Comic 1561 - Squished

17th Apr 2018, 9:00 PM
Average Rating: 5 (17 votes)
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megados 17th Apr 2018, 9:32 PM edit delete reply

Okay, I read the Alt Text first. It didn't quite prepare me LOL. Upgrade to copper foil at least! Funny thing is, her conspiracy theory fits. :D

Aside from that, Jordan must have some skillz to work around the self destruct on the inhibitor without getting blown up! She must have worked with internal inhibitors before.

Still, it's in their (and Ophelia's) best interests to get her fixed up, get their credits, and be on their way. What could possibly go wrong? >_<
robnot 17th Apr 2018, 9:45 PM edit delete reply
uh oh... jus thought of this... built in ,, plug an play... the new body wont have a inhibitor.. how will that go over in New Rome.??

an upgrade.. Faraday Cage all the way....
megados 17th Apr 2018, 9:48 PM edit delete reply

Centcomm said a while back that the inhibitor is in the brain case with the synth brain. She still has the inhibitor I think.
Just_IDD 17th Apr 2018, 11:10 PM edit delete reply
@megdos yep right up until the do the bod-swap. Then the old inhibitor will be with the old synth brain in the old body. That's what @Robnot was referencing.
megados 18th Apr 2018, 5:04 AM edit delete reply

"@megdos yep right up until the do the bod-swap. Then the old inhibitor will be with the old synth brain in the old body. That's what @Robnot was referencing."

My impression was that they were going to put Ophelia's head on a different body, or transplant her entire brain/brain case. I don't think they have a Q-drive or any of the necessary upload download equipment there. Also, (I don't remember the exact page) but saving to a Q-drive was described as destructive to the synth brain. So if they got a used body, the synth brain in it would be toast anyway, I think.
Centcomm 18th Apr 2018, 6:22 AM edit delete reply

they are moving the brain case. brain and all contents - including the inhibitor. so yes she will still have it.
robnot 18th Apr 2018, 8:05 AM edit delete reply
yay.! cuz i hate to think what they wood to "Feelie" when she got back without the inhibitor ,,.
xpacetrue 17th Apr 2018, 11:49 PM edit delete reply

Sorry, but associating conspiracy theory advocates with tin-foil hats is such a terribly over-used stereotype that I'd argue that such no longer qualifies as a meme. It's just so ancient and worn out at this point that I'm surprised more people aren't tired of hearing it.

Actually, it reminds me of how tired and worn out a lot of other derogatory terms have become in recent years, like describing people as "racist" or "sexist" or "Nazis". I'm also reminded of how there are a number of other words that people have been overusing or even using wrong, such as "literally" or "ironic".
megados 18th Apr 2018, 5:23 AM edit delete reply

"Sorry, but associating conspiracy theory advocates with tin-foil hats is such a terribly over-used stereotype that I'd argue that such no longer qualifies as a meme."

"Tin foil hats" is one that's been around so long, that it's lost it's original meaning. (robnot alluded to it above) It was once used to describe a specific conspiracy theory, but is now a blanket descriptor of conspiracy theories in general. It now kind of fits in with the misuse of terms you mention.

There are so many things one gets tired of hearing, that it could be a meme unto itself, or several, if one chooses to categorize. :D
Kitty 18th Apr 2018, 2:48 PM edit delete reply
Actually I'm a lot more tired of hearing the term "tinfoil" when foil hasn't been made of tin for decades.

As for "racist," "sexist" and "Nazi" - if the shoe fits...
Speedy Marsh 23rd Apr 2018, 10:56 PM edit delete reply
There's a reason that tin hat types tend to be reclusive and antisocial. It's because it's not their minds that they've lost... ;)
antrik 18th Apr 2018, 9:32 AM edit delete reply
@megados ah, that brings up an all-important question though: are copper foil hats really more effective that tin foil hats?... ;-)
megados 18th Apr 2018, 1:00 PM edit delete reply

For the basic application? No, probably not. However it is arguably easier to solder into more interesting, exotic, and fashionable shapes! However if one practices Origami, that advantage can be rendered moot. XD
xpacetrue 18th Apr 2018, 10:10 PM edit delete reply

After some searching on the subject of "tin foil" vs "aluminum foil", this article caught my eye:

"Tin Foil Hats Actually Make it Easier for the Government to Track Your Thoughts"

Apparently, quote, "...a group of MIT students, prodded by 'a desire to play with some expensive equipment,' tested the effectiveness of foil helmets at blocking various radio frequencies." They approached the problem scientifically. And, ironically, while foil hats shielded wearers from most of the electromagnetic spectrum tested, their results showed it actually amplified frequencies that are associated with the tin foil hat conspiracy, such as those allocated for mobile phones, broadcast satellites and space-to-Earth satellites.

