Comic 1528 - Mothers and Daughters

19th Sep 2017, 9:00 PM
Mothers and Daughters
Average Rating: 5 (19 votes)

Author Notes:

Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 8:21 AM edit delete
As noted previously. My video card tried to kill itself by overheating. We are buying a new set of fans for it. However if anyone wants to help out ( in case we have to replace the entire freaking card, it would be very much appreciated. Like Seriously.

I Spent the last of my cash on a back up card. T_T But it is seven years old and cant even open my Daz save files.
Tokyo Rose 21st Sep 2017, 8:37 AM edit delete
Tokyo Rose
I'm covering the fan replacement kit. It's being shipped from China, and the "estimated delivery" date is (hold onto your fucking faces for this) October 11 2017 to (are you holding on?) November 15 2017.

This is why I hate ordering shit from China.

So yeah, we're gonna have another fucking hiatus tucked in here, since we have only one more page in the pipeline and that'll go up next week. We are sincerely sorry for screwing y'all repeatedly like this, without even buying dinner first.

If anybody has any requests for ways we can fill up the gaps, we will be happy to oblige to the best of our ability.
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megados 19th Sep 2017, 9:24 PM edit delete reply

As noted, (and directly observed) Great job on the hugs, especially their heads and hair! Their positions overall, look very natural. (The dialog flows naturally as well) You both deserve to take a bow!

CentComm seems to be looking warily in panel 4, still traumatized! :D
Ebonbolt 19th Sep 2017, 9:57 PM edit delete reply

And Cent doesn't even have to render the bows...
Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 8:21 AM edit delete reply

yes Cent is like a jumpy cat going.. Noooo I dont wanna be touched!
megados 20th Sep 2017, 2:42 PM edit delete reply

Yep, one of our cats is just like that. I'm trying to remember the room. Cent is probably trying to get to a far corner! :D
velvetsanity 22nd Sep 2017, 8:16 AM edit delete reply

I can't help thinking Cent's expression is something like "go away you evil hugging touchy-feely witch, preferably before you find out how I responded to the situation" LOL
Sheela 25th Sep 2017, 6:37 AM edit delete reply

I can just imagine the local network chatter before it happened :

Kadela (a white angel) : WARNING Centcomm, you have incoming!
Centcomm : What, soldiers ?
Kadela : Worse!
Cencomm : Combat Drones ?
Kadela : Worse!
Centcomm : Missiles ???
Centcomm : Meep! O_O
Kadela : You know what's gonna happen?
Centcomm : What ?
Kadela : She's gonna hug you !
Centcomm : No!
Kadela : And pinch your cheek!
Centcomm : Noo!
Kadela : And maybe even motorboat you!
Centcomm : No no no no!
Centcomm : .. wait, what?
Kadela : Oh shit, the door is about to open, here she comes !
Centcomm : Noooooooooo!
Athena : "HERE you all are!"
Kadela : Oh shit, she's wearing her splendid gown!
Centcomm : *huff* *huff* *huff*
Kadela : For the sake of the first circuit, Centcomm, DON'T MOVE! She may latch onto one of the others yet!
Athena : "Oh, it's so good to see my girls again!"
Lynn : "G-grandma?"
Dolly : "Athena?"
Calliope : "Mama?"
Athena : "Cent! Don't think that I would ignore you!"
Kadela : DOH!
Centcomm : Nuuuuhhhhh! ;_;
Kadela : HERE IT COMES !!!!
Centcomm : "Feel free to ignore me - ah. Never mind then."


megados 25th Sep 2017, 6:55 AM edit delete reply

*Note to self: megados must NOT drink fucking coffee while reading the comments!* XD

*puts tablet in tupperware filled with dry rice*

@Centcomm, please tell me this is canon! XD
Sheela 25th Sep 2017, 7:26 AM edit delete reply

She can't, she's too busy huffing into a virtual paperbag. :D

Edit : Oh, and I added a link, as a virtual expression of how CentComm felt at that moment. :D
guest 25th Sep 2017, 12:39 PM edit delete reply
THIS..!!! an one other comic,, is why i NEVER drink at the computer.!!! ore eat for that mater..
Sheela 25th Sep 2017, 4:53 PM edit delete reply

We aim to please - or hit - our guests, when they visit. :)
megados 25th Sep 2017, 7:30 PM edit delete reply

They would have to do something pretty egregiously horrible to get hit though. (I would hope) ;)
Sheela 25th Sep 2017, 7:43 PM edit delete reply

That would depend on my aim though.

