Comic 1510 - Redirection

18th Jul 2017, 9:00 PM
Redirection
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Mark_L_A 18th Jul 2017, 9:01 PM edit delete reply

And Dolly straight up admits that "Yes, she DOES do that, and your point is what?"
Stormwind13 19th Jul 2017, 4:47 AM edit delete reply

Do as I say, not as I do!
DLKmusic 18th Jul 2017, 9:02 PM edit delete reply

Thank you Dolly for being a voice of Frickin Reason!!!!!
cattservant 18th Jul 2017, 9:05 PM edit delete reply

The voice of reason.
Stormwind13 19th Jul 2017, 6:05 AM edit delete reply

But is it reasonable to expect, catt? :-D
cattservant 19th Jul 2017, 4:26 PM edit delete reply

Not really.
mjkj 18th Jul 2017, 9:06 PM edit delete reply

Nice councelling, Dolly =D
megados 18th Jul 2017, 9:11 PM edit delete reply

Good reasoning, Dolly. Lynn, apologize to Calli, and maybe Calli consider apologizing, and we can discuss this calmly and rationally.

Very good dialogue on this page, Rose. Kudos!
Tokyo Rose 19th Jul 2017, 6:42 AM edit delete reply

Thanks. It was interesting to write. :D
megados 20th Jul 2017, 5:57 AM edit delete reply

Having had two teenage daughters, I can relate. I look forward to the ensuing pages. :)
KarToon12 18th Jul 2017, 9:25 PM edit delete reply

Is it bad of me to think that I think Dolly's a better mom to her?
DLKmusic 18th Jul 2017, 9:30 PM edit delete reply

I think it's safe to say that Dolly has been a Mom to Lynn for most of Lynn's life.
Stormwind13 19th Jul 2017, 4:43 AM edit delete reply

No KarToon. Dolly has had way more practice being a mom than Calliope. She was also a mom to Calliope, as well as to Athena (to some degree).
Romfire 18th Jul 2017, 10:25 PM edit delete reply
Dolly needs to apologize to Calliope for dissing her latest and best work. I.E. Dolly's new body. If she can't see by now that they want her to be part of the family, not some hired guardian, she is in need of some couch time with a psych-tech.
She may not have been kidnapped, but she did have the living crap beat out of her and is in physical treatment for it as they speak.
They could hire Officer Ray as a replacement guardian so Dolly can actually live a little.
Tokyo Rose 19th Jul 2017, 6:42 AM edit delete reply

Dolly hasn't been a "hired guardian" for years; she's already part of the family. The "Model 5" body is very much a prototype, so Calli needs the beta-test feedback. She isn't offended by it.
Stormwind13 19th Jul 2017, 10:12 AM edit delete reply

The question is does Dolly think of herself as the mother/sister the Taylors' do, Rose? I get the impression Dolly has stopped short of that, something like retainer instead of a Taylor (parallel with Arianna?). Calliope needs to adopt Dolly (hopefully not as her life drains out like Arianna).
Sheela 19th Jul 2017, 2:09 PM edit delete reply

It's possible that her old body wasn't capable of taking that last step and become one with the family.

Who knows what the new body will allow her to do ?
megados 19th Jul 2017, 5:30 PM edit delete reply

@Sheela, how/why would her previous body keep her from being part of the family? The Taylors already considered her to be. The synth brain would have had a similar capacity for emotion (caring and love) in either case. If Dolly loves them more, or cares more now, my guess would be that it is because of what they had just been through, and the relief that everyone is now safe, and new appreciation based on that.

Maybe I just don't understand?
Sheela 20th Jul 2017, 12:59 PM edit delete reply

We don't actually know if her old brain, despite all her upgrades, where indeed fully capable of "taking it to the next level", so to speak.

We also don't know if it was capable of doing so.
I suspect it will be part of the upcoming story ?
megados 20th Jul 2017, 3:59 PM edit delete reply

That's true, we don't know for sure. I gathered that the upgrades tended toward things like better speed, modules allowing extra functionality, provisions for enhanced sensory input, and things like that. My thought was, that the part that holds her core persona and emotions - the part that makes Dolly Dolly, remained unchanged. I could, of course, be entirely wrong.
Rashala 18th Jul 2017, 11:43 PM edit delete reply

Like I said momma bear mode she will calm soon and maybe realize the nightmare acantha hashad to live in and be more motherly to her.