The students involved made some tongue-in-cheek conclusions about their results...
megados 19th Apr 2018, 6:16 AM edit delete reply

That's interesting, but, I guess, not unexpected. To be honest, I never gave it a lot of thought, but now that you've brought it up, it makes sense. The shape is more like that of a waveguide, or parabolic (well curved anyway) reflector, than a Faraday cage, because it is not an enclosed shield. The cross-section dimension would indicate a range of wavelengths it would or could concentrate.
DLKmusic 21st Apr 2018, 5:45 PM edit delete reply

Would everyone PLEASE stop making fun of my hat?

(and remember children, just because you're paranoid, it doesn't necessarily mean that they really aren't out to get you!)
Rashala 18th Apr 2018, 12:01 AM edit delete reply

Also maximum needs that Intel on mister exterminate soooo
HiFranc 18th Apr 2018, 12:59 AM edit delete reply

I wonder if Ophelia would tell them the what actually happened. If she does, how will they take the news?

Maybe, if their battle bot is any good, they could get a permanent contract to repair, or even design, Cassians.
Hans 18th Apr 2018, 1:26 AM edit delete reply
Ophelia might not know what actually happened. If she was in the field and information given out on a "need to know" basis.
She will know a bit more than miss conspiracy here. But is it in her best interest to tell them?
Centcomm 18th Apr 2018, 6:23 AM edit delete reply

maybe! and its above her pay grade.
Sheela 18th Apr 2018, 3:18 PM edit delete reply

Never tell your soldier anything they don't need, and if you think there's the slightest chance of them getting caught, feed them at least a little bit of false information.

you can set up some *epic* ambushes that way !
megados 18th Apr 2018, 5:35 PM edit delete reply

"Maybe, if their battle bot is any good, they could get a permanent contract to repair, or even design, Cassians."

If they have the skills, that's one thing, but the Cassians are high level security officials, so anyone having anything to do with their well being would have to pass some pretty high security checks, to get proper clearance, I would think. If they can get clearance they might be able to. ;)
Sheela 20th Apr 2018, 7:01 AM edit delete reply

If they could get that sort of clearance, they probably wouldn't be earning their money in robo-fights.
Kitch 20th Apr 2018, 12:42 PM edit delete reply
That might have been the case... before they picked up and saved the life of a Cassian. Things like that tend to buy friends.
Kitch 20th Apr 2018, 12:42 PM edit delete reply
That might have been the case... before they picked up and saved the life of a Cassian. Things like that tend to buy friends.
oldastronomer 18th Apr 2018, 1:30 AM edit delete reply
I never cease to be fascinated by the backstory. The view from the window is of a similar character to the scene going into the gutter base that was toasted. If strictly canon, then the girls hidey hole is not *too* far from that location. I repeat my earlier observation - the climate is well screwed. There has to be enough contact, either by face to face gossip, or by obfuscated comm link (not radio - thats trackable) to facilitate such chit-chat. Its an odd sort of society, connected enough to have a bush telegraph, but disconnected enough to have gutter/raiders etc, and v. little effective law enforcement. There must be enough agriculture or synth tanks to provide food, that are not subject to the ravages of gutters, and enough trade to distribute that food.
I also suspect that our two gals make some of their cash on betting on the outcome of the robo fights, as well as prize money. Some things really don't change!! %)).
Centcomm 18th Apr 2018, 6:21 AM edit delete reply

yes they do make money on the robo fights.
stormbringer77 19th Apr 2018, 10:49 PM edit delete reply

Kinda like a the beginning of a WWE Show-"ARE YOU READY FOR A ROBO-FIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!! :o
mjkj 18th Apr 2018, 2:01 AM edit delete reply

woah, I hope they get Ophie a nice new body...

...and the rumor mill is working overtime...
Centcomm 18th Apr 2018, 6:20 AM edit delete reply

we shall see!
Romfire 18th Apr 2018, 2:06 AM edit delete reply
Just a question about old android bodies. Whenever someone gets an upgrade, do new androids buy them as starter bodies?
It seems like that would really save on the body debt.
My "starter" home was build in 1917. We are still in it.
Centcomm 18th Apr 2018, 6:20 AM edit delete reply

Yes Android body can be refurbished for reuse. Some have alterable faces via the underpinnings other body have a locked face. SO it is possible to run into several androids with the same faces and or builds.
SeanR 18th Apr 2018, 7:33 AM edit delete reply
Hopefully they at least carry over their MAC address, so they're not misidentified on ping.

