17th Jul 2017, 1:04 PM edit delete reply

I can understand the reasoning here but anyone who had spent any time with psycho-boy would realize he was not capable of the type of subtle manipulation she's afraid of.
Centcomm 17th Jul 2017, 2:23 PM edit delete reply

see and this is the problem - no one but Acantha and a few others KNOWS just how bad shit crazy he was,
Steven-Vincent 17th Jul 2017, 2:48 PM edit delete reply

You'd have to see it to believe it.
Stormwind13 17th Jul 2017, 4:21 PM edit delete reply

Even seeing it, I would be hard pressed to believe it. Douchimus was a SPECIAL kind of garbage.
Phoebe 17th Jul 2017, 2:26 PM edit delete reply
Seriously now. If my best friend had just nearly died, was still in hospital waiting for a heart transplant, was afraid she is going to be a political hostage or murdered, I only had Cent's word this is not the case... and the only person who MAY hold back Cent if she is plotting to do so is my mother, who is openly hostile towards my best friend... do I need to continue describing her situation? You wouldn't have gotten me away from that hospital room (though I would have taken my fighting outside).

Sure, Lyn is not smart enough in handling people, as she could choose key events to use as arguments, instead of just saying "that's not how it is!" Then again, she IS a teenager. And as much as Calliope is justified in worrying, she is simply not listening enough. Not that she will have a chance to listen if she keeps "knowing better".
Hornet 18th Jul 2017, 5:48 AM edit delete reply
Given that last panel Lynn might just be about ready to start a physical confrontation. Course she does that and any chance of doing anything but being locked in her room goes right out the window.
Tokyo Rose 18th Jul 2017, 4:48 PM edit delete reply

Calliope isn't claiming to "know better"; she's explaining WHY she was worried about the possibility of Stockholm Syndrome, NOT saying that she was sure of it, and Lynn is responding as if her mother IS saying that. Which one of them is not listening?
Mark_L_A 18th Jul 2017, 8:52 PM edit delete reply

If I recall correctly from Lynn's abduction to her rescue was less than 2 weeks. Lynn was kidnapped, S&R got ambushed same day, Dolly was told she'd need to upgrade her body. Next day Dolly got upgraded, spent 3 days integrating while CentComm formulated plans and made preparations, (got the Nevarro sabotaged, spun up CeCi, talked to Mr. Black and got Marcus, Silver and Connie prepared.

Dolly finally integrated and woke up, so we're now at day 4 after abduction. Dolly and CeCi took off to Lynn's ambush site, find Logrin's place, Dr Demark and TeeDee and Ada's Q drives. She and CeCi spent the night at Logrin's and had Dr Demark and the drives picked up the next morning. 5 days now.

TeeDee and Ada are reloaded by Silver and while Ada is integrating, Silver, Marcus and Connie take off with Mr. Black to get the registration on his new ship "fixed". Dolly runs into the storm and her drive screws up so she has to land for repairs and runs in to Scumbag and takes her into custody, then proceeds to get hammered with Breaker. Wakes up the next morning, Day 6, and kills the guttes and finds out that her ship was sabotaged, while Silver "Fixes" CeCi's morality framework. While Dolly is examining CeCi's braincase to try to figure out what is wrong, Mr Black lands his merry crew in Ahta, where Marcus uses percussive therapy on TeeDee to get her to fully integrate, while Mr Black loads up a Murder-turd.

Not sure of the time line here, but I'm making the assumption that Mr Black and his Merry Band of recidivists takes off that evening and gets to Roma on the morning of Day 7. Meanwhile Dolly took off in the afternoon and gets to Roma in the evening.

That evening, Dolly and CeCi turn over our favorite punching bag to Noctis and go to their room.

Marcus and Mr Black set up their "party favors" for 0400 while Dolly is gearing up.
Kyle tries his ill advised rescue attempt putting the ENTIRE palace on alert and douchie boy decides to get rid of Maxus once and for all. Dolly receives the message to hold until she gets a signal.

0400 comes around and we are on Day 8 since Lynn's abduction. Dolly gets to Lynn Aeneas is restored to sanity, CeCi sacrifices herself to stop the Contingencies, Dolly and Kali get into a fight after Dolly turns douchie boys teeth into chiclets, while dolly and Kali are fighting Douchie kills Arianna, beats on Lynn and stabs Acantha while getting ventilated himself by Acantha.

Kali seeing what Douchie has done activated her own self destruct to take out douchie. then TeeDee and Ada arrive and start to give medical care to Acantha.

