Comic 1631 - Clearing the Site

29th Oct 2019, 9:00 PM
Clearing the Site
Average Rating: 5 (19 votes)

Author Notes:

Tokyo Rose 3rd Nov 2019, 7:35 PM edit delete
Tokyo Rose
Questions about Cyana's spinal condition and overall health will be answered in pages to come. Suffice to say that she's not going to fucking die or end up permanently paralyzed because Logrin picked her up. Thanks.
Centcomm 3rd Nov 2019, 10:35 PM edit delete
What Rose said.. and CPU in this case refers to the Central... Processing .. ( that's Brain.Memory core and personality core.") Unit..
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StLOrca 29th Oct 2019, 9:22 PM edit delete reply

Poor little Cyanna! You can rest now, sweetie; they’ll take good care of you.
Centcomm 30th Oct 2019, 12:09 AM edit delete reply

yep! :D
Evervigilant 30th Oct 2019, 12:51 AM edit delete reply
I'm glad he got to her in time. I"m curious though how her being moved and handled with what appears to be a serious spinal injury is going to go. Typically with that kind of injury the person is immobilized to try and prevent further damage. I understand he may not have had the time or wasn't able to determine she had that type of injury although her not being able to move would have been a big hint. Also glad Skeeter is still with us. Hope he comes back in a chassis worthy of him. Cyanna is really going to need Skeeter for support with her parents gone and everything she's been through. He's the only "family" she still has at the moment.
Sheela 30th Oct 2019, 6:28 AM edit delete reply

With future medicine and surgery, moving people with nerve damage may be less of an issue than it is today.
Oldarmourer 30th Oct 2019, 6:52 PM edit delete reply
We've seen some pretty small anti-grav units, like the one in her toy
So there's lots of room for one to be under her, supporting her completely plus making it easier for Logrin to carry her or even 'drop' her to hang in midair if he needs to use his weapons or do something else.
Siren 30th Oct 2019, 10:18 AM edit delete reply
I'd assume he either has the tech to check if she can be safely moved, and/or medical technology is advanced enough that they can repair her spinal damage (though that might require the medical facilities in New Troy or Sparta, which should be feasible after she's been stabilized).
megados 29th Oct 2019, 9:26 PM edit delete reply

Aww, cool! There's enough left of Skeeter to save! His Marvin persona fits him well here. As far as the Alt text goes, no one should have a day like that.

Now that the word is out about the Goldies, they won't have it so easy.

Hope is that Cyana can make a full recovery. Poor kid. Because no one should have a day like that . . . :(
me 29th Oct 2019, 10:10 PM edit delete reply
Not to be picky, but ...

Skeeter should have asked him to copy a backup of his persona and OS, not for the extraction of his CPU.
HiFranc 29th Oct 2019, 10:48 PM edit delete reply

Maybe it is different for him?
Centcomm 30th Oct 2019, 12:09 AM edit delete reply

CPU includes the memory and persona.. its a lingo thing.
Sheela 30th Oct 2019, 6:30 AM edit delete reply

Maybe change it to "main board" .. as that could easily have a CPU, a back up battery and some memory on it.

But then, lingo being what it is, maybe that is what he meant to begin with.
megados 30th Oct 2019, 6:43 AM edit delete reply

I can see where one might say that, @Sheela. On the other hand, I have an old Data General computer here whose "main board" is a CPU. No memory or anything else, just the logic chips and clocks that make up the processor. It's 15" square, and is only a 16 bit wide bus. There's also a ram board, an interface board, and a modem board, etc. Today's devices, have evolved quite a bit. The CPU is usually a single chip. I can easily see that in the DC universe set far into the future, the CPU can easily be a single chip or module that does the entirety of the computing, memory and long term storage. It could pretty plausibly house the entirety of what makes Skeeter Skeeter.
tooOldTech 30th Oct 2019, 8:38 AM edit delete reply
if it is the old nova, it only had a 15 bit address bus. I worked with the Computervision clone back in the day with a full 16 bit address bus :-)
jawbone 30th Oct 2019, 9:00 AM edit delete reply

[Data General] Nova? Eclipse? That latter epitomized "a bag on the side" if any machine did, especially compared to its contemporary, the VAX.

