Comic 1538 - Autopsy Results

21st Nov 2017, 9:00 PM
Autopsy Results
Average Rating: 5 (13 votes)
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megados 21st Nov 2017, 9:14 PM edit delete reply

Maxus seems to be getting closer to that facepalm!

I wonder what Pedius was alluding to in questioning Setorius' findings.

Uh ohh! What just happened? Pedius is offline? Looks like the rioting isn't quite over.
Sheela 22nd Nov 2017, 3:29 AM edit delete reply

You can do much, but questioning Setorius' expertise, is probably one of the dumber choices you might make in life.
megados 22nd Nov 2017, 10:20 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, second-guessing a world class expert usually ends in tears.
Naldru 23rd Nov 2017, 6:20 PM edit delete reply
The only argument that I could see for Decimus still being alive is that the safeguards were supposed to kill everybody in the city if he died. Since the people are talking to each other, they are obviously still alive. Somebody is going to ask why, and they need to be able to provide a consistent message.

A reasonable question would have been how Setorius could be sure that the test wasn't spoofed, perhaps by placing cloned tissue in the remains. That would not be a criticism of Setorius, but merely deciding on what to say if there are questions. However, there are eyewitnesses in this case. In addition, there may have been pieces of the implants that would trigger the safeguards. There is also the fact that the safeguards were triggered before being interrupted.
Sheela 24th Nov 2017, 7:14 AM edit delete reply

Considering that all that was left was burned bones, he would have had to test bone marrow.
Something that ordinary androids do not have.
Dolly has something like it, but it was so unusual, that even Centcomm noticed it.
megados 24th Nov 2017, 10:44 AM edit delete reply

AFAIK, not many knew of the contingencies. Most of those who had, also had first hand evidence, or were in communication in some way or other with those who had, that they had been disabled. It spread pretty quickly that Doomsday had been called off.
Centcomm 26th Nov 2017, 1:33 AM edit delete reply

some of that is celebration with fire.. yes.. more fire.
Sheela 26th Nov 2017, 6:33 AM edit delete reply

Oh dear, are the hospitals on fire again ?
And yay, the rage party has turned into a rave-party. :)
megados 26th Nov 2017, 6:52 AM edit delete reply

Oh! I misinterpreted. I saw it as Pedius' feed dropping and defaulting to an outdoor cam.

I guess if you're a Nova Roman, you can never have too much fire! :D

Thanks, @Centcomm!
jamie59 21st Nov 2017, 9:15 PM edit delete reply

Lets start douchebag's not dead rumors.
Sheela 22nd Nov 2017, 3:32 AM edit delete reply

A gutter in a nearby bar, swears that he saw Dolly the Taylor Guardian stuff Decimus into a sewer, where he still is, surviving on scraps from the streets!
SeanR 23rd Nov 2017, 8:04 PM edit delete reply
...Leading to a city wide tradition of urinating into storm drains on the off-chance it might splash him.
megados 23rd Nov 2017, 9:18 PM edit delete reply

LOL! (I have got to quit drinking liquids while reading the comments)
Guest 22nd Nov 2017, 6:35 AM edit delete reply
I'm sure there are some that would love to, so in that respect having the senator ask about the validity of the testing is not such a bad idea. But it would help for Axinian to give a detailed reason for why a mis-read is near impossible. and not just a "because I said so".
Sheela 22nd Nov 2017, 8:16 AM edit delete reply

Actually, when a specialist in said specific field says "because I say so", questioning him, often ends up with you yourself looking rather dumb.

He's a specialist for a reason!
Guest 22nd Nov 2017, 10:54 AM edit delete reply
Nope if they are a specialist they should be able to support their reasons with a valid explanation. You as a non-specialist may not fully understand it but they can give one.
jamie59 22nd Nov 2017, 5:20 PM edit delete reply

I would Imagen any DNA found in an Android would be customized to a point that it is easily distinguished from Human.
Even though he won't very Human.
velvetsanity 22nd Nov 2017, 7:19 PM edit delete reply

Yep. 'Because I say so' is really 'you lack the knowledge to even begin to understand the first sentence of the explanation, much less have any more clue after I explain, and I’d rather not waste time attempting the impossible task of educating you in the middle of this conversation, because it would take FAR too long and there are more urgent matters to deal with.'
antrik 23rd Nov 2017, 3:23 PM edit delete reply
Even if you are fairly certain that they lack the knowledge, "because I say so" is still presumptuous. It's way better to just start explaining, and let them stop you when they realise that they can't make anything of it.

