That I doubt, the curriculum for a 21st century shrink is crazy enough as it is, I don't wanna know how bad it is in the future - But I'm pretty sure Dolly still have much to learn in that area of expertise!
There is book learning and then there is REAL world experience. Dolly has been working with children, teaching, loving and guiding them. I promise you, she knows some things that aren't in the books. :-)
Re alt text: I wouldn't be quick to say that Dolly screwed up. None of her actions were responsible for this outcome. If it's meant to describe her lack of intervention in Calliope's 'slough', I might say that she may not have felt it to be her place to do so. She should heed her own advice, too, as it refers to taking blame for Decimus' actions. If it's meant to describe her letting Lynn fly alone to New Sparta, Lynn and Calliope both agreed Lynn be allowed to do so.
I would also argue that she is actually in a good position to mediate the discussion between Lynn and her mother; she knows both of them well, they are comfortable with her, and she already knows she might tend to want to stop the conflict and guard against that. With or without the psych tech, Dolly should be there. She is as much a part of the discussion as anyone, if not in mediation, then as a participant.
As a participant perhaps, but initially she would just add additional confusion. Her role in the situation was as the enabler that let Calliope dodge her responsibilities to Lynn. That this was done with complete love and commitment to both women just makes the situation worse and makes it harder to separate Dolly from the mix.
I'm not sure, megados. I think that Dolly allowed Calliope to wallow in her depression. She knew it wasn't good for Calliope, but she 'failed' to address the situation. Which is very unlike her. Dolly normally doesn't shy away from confronting problems.
If Dolly were to participate, she says she would be trying to get the conflict to stop. She is correct that she is NOT unbiased nor neutral. The problem with that is that it wouldn't allow them to clean out the emotional wound and truly allow it to heal.
I'm not sure Dolly is any smarter, the brain she has now is superior to her old brain. We know that CentComm detected more emotional response in the new body, not that Dolly was smarter.
I wonder if it was simply that Dolly didn't have something, some kind of lever, to keep Calliope out of her shell long enough to address the problem. Calliope indicated that Dolly had tried to talk to her, but she hadn't listened. Right now Calliope is out and exposed, Dolly doesn't sound like she is going to let her crawl back into her shell (bottle).
Dolly is her own fiercest critic. It would be easy for her to think she screwed up. Objectively I can't call it a screw-up because it really can't be shown that she could have prevented Calliope from falling down the rabbit hole, or Lynn from being kidnapped. Hindsight is always 20/20. Even though she wasn't allowed to agree or disagree whether Lynn should be allowed to go alone, she probably blames herself for it.
Chances are good that she might initially add some confusion, but (IMO) she would add a dimension of perspective that might otherwise be hard to obtain. I think her love and commitment, and insight would be beneficial to the discussion. True, she is not unbiased, but that shouldn't preclude her from the discussion, although it advocates for the psych tech to be present.
Interestingly, this situation does seem to argue for the assertion that Dolly has had a paradigm shift. Whether it is because of the new body, or because of experience, she is no longer content to sit idly by and allow Calliope to fall back into her stupor.
I agree, a paradigm shift of some sort has happened.
Frankly, I think Dolly has been through too much shit, and has decided that enough is enough - Shit has to happen !
Though she'd be too polite, to ever say "shit". :D
@megados well, Dolly *does* blame herself -- she said so on multiple occasions. It's just that her "failure" is not really *agreeing* to the solo trip; but rather, simply not protesting it enough...
Dolly's opinion, as the person who primarily raised Lynn, was that Lynn could handle the actual trip just fine. She wasn't going to start doing barrel rolls and Immelmanns, or diverge from her planned course to go sightseeing in the Wastelands or conduct a scythe-lizard safari.
Dolly's concern was for Lynn's personal safety, and as the entire story thus far has demonstrated, Dolly wasn't wrong to be worried about that.
No catt, I definitely think game is the wrong word here. I don't know if there are ANY rules to this event. And no one here is playing. This is more like close combat with chainsaws, if Lynn's salvo last page is any indication.
Dolly knows that her actions to protect her loved ones help to cause some of the psychological issue that have occurred. She knows SHE cannot be in that room because of her own instincts to protect her family.
I agree too. Having had to make use of various
"psyche-techs" over the past few years, one thing I know is that you have to relive the emotions that are at the root of the problem. As a protector, Dolly would want to shield Lynn and Callie from that pain/anger/whatever, and that would adversely affect the therapy.
I can understand that Ania; however, they should have each OTHER. They are family (as is Dolly). If Dolly is there, she would likely be counterproductive to fixing the long term problem (considering it got to this point after all).
Um. Perhaps the one common person that they both respect? Like Centcom?
Though that may not work well with Callie's history with Cent. It is also possible that Cent may not be able to be neutral as well. She did the same thing Dolly did.
I'm not sure that Lynn would be comfortable with CentComm mediating. Some of her past comments about CentComm make me wonder if she would open up with CentComm in the room.
Great googly-moogly. I love this page. Caliope's all like I was selfish and self indulgent. Woe is me. Woe! When you look at it this is really all my fault. I'm to blame I'm going to spend the next twenty years self indulgently tearing my hair over how awful I am.
Dolly : Decimus was an a-hole! His fault, not yours.
Dolly : Also, you two need to TALK! ... with a head tech.
Lynn : Don' wanna! *Wah* I want you babe!