Though I think they all are still pissed at centy for the trojan horse move. I know I am cause it cost USA bright shiny pink star.


Side note anyone know if tedee has a preferred camp pattern she likes for things.


Reason? No reason idle curiosity


* duck back in lab*
Gilrandir 19th Jul 2017, 2:31 AM edit delete reply
Where is Calliope during this page?
Just_IDD 19th Jul 2017, 4:05 AM edit delete reply
My guess is that Calliope is doing what a good girl does when her mommy is talking. Don't forget she was raised by Dolly as well. This makes her almost a sister to her daughter. If that doesn't make for a weird relationship I don't know what does. Calli has never really been a mommy to Lynn. The sad thing is you can't start that later. You have to do it right away from the get-go otherwise you don't get that attention
Stormwind13 19th Jul 2017, 6:47 AM edit delete reply

I'm not as sure of that, Just_IDD. I think Calliope might have been mommy before Fallon died. So during Lynn's formative years, she may have formed strong bonds. Afterward, it was a train wreck leaving Dolly to do all the rearing.

If they did have four years together as mother and daughter though there should be something for Lynn and Calliope to work with. Whatever exists currently is in tatters, possibly warped by the indifference that was shown, but it might be enough for them to reestablish a true mother/daughter relationship. Only time will tell.
Tokyo Rose 19th Jul 2017, 6:38 AM edit delete reply

She's standing off-panel, letting Dolly do the talking. It's not like she jumped a shuttle to Mars or something. :D
megados 19th Jul 2017, 12:39 PM edit delete reply

@Stormwind13, as you say that, and put it that way, it suggests to me a possible direction, in that this set of trials and ordeals could prove cathartic for Calli and Lynn both. (once they get done arguing, that is)
Siren 19th Jul 2017, 12:53 PM edit delete reply
Plus Acantha was nearly killed by her brother in the middle of a rebellion by Acantha supporters. WE know she wasn't planning a coup to steal her brother's throne, but to an outsider it could just look like typical Game of Thrones-esque shenanigans with Calli's daughter being used as a pawn for political purposes.

WE know they bonded over shared trauma and danger, but she was vulnerable and scared enough Acantha would have had little difficulty manipulating her such that their friendship was really just Stockholm Syndrome. That's not what happened, but it's not a possibility everyone else can just dismiss.
Timotheus 19th Jul 2017, 2:15 PM edit delete reply

I guess what I'm trying to say is I believe that while not a form of Stockholm Syndrome in any way, Lynn cannot be psychologically disassociated from Acantha's final confrontation with Decimus and should be allowed to see the aftermath through with her for both their sakes.
Acantha could only muster the nerve to finally shoot her brother after experiencing the sacrifices of others in her name, first her bodyguard, then Ariana, and finally Lynn's attempt to disarm Decimus. It was Decimus's striking Lynn that put Acantha's finger to the trigger of her gun with the intent to use it.
This is where Decimus miscalculated, by herself Acantha couldn't have shot him (as he claimed), but in the cause of those who'd sacrificed themselves for her and especially to protect Lynn she would do it. So when he clumsily tried to stab her (he would have been much more lethal if his thumb hadn't been broken by Lynn) she fired her custom made high powered Desert Eagle equivalent at point blank into his super-duper personal armor that was supposed to protect him from everything (making him feel rather invulnerable)and drilled a hole into his chest cavity.
antrik 19th Jul 2017, 3:29 PM edit delete reply
Now that's an interesting interpretation of the events. I always took Acantha's use of the gun as a simple self-defence reflex...
Centcomm 19th Jul 2017, 6:56 PM edit delete reply

I can run with this Tim :D
Tokyo Rose 20th Jul 2017, 3:42 PM edit delete reply

I can't, Cent.

There was no one left who could save Acantha, and she knew it. Years of abuse and terror, and the basic human drive for self-preservation, brought her to the deed, not concern for anyone else in that moment.