... I'm getting better. :)
Centcomm 26th Sep 2017, 11:08 PM edit delete reply

Well done sheela.. well done.. Pats and gives tuna..
Sheela 27th Sep 2017, 4:45 AM edit delete reply

SCORE .. I got tuna. :D
cattservant 19th Sep 2017, 10:24 PM edit delete reply

Smoothing the social feathers.
Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 8:22 AM edit delete reply

yep and ruffling a few cybernetic ones
cattservant 20th Sep 2017, 4:43 PM edit delete reply

Emotional static makes the 'cat' bristle.
Rashala 19th Sep 2017, 11:39 PM edit delete reply

Centy fears the grandma hug.....and the granny cheek pinch that are coming!!!!
Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 8:22 AM edit delete reply

more than likely
mjkj 19th Sep 2017, 11:48 PM edit delete reply

Awwww... more hugs <3

...great job, Cent and Rose =D

Sheela 20th Sep 2017, 12:13 AM edit delete reply

Some day, they will make hair interact with not just solid bodies, but other hair as well.
I suspect Centcomm is just waiting for that day to come. :D
All the Pickles 20th Sep 2017, 1:03 AM edit delete reply

That would be amazing, but soft body physics is an extremely computation-intensive process. The way things are going I don't see it being reasonable for decades.
DizzasterJuice 20th Sep 2017, 2:37 AM edit delete reply

Daz and Poser do not use any collisions or physics like games do. Everything has to be posed by the artist, so any body to body contact, like a hug, is a ton of meticulous work. Even the most advanced games don't have collisions that interact with it's own body and there is no collisions for hair. So hair is always going to clip with today's technology.
That said, I appreciate Cent's posing work because she always does it spot on and very natural looking.
Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 8:22 AM edit delete reply

Agreed Dizz .. seriously agreed.

And thank you.. I love your work too!
Sheela 20th Sep 2017, 10:13 AM edit delete reply

Inverse kinematics and lifelike physics, will be one of the big areas in the next 10-20 years of development.

Heck, even John Carmack says so.
Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 1:48 PM edit delete reply

I actually turn of IK .. never used it due to issues it created.
Sheela 20th Sep 2017, 3:59 PM edit delete reply

Aye, it does need an awful lot of polishing.

But that's where stuff such as solid & Soft body interactions will come from.
guest 23rd Sep 2017, 8:17 AM edit delete reply
ohh its out there... ILM uses it.. but that is a billion dollar company..("300 10 gigabyte sever ports...) an hundreds of people..
sooo i order for Centcomm to even remotely run that she wood need a half a million dollar computer... on her income , dont think so...
antrik 23rd Sep 2017, 11:34 AM edit delete reply
They are doing animation, though.
Sheela 23rd Sep 2017, 2:54 PM edit delete reply

Yeah, big difference between animation and still images.

Even so, some nice hardware acceleration, and some more development of IK, so it comes as standard with everything, and it'll become much more useful.
megados 23rd Sep 2017, 4:34 PM edit delete reply

Sure there's a difference, but we've seen some animation that Cent was able to squeeze out of lesser equipment! Just sayin'
HiFranc 20th Sep 2017, 4:55 AM edit delete reply

I'm guessing that grandma will be a better for Lynn's mental health than the official psychologist.

She probably has access to information to confirm Lynn's perception of things.
Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 8:23 AM edit delete reply

more than likely .. good stuff coming up i promise
jas 20th Sep 2017, 5:55 AM edit delete reply

Another great page! This is a pure family page. Love it!
Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 8:23 AM edit delete reply

thank you Jas!
chk 20th Sep 2017, 8:13 AM edit delete reply

I think Grandma is better than all the head shrinking available.

Plus, those hugs are seriously nice.
Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 8:23 AM edit delete reply

yay thank you! "D
Ictuan 20th Sep 2017, 10:17 AM edit delete reply
To Cent's comments about hardware needs, I can attest that trying to do anything near high quality in Daz Studio takes some serious hardware, which equates to lots of dollars. Over the years I've seen a lot of good web comics come and go due to artist burnout, lack of time and/or lack of resources.

If you love this comic, and you probably do if you are reading the comments, please consider becoming a patron above (as I recently did) or just donating via Paypal below. If we help fund Datachasers, Cent will be able to hardware buy the hardware she needs and maybe with enough patrons Cent and Rose can spend less time trying to bring home the "bacon" and more of their time to this project. I'd hate to see yet another good independent webcomic get lost to the fiscal realities of the real world.
Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 1:47 PM edit delete reply

Thank you Ictuan..
Siren 20th Sep 2017, 12:04 PM edit delete reply
Wow. I know it's a lot of work to create interacting poses without clipping and keep it looking this natural.

You've done an excellent job setting the poses/camera angle such that the hair gives the illusion of responding to its spatial limitations without clipping. I don't think it's possible to do a better work than this as far as figure/hair interactivity goes.