However, the situation here is quite a different one. Pedius didn't just ask for explanation: he actually called the identification into question, on obviously dumb grounds. Calling him out on it is perfectly appropriate.
DLKmusic 26th Nov 2017, 2:00 PM edit delete reply

Just because I love hearing myself talk, I would like to note that Setorius DID answer the question. There was 2 types of materials he had to separate. Android remains, and Human remains.
Since there is no DNA in the remains of an android, even one as sophisticated as Kali, by saying "Are you asking if I am unable to tell the difference between human and Android materials", he is answering the question, albeit in a Superior? Antagonistic? Pretentious? (searching for proper adjective here) tone, which is why he is the Snark-Meister General, and the rest of us are mere mortals!
megados 27th Nov 2017, 3:29 PM edit delete reply

Hmm, I might go along with 'superior', maybe 'smug', or 'condescending'. He's not so much trying to antagonize, nor is he trying to give the impression he is something he's not. I'm not sure what you're going for here . . . JMO

Beyond that, I don't know what you sound like when you talk, I have only ever seen stuff you type! :D
DLKmusic 27th Nov 2017, 4:07 PM edit delete reply

lol, megados, Smug and Condescending work well for me! Maybe our local wordsmith has a good word to imply both!

Maybe we could make an adjective out of his name?

"He's right, but he doesn't have to be so Axinianish about it!"
Sheela 28th Nov 2017, 6:08 AM edit delete reply

You mean a snob ?
antrik 28th Nov 2017, 9:20 AM edit delete reply
Current fashion is just to use it as an adjective verbatim, i.e. "[...] he doesn't have to be so Axinian about it!"
megados 28th Nov 2017, 9:46 AM edit delete reply

Or maybe just, " . . . doesn't have to be so Axinine . . ."

DLKmusic 21st Nov 2017, 9:29 PM edit delete reply

OK, going completely off topic here... Who is Catherine?

(and "Eye Candy for our readers", although technically accurate, doesn't answer the question!)
Tokyo Rose 22nd Nov 2017, 12:25 AM edit delete reply

. . . Catherine? Throw me a bone here.
Timotheus 22nd Nov 2017, 1:27 AM edit delete reply

Maybe she's related to Naomi?
DLKmusic 22nd Nov 2017, 1:28 AM edit delete reply

@Rose: I was referring to the vote incentive. She's beautiful, but who is she?

edit: I doublechecked the vote incentive, and it's Katherine, with a "K". But I still want to know who she is, lol!
Tokyo Rose 22nd Nov 2017, 3:28 AM edit delete reply

OH! I didn't realize Cent had put it up already. Heh. As Cent's note indicates, that's the leader of Damnatio Memoriae without her holo-mask. :D
Sheela 22nd Nov 2017, 3:32 AM edit delete reply

They have a pretty leader. :)
DLKmusic 22nd Nov 2017, 11:27 PM edit delete reply

Heh, I'm so used to just voting, that I didn't even see the note!
guest1 23rd Nov 2017, 8:13 AM edit delete reply
i wood say the one on the chaise lounge..
"Catherine".. second panel,, 1st screen bottom row...
Ictuan 22nd Nov 2017, 2:50 PM edit delete reply
Yay! A new vote incentive. I was so tired of seeing the previous one every time I voted.
megados 22nd Nov 2017, 5:32 AM edit delete reply

Cool! AKA 'Rowdy Raccoon'?
chk 22nd Nov 2017, 8:39 AM edit delete reply

I was wondering about that too. Nice pic.
Guest 21st Nov 2017, 10:14 PM edit delete reply
I find it slightly amusing that the senator named Pedius just put his foot in his mouth. Also, there's a Calavius, is there a Hobbes too?
Guest 22nd Nov 2017, 8:16 AM edit delete reply
You really need to get Senator Hobbulus's name right.
Just_IDD 23rd Nov 2017, 5:14 PM edit delete reply
I'm certain I did not...
cattservant 21st Nov 2017, 10:51 PM edit delete reply

Sheela 22nd Nov 2017, 3:27 AM edit delete reply

mjkj 22nd Nov 2017, 12:08 AM edit delete reply

Oh, trying to undrmine Maxus - and Setorius...