Nova vs. PDP-11 is another unfair comparison.
megados 30th Oct 2019, 9:30 AM edit delete reply

It's a Nova 3/12. TBH I had remembered it as being a 16 bit bus (and the address bus was the same). The Eclipse came out later, and was, if I remember right, their foray into 32 bit minicomputers. *edit: The "bag" comment, is one I remember; I first encountered it in reading "The Soul of a New Machine" which chronicled the development of the Eclipse. It was actually something that then-designer Wallach refused to do. ;)

One of the boards is the disk controller. I have the dual 10 meg disk drive that goes with it. One "cartridge" disk and one fixed disk, and a number of the removable disks. RDOS system, and Fortran language. Storage density is much improved since then! :D

It's all mounted in a 19" rack enclosure with power supply, and 2 Threshold 1000 voice recognition units. Those have remote neon display/interface units that display words as they are spoken. The whole thing is about the size and weight of a soda machine. There is a desktop terminal, and a couple of fanfold line printers as well.
Oldarmourer 30th Oct 2019, 10:16 AM edit delete reply
Sounds like a step up from my Atari 800, but does it have a 'Basic' cartridge for word processing ?
Samuel Bronson 30th Oct 2019, 9:44 AM edit delete reply
Maybe he's rocking a System on a Chip (SoC) that combines CPU, RAM, non-volatile storage and more, all in one compact package.
Siren 30th Oct 2019, 10:27 AM edit delete reply
Yeah, system on a chip (SoC) is what I would expect too. There are some laptops built on that now, so it doesn't stretch the imagination too much to think Skeeter might be built on one.
megados 30th Oct 2019, 10:31 AM edit delete reply

Yep, like Cent said, it's a matter of terminology, which might have changed quite a bit from today.
me 30th Oct 2019, 11:09 AM edit delete reply
After rethinking it: it makes perfect sense that some technically terms shifted their meaning quite significantly.

Especially considering that 20th/21st century vendors already are moving component into and out off what they sell as "CPUs".

So, why shouldn't it be some nicely sized, easy to remove, sturdy module type of thingy with everything on board that defines the "brain" of a robot.
chk 31st Oct 2019, 6:47 AM edit delete reply

Did nobody else notice the 'Marvin persona' reference?
megados 31st Oct 2019, 8:40 PM edit delete reply

Probably did, but we kinda got off on a tangent.
Sheela 1st Nov 2019, 12:11 AM edit delete reply

What I was thinking of, was something more similar to the old Pentium II's, just add a battery to them.

Essentially a small PCB with the processing unit, some memory and some batteries on it, and encased in plastic and cooling ribs.
It has the advantage of being standardized, while still being expandable/flexible. And it can be handled without having anti-static equipment.

Essentially, it would be a modern cartridge.

Yeah, I like the idea of it being a Cartridge, add some cool cooling ribs to one of those, and it could totally be a Skeeter Brain. 😁
For something to be used in a hostile environment, such as the wastelands, that would make a lot of sense.
It would need a little ruggedness, to survive there.
megados 1st Nov 2019, 6:28 AM edit delete reply

That makes sense, Sheela, and after the last page, with the EMP, it stands to reason the shielding would have been necessary, too. Metal Faraday cage encased in plastic for 'shock resistance'?