(Especially since we Daz users have never been given our promised dynamic fabric emulation).
Centcomm 20th Sep 2017, 1:48 PM edit delete reply

blushes madly..
KarToon12 20th Sep 2017, 6:26 PM edit delete reply

Hugs always make everything better. :)
megados 20th Sep 2017, 6:40 PM edit delete reply

I don't think CentComm (the character) agrees. ;)

Everyone else seems to though! :D
Centcomm 21st Sep 2017, 1:26 PM edit delete reply

cent the person agrees with you Kartoon!
Gilrandir 21st Sep 2017, 7:34 AM edit delete reply
If a big problem with hair is clipping ... have you considered a salon! ^_^

Once again we see how Maxus and Setorius go the extra distance to help the world run more smoothly and harmoniously.

For those who have not previously encountered this bit of trivia: there was an annual Bald is Beautiful convention held in Morehead City, NC for a while.

And lastly, this bald man's retort: "In the beginning God created all men bald; later He became ashamed of some and covered them up with hair."
Gilrandir 21st Sep 2017, 8:50 AM edit delete reply
(Referring to @Tokyo Rose's author comment:)

When it comes to @Cent's equipment,
Patiently await the shipment.
But avoid a graphic reference,
Tasteful comment is the preference.

Burma Shave

(On subsequent review, I realized this might erroneously be taken as an indictment of @Tokyo Rose's colorful language. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth, as I enjoy her gift for ... raucous adjectives and active verbs. ^_^. However, it does add a delightful (to me) third and fourth level of meaning, so I'm leaving it in.)
DLKmusic 21st Sep 2017, 4:53 PM edit delete reply

So you're saying that TR should keep her comments "fucking tasteful" then?
Sheela 22nd Sep 2017, 4:41 AM edit delete reply

Tasteful .. like bacon!
megados 22nd Sep 2017, 7:54 AM edit delete reply

MMMmmm . . . Bacon!
guest 22nd Sep 2017, 9:05 AM edit delete reply
! BACON.!! i smell bacon..!!!
Sheela 22nd Sep 2017, 1:13 PM edit delete reply


Who's roasting Tokyo Rose this time ?
Marcus ? Mr Black ? Who ?
megados 21st Sep 2017, 12:22 PM edit delete reply

Ha, yeah, ordering from China is a crap-shoot. Sometimes it's amazingly fast, like 3 to 5 days fast (faster than than someone can get it to you domestically, a lot of the time), other times, yeah. A lot of it depends on what Customs does with it.

No need for apologies for stuff beyond your control. I can only speak for myself, but I don't think you owe anyone a dinner. :D Take whatever time you have to. Rose can give us more stick figure adventures!
Gilrandir 21st Sep 2017, 4:27 PM edit delete reply
It would probably be remiss of me to observe that the contents of Folder 401 are probably already fully rendered ... so I won't. ^_^
Haegan2005 21st Sep 2017, 7:04 PM edit delete reply

Likely in imaginative poses to.
Timotheus 21st Sep 2017, 11:18 PM edit delete reply

How about Data Chasers Mad Libs? Post one of the old deleted pages with numbers for the word balloons and let the viewers write their own dialog? It might be entertaining for a few days.
Centcomm 22nd Sep 2017, 1:38 AM edit delete reply

thats not a bad idea at all..
DLKmusic 24th Sep 2017, 11:56 AM edit delete reply

I'll second this idea! it sounds like fun!
megados 24th Sep 2017, 7:06 PM edit delete reply

Wait, . . . if I third DLKmusic's second, with two others previous, I'll be the fourth . . . o_O

*wanders off scratching his head*
Sheela 22nd Sep 2017, 4:42 AM edit delete reply

On a sidenote, what sort of graphics card do you actually use for DAZ work ?
velvetsanity 22nd Sep 2017, 8:20 AM edit delete reply

Any gaming graphics card will work with Daz. Obviously, the newer the card and more vram it has the better. And IIRC, Daz is optimized for nVidia. I propose we all chip in from $10-100 each (whatever we can afford), that will quickly add up to the cost of possibly a newer better card than the one they're trying to save!

Just sent a donation to start it off :D
megados 22nd Sep 2017, 9:39 AM edit delete reply

I have a little extra this month, so yeah :)
(Toward whatever)
Centcomm 22nd Sep 2017, 10:11 AM edit delete reply

thank you both~! I tried to send a thank you to you Mega but the email turned out bad.. :D And thank you Velvet!!
megados 22nd Sep 2017, 2:13 PM edit delete reply

You're welcome :)
velvetsanity 22nd Sep 2017, 2:35 PM edit delete reply

Not a problem. If we all chip in, you could afford a new upgraded video card and the one you're trying to save could serve as a backup once the fans arrive.