She had always known that in a true confrontation with Decimus, the only option she would have to ensure her own survival was the use of lethal force. Previously, there had always been SOMEONE around who could stop the situation short of that point. But in this case, Dolly and Kali were fighting, Arianna was dead, and Lynn was nothing more than a minor speed bump that Decimus had just run right over. Acantha was out of options.

It is essential to remember that she was accustomed to HAVING HER FRIENDS DIE because of her brother. What truly prompted her to pull the trigger was the fact that she was the only one left who could put up any kind of serious attempt to protect her own life, and she was absolutely done dealing with Decimus's crazy shit.
HiFranc 19th Jul 2017, 5:29 PM edit delete reply

I think that they would confirm Lynn's assertions if they performed a psychological assessment on Acantha. However, I don't see Noctis agreeing to that and I am not sure that Acantha would.
megados 19th Jul 2017, 5:41 PM edit delete reply

Hmmm, I don't think Acantha or Noctis would necessarily object to a psych evaluation. It could be as beneficial to Acantha's wellbeing, as it would to discerning the veracity of Lynn's assertions.

I had thought that just observing them interacting would accomplish a similar result without approaching Acantha about a psych workup.
Gilrandir 20th Jul 2017, 7:39 AM edit delete reply
I suspect Noctis would object to an in-depth evaluation of Acantha by a New Troy psychological technician on general principles. During any kind of therapy (if you're doing it right) you expose all kinds of vulnerabilities and potentially reveal all kinds of sensitive information. The sorts of practitioners permitted to attend heads of state in that way are usually evaluated quite carefully.

If there were an urgent or pressing need, then of course things would be different. But, since there does not appear to be, anything more than a basic evaluation can probably wait until Acantha is back in Nova Roma. It seems likely to me, therefore, that if the subject came up, Noctis would point this out.
megados 20th Jul 2017, 3:15 PM edit delete reply

I've never had, nor know anyone who has been given a psych evaluation, so I don't know a lot about what it entails. You may be right, but to me it doesn't seem as though it would have to be that 'in-depth' to gauge whether Acantha poses a danger to Lynn's psychological wellbeing. Maybe it does; I don't know. I tried to skirt the issue by suggesting that Lynn's therapist sit in as Lynn and Acantha interact. That might give enough insight into whether there is any negative impact.

If, in fact, it is as you say, and a proper evaluation of that sort (to determine the health of the relationship as it pertains to Lynn's mental health, and cursory overview of Acantha's overall mental health) would require that level of detail, then you are absolutely right that Noctis would object. I did not envision the detail level of the evaluation had to be such that it posed a security risk for New Rome, or Acantha herself.
Gilrandir 20th Jul 2017, 5:09 PM edit delete reply
Disclaimer: I am not, and never have been, any kind of therapist or mental health professional.

I imagine a big part of any meaningful evaluation includes the therapist learning the patient's 'tells' so they can reliably predict if the patient is lying (even to themselves). Obviously in that first 15-minute post-trauma interview you don't have time for that, but I'm sure Acantha's already been through that a couple of times by now. We're now talking about next stage or nothing -- and that would probably take at least a couple of hours. (In my opinion.)
Gilrandir 20th Jul 2017, 7:47 AM edit delete reply
Wild prediction time: the thing that will break through Calliope's reserve is Acantha's nightmares.

Why nightmares, you ask? She just shot her brother and was just stabbed by her last living relative. If Calliope hears that Acantha is going through a rough patch and believes that Lynn's company might help, I doubt she'd let an exaggerated and (as we know but she doesn't) misplaced concern allow a young girl to suffer.

However, if Acantha's doing just fine ..., stop whining Lynn and learn how grown-ups do cost-benefit analysis and risk assessment.
HeSerpenty 21st Jul 2017, 12:54 PM edit delete reply

I love how she actually stops and listens to Dolly X"D
Centcomm 23rd Jul 2017, 1:35 PM edit delete reply

Dolly has the MOM look down pat. :D
nekaz 10th May 2022, 9:14 PM edit delete reply

uh rule for thee not for me
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