Dolly : Nope! Go, go - head tech!
Well, in my opinion, you are NOT a shit writer, Rose! So, I think it is you've engaged everyone and gotten them so interested that they are REALLY paying attention to the story. I know I am! :-D
Nah, Rose, I'd say just the opposite. From my perspective, we get to know these people, know them well enough that, like people IRL, that we can imagine how they'll react, and what they might say. I don't see anything telegraphed; just imagine what might happen. You read these comments, you know that some are right, and others wrong, just like always. I think that right now, we're with some people we know pretty well, and in a situation that we can relate to.
It is probably an indication of how well defined the personalities of the characters are defined, plus how well each character sticks with their personality. I can't imagine how you guys can keep each character so true to their own ways.
Consistent character personalities plus some serious psychoanalyzing of characters in the comments seems to have hit on a formula for discussions to follow and in some cases foretell parts of the story line when it focuses on character interaction without the high action drama we saw in New Rome.
Just about anything looks good on Dolly, sigpig. CentComm does a great job in making her look great. The glasses were nice, but she really doesn't need them in here right now. Maybe she'll get somewhere they make sense again.
Well, perhaps it's just an illusion: but on the current model, her eyes seem to be located abnormally high for a human face. It makes her look pretty strange IMHO -- kinda like a chimp or something...
I think it's an illusion; her bangs are pretty long. If you go by the overall shape of her head, they look OK. She doesn't have a really tall/flat forehead. Her hairline should be about where the silver part of her hair starts.
I wouldn't disagree in the least. I've actually considered making a motion comic out both LunaStar and DataChasers. Problem being I don't have the time or the available voice talent to do so.
Now, bodyguard work on the other hand!
I would also argue that she is actually in a good position to mediate the discussion between Lynn and her mother; she knows both of them well, they are comfortable with her, and she already knows she might tend to want to stop the conflict and guard against that. With or without the psych tech, Dolly should be there. She is as much a part of the discussion as anyone, if not in mediation, then as a participant.
If Dolly were to participate, she says she would be trying to get the conflict to stop. She is correct that she is NOT unbiased nor neutral. The problem with that is that it wouldn't allow them to clean out the emotional wound and truly allow it to heal.
Clearly her new brain *is* smart enough, so now we get to see some progress.
Dolly is a smart cookie now. :)
I wonder if it was simply that Dolly didn't have something, some kind of lever, to keep Calliope out of her shell long enough to address the problem. Calliope indicated that Dolly had tried to talk to her, but she hadn't listened. Right now Calliope is out and exposed, Dolly doesn't sound like she is going to let her crawl back into her shell (bottle).
Chances are good that she might initially add some confusion, but (IMO) she would add a dimension of perspective that might otherwise be hard to obtain. I think her love and commitment, and insight would be beneficial to the discussion. True, she is not unbiased, but that shouldn't preclude her from the discussion, although it advocates for the psych tech to be present.
Interestingly, this situation does seem to argue for the assertion that Dolly has had a paradigm shift. Whether it is because of the new body, or because of experience, she is no longer content to sit idly by and allow Calliope to fall back into her stupor.
Frankly, I think Dolly has been through too much shit, and has decided that enough is enough - Shit has to happen !
Though she'd be too polite, to ever say "shit". :D
Dolly's concern was for Lynn's personal safety, and as the entire story thus far has demonstrated, Dolly wasn't wrong to be worried about that.
Game is perhaps not the most apt word...
Seriously that would be hilarious, but dolly has a point it needs to be anyone but her!
The sweariest counselor of all.
She may be part of it as another participant later on in the progress.
But to begin with, she'd just muddle the issues even more.
"psyche-techs" over the past few years, one thing I know is that you have to relive the emotions that are at the root of the problem. As a protector, Dolly would want to shield Lynn and Callie from that pain/anger/whatever, and that would adversely affect the therapy.
an as Stormwind13 sed: Dolly would be counterproductive, you need a UNbiased third party..
Though that may not work well with Callie's history with Cent. It is also possible that Cent may not be able to be neutral as well. She did the same thing Dolly did.
Unless she can shoot someones head off with a chaingun.
Though Centcomm *did* have a go at it, with an AI spike aimed at Aeneas.
Centcomm is not as complicated, as many thinks she is.
Frankly, she's rather straight forward, in many ways.
I've never been to Phoenix, but I've been to hell and back. Yeah, yeah. That's it.
... they kicked me out. :(
Not quite sure which was about me, but I was having fun burying stuff all over the place. :)
But yeah, I know what you mean.
Dolly's all like; yeah, no.
Calliope: Woe?
Dolly: No.
Perfect.
Dolly : Also, you two need to TALK! ... with a head tech.
Lynn : Don' wanna! *Wah* I want you babe!
Dolly : Nope! Go, go - head tech!
... and which ones you don't !
This one you got though. :)
And we're on a lucky streak . . . :D
We still get totally unexpected turns though: such as Acantha's question to Cent-Comm, which no one saw coming.
Consistent character personalities plus some serious psychoanalyzing of characters in the comments seems to have hit on a formula for discussions to follow and in some cases foretell parts of the story line when it focuses on character interaction without the high action drama we saw in New Rome.
I have doubts it would be helpful to lump it all together.
(I for my part still think glasses don't look good on anyone, ever.)
(Am I the only one who perceives it that way?...)
I don't see it as odd.
(And Luna Start)