It goes to show the differences in terminology we use. Might just be me, but I'd call it a CPU module, or processor module, kind of like in a PLC system.
Oldarmourer 1st Nov 2019, 8:31 AM edit delete reply
Metal cage ? or a much tougher ceramic/plastic armoured case with conductive channels cast in ?
Or maybe just a surface conducting layer to let any EM fields pass over without stopping ?
Materials technology seems to have progressed just a tad in the next few thousand years...
megados 1st Nov 2019, 1:18 PM edit delete reply

A Faraday cage doesn't necessarily have to be mesh; it can be sheet metal, or a casting, etc, as long as it's fully enclosed. If it is a mesh or segmented cage of wire or rods or channels, there are specific rules as to the dimensions of the slots and segments. Any length of unintersected wire or or rod should be <1/4 λ of the shortest period expected interfering signal (or EMP), and conductivity must be sufficient to carry enough energy such that voltage drop across any section be less than the minimum breakdown voltage of the most sensitive circuit element (in the case of EMP). There are also similar constraints on aperture size. That's generally why most Faraday type shields are unbroken sheet metal. In consumer electronics, it's usually something like tin plated steel, and in more sensitive cases, copper, and where it really matters, gold or silver, due to their low resistance. That's today, but in the far future it could be some yet-to-be-discovered room temperature superconducting material. My opinion and FWIW, would be that it would likely use that sort of material, in unbroken planes, rather then mesh or segmented construction to avoid the whole wavelength dilemma. If mesh or rods or segments are used, it would tend to have to be of very small (fine) construction, which would be somewhat at odds with current capacity. If sheet material, or unbroken planes are used, that can be addressed much more simply by varying material thickness. :D
Oldarmourer 2nd Nov 2019, 10:07 AM edit delete reply
Yup, that's why I pondered on the viability of both...
one as a grid to allow specific wavelengths and the other a 'surface conducting layer' to block everything :)
Sheela 1st Nov 2019, 9:00 AM edit delete reply

Oh, I like the idea of adding a small faraday cage in the plastic.

As for the whole CPU thing, CPU is short for Central Processing Unit, and is generally only used for the main processing chip in a computer. Whereas a Cartridge, or a PLC are both more rugged units - Frankly, the main difference on the two, is that a PLC is usually bolted into the machine, and not meant to be removed, where as a Cartridge is meant to be removable.

A "processing module", would essentially be either a PLC, or a PLC cartridge.
The advantage to a Cartridge from an artistic standpoint, it that it would be easy to make an art asset that looks like a cartridge (small black boxy thing with some cooling fins and some electronic connectors), and it would make sense in a storytelling environment too.

I mean, wouldn't you make a small "black box" on a security robot as well?
Kinda like the black boxes on planes, but with the additional space for the AI as well ?

Curiously, airplane flight recorders (aka black boxes), aren't black at all, they are bright red. 🤣
Oldarmourer 1st Nov 2019, 10:46 AM edit delete reply
Having SKEETER's higher functions, memory and 'personality' in a removeable 'cartridge' makes complete sense and would likely even be a standard form of construction for non-androids.
He could easily be upgraded to a new and improved 'body' or one specifically tailored,armed and tweaked for the mission at hand.

There might even be a few spares, or at least older prototypes, stashed in the compound.
If the Feeliewhackers didn't get to them...
megados 1st Nov 2019, 1:36 PM edit delete reply

I completely agree. That technique is widely used in many systems even today. Replaceable/removable modules decrease downtime and increase efficiency.
Sheela 1st Nov 2019, 2:15 PM edit delete reply

Of course, now we just need it to be canon.
megados 1st Nov 2019, 8:04 PM edit delete reply

Near as I can tell, it already is, and in DC terms, it's called the CPU. :D

(☞゚ヮ゚)☞ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If I think about it another way, despite the current usage of today, such a module would contain everything needed to get the job done: data, programming, processing, and interface(s) to the outside. A true 'unit'.
Oldarmourer 2nd Nov 2019, 10:10 AM edit delete reply
That's why we swapped out boxes on the flightline whenever we could...
Instead of taking the whole A/C out for a day or two of troubleshooting, rewiring and reprogramming :)
megados 2nd Nov 2019, 10:23 AM edit delete reply

Large PLC systems are designed that way too. What's usually alternately called "processor", "processor module", "processor unit", and other similar names, contains processing, ROM, RAM, NVM, battery backup and bus interfacing all in one rack mounted module. Smaller systems often employ small self-contained PLCs, which also contain real-world I/O connectivity. It sounds to me like the difference here is that in DC universe, they call it CPU.