And remember, people, the better Cent's video card is, the more detail and more characters she can put in a scene (and the faster it renders!).
DLKmusic 22nd Sep 2017, 7:26 PM edit delete reply

Good Idea, Velvet, I'm in
Centcomm 25th Sep 2017, 11:58 AM edit delete reply

Again thank you all guys. so far we have about half of what it would cost to buy the exact replacement of the original board.
Oberoten 24th Sep 2017, 8:32 AM edit delete reply

Here is to faster render-times. (I'd have sent the Radeon X9 295 if the posting of it wouldn't cost so damn much... )
Oberoten 24th Sep 2017, 7:13 PM edit delete reply

Okay, dropped of a 20. Come on folks lets get Cent's computer back up and runing. :)
Centcomm 25th Sep 2017, 11:58 AM edit delete reply

Thank you Orberten!
chk 23rd Sep 2017, 9:42 AM edit delete reply

Yep. Me too. Hope it helps
Centcomm 25th Sep 2017, 11:58 AM edit delete reply

Thank you CHK HUGS!
knuut 23rd Sep 2017, 2:09 PM edit delete reply
I'm in
Centcomm 25th Sep 2017, 11:59 AM edit delete reply

Thanks Knuut
Sheela 25th Sep 2017, 12:05 PM edit delete reply

I .. I don't have any monies. :(
How far has they gotten you, is it any good ?
Are you any closer to being there ?
Are we there yet ? iz I a dedly sin?
Rashala 22nd Sep 2017, 11:48 PM edit delete reply

@tokyo rose & centcomm

I got a idea for a bit of filler. Teedee's mission report!!!

If you remember back when mister blacks cargo had some fun, tedee gave a report on what happened with her on illustrations, why not have her giving as mission report to her superiors with ada with teedee's illustrations illuminating whetthier dialogue report is giving.
mjkj 24th Sep 2017, 3:51 AM edit delete reply

Great idea, Rash +1
Karyl 25th Sep 2017, 6:52 AM edit delete reply
May you be as fortunate as I was! the last time I ordered something that shipped from China, it was here within a week.
Centcomm 25th Sep 2017, 11:57 AM edit delete reply

Well its been over a week... >_<
antrik 25th Sep 2017, 1:22 PM edit delete reply
Can someone explain why Datachasers seems to always get the highest TWC ranking when on hiatus?...
megados 25th Sep 2017, 2:32 PM edit delete reply

AFAIK, it's not technically on hiatus yet. There's a page yet to be posted, and then the pipe is empty. After that, I can only speak for myself, but I am perfectly OK with waiting until there's a little buffer built back up, so Cent and Rose aren't riding the ragged edge.
antrik 25th Sep 2017, 3:44 PM edit delete reply
You are right: "hiatus" isn't really the right word, as we still get updates at a lower frequency... That doesn't fundamentally change the mystery at hand, though :-)

(And for the record, I'm not complaining, just curious...)
megados 26th Sep 2017, 7:32 AM edit delete reply

I'unno . . . more people doing what they can during difficult times?
knuut 26th Sep 2017, 12:14 PM edit delete reply
Law of Unintended Consequences?
Centcomm 26th Sep 2017, 3:23 PM edit delete reply

Ive wondered the same thing.. >_< But it makes me happy!
CptKerion 26th Sep 2017, 12:32 AM edit delete reply
Some thoughts on filling the gaps with text based things:
Descriptions of Animal Life, its living habits, and such.
The daily life of a wastelander.
Lore on various other parts of the world.
megados 26th Sep 2017, 7:29 AM edit delete reply

AUSTRALIA! (Where even murderturds wouldn't go out alone)

Oberoten 26th Sep 2017, 3:35 PM edit delete reply

Since there has been strong hints and even open speech about this world being a playable one and there being character-sheets for some of our more beloved characters.

Perhaps you could show some of the system you use? :)
Centcomm 26th Sep 2017, 11:11 PM edit delete reply

Its the ICE - Spacemaster system. current edit. ( Version 2 ) i think.. its a old system but it has everything i needed at the time. and yes i do have character sheets for a lot of the characters.
Sheela 27th Sep 2017, 4:47 AM edit delete reply

Luckily, there's no Sheela sheets ... I can still beat the system !
megados 27th Sep 2017, 6:50 AM edit delete reply

Holds up newly rolled Sheela sheet, and points to it. :D

Trade for my shoe? ;D
Sheela 27th Sep 2017, 8:48 PM edit delete reply

I'm sorry, those kinda sheets don't really exists anymore, we only use datapads around here.
mjkj 26th Sep 2017, 9:56 AM edit delete reply

Hmm, what about some blog entries?
megados 26th Sep 2017, 1:34 PM edit delete reply

This is a good idea, too.
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