I can see it now. A socially maladjusted android arranges to purchase, second hand, the chassis of a rich android...then arrange for that second android to be forcefully decommissioned so the first android, wearing his old skin and network identifiers can clean out his accounts.
oldastronomer 19th Apr 2018, 2:26 AM edit delete reply
Androids seem to use their unique serial number as their formal name/ident. Dolly is still DOL-E224 after a hunormous upgrade; Ada and TeeDee retain their idents. Just the trailing suffix denoting levels of 'metal'/'meat' seems to change. A cast off chassis does not retain the ident - it would get the ident of the new 'personality'. In this case the trailing suffix might be the same. (At least that's the way I see it on my 6th reread of the comic!!).
Centcomm 19th Apr 2018, 2:57 PM edit delete reply

the ID of the brain is whats important. Not the body.
Sheela 20th Apr 2018, 7:04 AM edit delete reply

I suspect that there would be a fair few Model 3's around as salvage.
Kinda like how Connies old body would be refurbished after she "impulse" bought herself a Model 4.
Thracecius 20th Apr 2018, 4:31 PM edit delete reply
Thanks for the link, Sheela! I love Connie and that page reminded me just how much of a class act Mr. Black is, especially with the ladies. He could do a lot worse than to hook up with Connie. :)
Sheela 22nd Apr 2018, 2:35 AM edit delete reply

Connie is a sweetheart, and yes, she could do a lot worse, than hook up with Mr. Black. :)
KarToon12 20th Apr 2018, 5:18 PM edit delete reply

So I WAS right. "Squished" literally meant squished. XD
Morituri 21st Apr 2018, 9:57 AM edit delete reply
You realize that these people just confessed to murder in front of a Cassian. The last synth brain they had for their combat bot got 'squished' and they sort of feel inconvenienced and need another one. And they haven't been talking about anyone who had a choice about going into the fights.

A robot has a processor. A synth brain, if I've been reading right, refers to a sapient who just got killed in the ring.
megados 21st Apr 2018, 12:37 PM edit delete reply

If this were New Troy, then definitely. I imagine this is somewhere out in the wastes around New Rome, where people kill each other all the time. Would Ophelia even care? Also, androids aren't exactly loved in NR, plus, Ivy and Jordan just saved her life. She might not make that big of a deal of it.
antrik 21st Apr 2018, 1:41 PM edit delete reply
Not exactly: "brain-fucked" and "zombied" sound like they imply it's *not* sapient anymore I'd say?...

Well, that's what they claimed at least. Ophelia seemed sceptical about that, and apparently rightly so...
Tokyo Rose 21st Apr 2018, 7:50 PM edit delete reply

They didn't confess to murder (though even if they did, the average Cassian wouldn't care as long as the victim wasn't a Roma citizen). A synth-brain that's lost its higher functions can still be rigged to operate a body. From context, Ophelia assumes Ivy and Jordan salvaged a synth-brain that had no higher functions and used it in that fashion.
Sheela 22nd Apr 2018, 2:33 AM edit delete reply

Alternatively, it could have been a "live" synthbrain, who signed a waiver, so they could get into the ring with the other bots and wreak havok.

Heck, modern day boxers do it, why wouldn't androids ?
megados 22nd Apr 2018, 6:19 AM edit delete reply

Interesting question. In-universe, I have seen a lot of humans who would do just that, but not a single android. That leads me to believe that androids are more level-headed. About the only scenario I could think of, might be an android who was at, or approaching the 100 year mark/mandatory retirement and wanted to go out in style.
robnot 22nd Apr 2018, 7:07 AM edit delete reply
i can think of one.. "Teedee" .!
just to prove she has what it takes...
megados 23rd Apr 2018, 7:06 PM edit delete reply

@robnot, I stand corrected. :D
oldastronomer 22nd Apr 2018, 10:10 AM edit delete reply
Some time back Dolly remarked that where law got a bit ambiguous or pushed too hard at being able to survive in the Datachasers universe, you had to draw your own lines, and stick to them. Jordan and Ivy seem to have drawn the line at deliberately killing off a *sentient* entity. They are putting the Cassian in a workable chassis, in the expectation that they will get some sort of financial reward, on the word of that Cassian. NB. They are very familiar with the reputation of the Cassians. We'll see if they approach New Rome first - which would actually be the sane choice - then New Troy. I would expect New Troy firmly to decline any dealings anyway, and redirect enqueries to New Rome. One Cassian in NT (Noctis) even in full diplomatic mode would be quite enough!
robnot 24th Apr 2018, 9:35 AM edit delete reply
so i waited till last min..
no one commented on Jordan's "force belt"..
antrik 24th Apr 2018, 4:20 PM edit delete reply
Oh, I meant to comment on it, but totally forgot...

Seems to be the same model Commie's dolls are wearing, just different colour.

There has been a Word of God remark about it being a shield emitter -- but I'm not sure how serious it was...
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