*lol* Setorius' answer =) getting dangerous there...

...oh, and that one female senator really is beautiful... <3

Wow, great vote incentive, thank you, Cent <3
Guest 22nd Nov 2017, 12:31 AM edit delete reply
Any bets that Maxus will be counting down the hours remaining in his regency before this meeting is over? (Of course, I don't think it's even technically started...)
Sheela 22nd Nov 2017, 3:35 AM edit delete reply

Maxus just wants to go back to commanding troops.
Dumb as troops may be, at least they don't actively undermine his command!
xpacetrue 22nd Nov 2017, 12:54 AM edit delete reply

Is it safe to assume the huge crowd of people on the screen in the lower right corner, at night, are using torches and/or bonfires to celebrate the death of Prince Douchebag? :D Or, are they still rioting? Maybe a bit of both?
Sheela 22nd Nov 2017, 3:36 AM edit delete reply

The Rage-Party has turned into a Rave-Party? :)
Rashala 22nd Nov 2017, 1:12 AM edit delete reply

Yeeeaah facepalm evident.

Also a question that's been nagging me, in the DC universe here how are the dead handled? I mean are there cemeteries for humans and air remain? Markers or anything where relatives and love ones can pay respects?

And how does it differ from place to place ex; in nova Roma and new troy or the wastes?
Tokyo Rose 22nd Nov 2017, 3:33 AM edit delete reply

There's no universal guideline. In New Rome, though, the most common method is cremation, followed by interment of the ashes in a family columbarium.
Sheela 22nd Nov 2017, 3:38 AM edit delete reply

The bigger and more dense a city becomes, the more it will have to rely on cremation.
This holds true, even for mega cities of today.
antrik 22nd Nov 2017, 2:58 PM edit delete reply
@Sheela I don't think this is entirely true. As far as I can tell, it seems to be a cultural thing mostly. In Poland for example, cremation is rather uncommon. On the other hand -- at least in Warsaw -- it's normal to have several family members in the same grave (at different levels) -- so density is not actually significantly worse than in a typical urn field...

Also note that a city needs a certain percentage of green areas anyway to be liveable -- so more cemeteries only take away from parks, not from building space...
Sheela 23rd Nov 2017, 4:57 AM edit delete reply

It's true, you can stack the corpses and such.

But compare to a small city in a rural area, like, say the one my mom lives in - It has only about 15k citizens, and they don't even have a crematorium as a courtesy - They only have graveyards there, because the ground is so much cheaper.
Centcomm 22nd Nov 2017, 7:03 AM edit delete reply

New Troy has different procedures.. MOST of the time it involves reclaiming all tissues that can be harvested for genetic or for transplant. Water and chemical harvesting leaves very little actual body.

whats left after that can be compressed down to a diamond or other hardened material and a small memorial icon is left.

As Rose said Rome Generally follows cremation and ashes interment. Other city's and towns have different procedures. Troy also has " Ash Sector. " For memorials or for important people. SOMETIMES body are embalmed and placed within such as Lynn father. Or a holo-grave can be created.
Rashala 23rd Nov 2017, 12:18 AM edit delete reply

That explains organics.....what about air and androids?