Acantha is medevaced and by my count we are at Day 9 or Day 10 since Lynn's abduction. How is Lynn supposed to be suffering from Stockholm syndrome in that amount of time?
Phoebe 19th Jul 2017, 8:26 AM edit delete reply
Oh, I'm not talking about the Stockholm syndrome at all. I'm talking about her hostility towards Acantha - which she is now basically accusing. On an IF/COULD basis, yes, but still accusing (I don't think a "I'm treating your friend badly because I think he MIGHT be evil" won't make you nearly as mad as "your friend IS evil").

I don't think Lyn would be reacting that badly if Calli had gone in, was all polite to Acantha, then went "you know while she's asleep I want you to see a doctor yourself". Instead she goes in, Lyn (if I remember well) is basically in a mode of "mom, here's my friend, look, she's awake!" and she's all "see, she hasn't croacked, that's all I'm willing to respect regarding how you feel about her, we are out of here".
Yeah, so maybe "listening" is not the most proper term, "realising what your kid is feeling and not disregard it completely because you have a theory she may not know well enough" is better...
Stormwind13 17th Jul 2017, 7:41 PM edit delete reply

Nice picture of Lynn, CentComm. Thank you for the new vote incentive. :-)
megados 17th Jul 2017, 8:09 PM edit delete reply

I had voted already, so I 'tried' again to see it. Very nice! Thanks, Centcomm!
Ictuan 18th Jul 2017, 4:24 PM edit delete reply
It is nice to get a new vote incentive.
guest 17th Jul 2017, 9:56 PM edit delete reply
very nice vote incentive..
... jus had a thought... hey Cali you wanna SEE how much a nut job Douchimus was..!!! have Dolly play back everything from when she met him.. ,, it may all be in the back ground, but still there..
mjkj 17th Jul 2017, 11:26 PM edit delete reply

Great incentive - thank you, Cent <3
Hornet 18th Jul 2017, 5:57 AM edit delete reply
New Mammogram machine???
Sheela 18th Jul 2017, 2:26 PM edit delete reply

Lynn : "C'mon, c'mon .. just a little bit bigger that would be mag!"
Gilrandir 18th Jul 2017, 12:51 PM edit delete reply
"... all Stockholmed and crazy." This is the Lynn of 1500+ pages ago. Welcome back, Lynn! ^_^

Hopefully Dolly will be pleased later that her family appears to have gotten through the intervening events without being changed in any significant way at all -- although it does seem likely that Calliope will probably not lapse back into quite as somnolent a state this time.
megados 18th Jul 2017, 1:25 PM edit delete reply

Ohhh, I think Dolly is already somewhat pleased. It's almost as if Lynn was never gone, in some ways.

*magical ethereal comments* ;)
DLKmusic 18th Jul 2017, 3:01 PM edit delete reply

Actually, I think Dolly will be pleased that the family got through this, and everyone has grown stronger from it.

Lynn HAS matured a lot from this, but she's off balance because her mom has changed too. Calli woke up and realized that if she had had a better grip on things in the first place, this might not have happened.

Unfortunately, Calli's pendulum has swung too far in the other direction, and Lynn is reverting back to a 13 year old right now because she doesn't know how else to deal with her mother.

And poor Dolly is stuck in the middle of that. Let's see what the Evil Duo have in store for us on a resolution here, next time, on "As the Apocolypse Turns"....

PS. Soap Opera joke aside, I am enjoying this immensely...
Ictuan 18th Jul 2017, 4:28 PM edit delete reply
Dolly is also stuck in that chair being repaired so she can't do much. Hopefully her repairs are completed quickly and maybe she can get a first person observation of Lynn and Acantha. Maybe a solid observational report from Dolly about Acantha could help calm down Calliope.
megados 18th Jul 2017, 4:32 PM edit delete reply

I was being a bit facetious. Lynn has matured some; she was forced to. Right now though, unfortunately, she is hiding it well. The main point she is missing, is that to be taken seriously, she is going to have to act like it. Dolly could help her here, but I think she is going to want Lynn to quit acting like a kid.
HeSerpenty 21st Jul 2017, 12:52 PM edit delete reply

Dolly...trying to mediate here X"D. Gotta love her for trying. But oh boy--looks like a long time needed talk is underway!
Centcomm 23rd Jul 2017, 1:35 PM edit delete reply

oh yes...
Centcomm 23rd Jul 2017, 1:35 PM edit delete reply

oh yes...
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