What funerary options procedures do the get?
chk 22nd Nov 2017, 8:43 AM edit delete reply

He is already cremated. That should save some time.
megados 22nd Nov 2017, 10:16 AM edit delete reply

It would have saved time, but now they have to sort out Dec's molecules from Kali's. >_<
Timotheus 22nd Nov 2017, 1:31 AM edit delete reply

Admittedly, the question as to the identification of a charred beyond recognition corpse as the former ruler is an important point to have verified, so some slack can be allowed here. But not an excessive amount.
Sheela 22nd Nov 2017, 3:39 AM edit delete reply

With Setorius, there is no slack!
megados 22nd Nov 2017, 6:30 AM edit delete reply

Politicians have always questioned scientists' findings. Nothing new there.
Hornet 23rd Nov 2017, 2:43 PM edit delete reply
Actually just about everyone questions Scientific findings. And in truth its a good thing too. As the only way to prove those findings is to have them stand up in face of such questions.
antrik 23rd Nov 2017, 3:32 PM edit delete reply
Yes, scientific findings can and should be questioned on well-founded doubts, by others having some understanding in the field -- usually other scientists. But not by laymen out of ignorance, or following some agenda. That's just retarded.
Deoxy 28th Nov 2017, 10:34 AM edit delete reply
Everyone always has an agenda (scientist and layperson alike), and laypeople questioning is absolutely required, or you have a class of people that rule unquestioned.
antrik 28th Nov 2017, 3:29 PM edit delete reply
Eh, as far as I can tell, most scientists do not seem to have much of an agenda beyond "I want to figure things out", along with a bit of "I want to show everyone that I'm right"...

(Their employers likely have more of a specific agenda -- but that's an entirely different story :-) )

I wonder whether "laymen" was a bad choice of words. I didn't mean to say that only certified specialists are allowed to question things -- indeed I believe the opposite. Nevertheless, questioning things is only valid if you have enough understanding of the field to actually discuss issues in a meaningful way -- rather than just questioning things arbitrarily from a position of complete ignorance.
chk 22nd Nov 2017, 8:47 AM edit delete reply

Hey. I just noticed that the top center screen is Centcomm's old avatar. Cool.
DLKmusic 22nd Nov 2017, 9:58 AM edit delete reply

I was wondering why it looked so familiar!
megados 22nd Nov 2017, 10:09 AM edit delete reply

Wow, now I feel kinda dense. Cool!
velvetsanity 22nd Nov 2017, 9:12 AM edit delete reply

Hmmm....what's Pedius' next line after that final 'uh-'? :D
(How crazy can the guesses get? :D)

" mean Decimus was actually an android? See, *this* is why we can’t let androids roam free in our city!"
megados 22nd Nov 2017, 12:20 PM edit delete reply

"Uh - hang on. My vid-comm is on fire! Damn rioters!"
chk 22nd Nov 2017, 3:31 PM edit delete reply

"Uh - No . . . That's not it . . . Anybody can tell that . . . Um, I mean an expert like you can easily tell the difference . . . Yeah, yeah . . . That's what I meant . . . Cause you're good . . . . . the best . . . Yep, yep, yep . . . It's all good."
Guest 22nd Nov 2017, 11:19 AM edit delete reply
Questioning Setorius' competence? Pedius' days are numbered.

From what we know of the science of Data chasers, there seems no reason to believe it would be difficult for an expert to verify a human's remains versus an older model android. But no assassination is complete without a couple conspiracy theories.
Guest 22nd Nov 2017, 11:47 AM edit delete reply
There's always one isn't there? While I like Setorius as a character, I wouldn't want him as my doctor and I definitely wouldn't want to piss him off. Keep digging Pedius.
DLKmusic 22nd Nov 2017, 8:11 PM edit delete reply

Setorius actually has a better bedside manner than my Urologist, and is a damn sight smarter, so I wouldn't mind being his patient!

Although, I probably shouldn't make a habit of arguing his medical advice....
Guest 22nd Nov 2017, 11:58 AM edit delete reply
The Lady Katherine is truly stunning . . .
still wondering (OK hoping) if a "bikini contest" is in the offing for Dolly vs Ada?
Perhaps as a Holiday Gift?
guest1 23rd Nov 2017, 8:15 AM edit delete reply
happy thanksgiving.! those that celebrate it..
megados 23rd Nov 2017, 11:12 AM edit delete reply

Happy Thanksgiving!
Rms2000 1st Feb 2018, 7:45 PM edit delete reply
Are the top middle and top left screens on screensaver? they seem to be pretty inconsistent about showing the same characters.
Centcomm 4th Feb 2018, 8:29 PM edit delete reply

Yep they are static images
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