The distinction I was making, was that in the far future, it would very likely be much smaller, maybe only the size of an LSI IC of today.
Sheela 3rd Nov 2019, 2:56 AM edit delete reply

The question then becomes, is Skeeters brain standardized enough, that it could be put into Cyana's Starship Enterprise toy ?

I totally want a small enterprise spouting snarky and sarcastic comments at Star Trek nerds and gutters alike. 😁
robnot 3rd Nov 2019, 7:10 AM edit delete reply
size - - example, in history,, HHD = 1957, 3meg, about 5 feet square, weight 2000lbs,. 2019, 16 terabits, 2 inch square, 2oz,..
that was 60 years,, what could they do in the next 300.??
megados 3rd Nov 2019, 12:34 PM edit delete reply

That would be an awesome scenario, @Sheela! :D
Skeeter would insist on the phaser and photon torpedo upgrades!

@robnot, Yep that's what I was trying to say!
Sheela 3rd Nov 2019, 2:25 PM edit delete reply

I … don't think toys come with phasers .. nor torpedoes.

Though I think Cyana would be delighted with a play companion. 😊
Oldarmourer 4th Nov 2019, 9:08 AM edit delete reply
It would have been great if swapping out boxes fixed everything, it did work fairly often but unfortunately for us a lot of it was mechanical/hydraulic/pneumatic or physically broken wires/fused or blown circuit breakers/stuck, chattering or seized relays/solenoids etc. that needed to be removed, replaced and function tested. Add to that the part where you weren't allowed to splice any weapons release related wires and that could make what could be a simple fix into a tedious one, especially if the failed wire was in the wingfold bundle which was a bear to get at, or buried behind a bulkhead or stringer where whoever designed the placement of the connectors knew they wouldn't be the ones having to get at them and inevitably the wire you wanted was in the middle of a four inch mass of wires/coax/triax/cables/etc. In peacetime even just changing a box on a loaded A/C, even one with only drop tanks, meant a full functional/stray voltage check before return to service so the mission usually got scrubbed anyway...
megados 4th Nov 2019, 2:48 PM edit delete reply

With the processor units, it's very rare that the unit is faulty. There is a processor indicator, and a run indicator, and if both are green, the problem is elsewhere. In fact, problems don't usually occur in any of the racks. The most common problem that would occur in a rack is usually an output fuse or fusible link in one of the output modules, caused by an external short circuit in outlying wiring and/or components. Most of the time a problem is external. I've worked on things as you describe, where wiring and devices with common problems were almost inaccessible, and a person would have to do something like lay in an awkward position in an oil pan somewhere to get at it. In doing design work on systems, I try to keep that in mind, and try to make it easier as much as possible for the next guy, (or me if I am called upon to figure out a problem). Also, I have the luxury of connecting a laptop to the main processor, and I can "talk" to most of the sub-processors, and often can pinpoint problems that way.
Sheela 4th Nov 2019, 4:38 PM edit delete reply

Diagnostics systems are nice to have, the sooner you figure out where the fault is, the faster it can be fixed.

As for wires, some of the old lead telephone cables came with up to 3600 pairs, wrapped in paper, with two colors, red and blue (or red and "raw" paper, usually yellowish) … on all of the pairs … yeah, those are a bugger to work on. Lets just be happy for modern fiber optic cables.
megados 4th Nov 2019, 7:59 PM edit delete reply

That's . . . quite a mess 😨

Don't get 'em mixed up! :D
Centcomm 4th Nov 2019, 9:28 PM edit delete reply

i remember those!
Oldarmourer 5th Nov 2019, 12:21 PM edit delete reply

megados 5th Nov 2019, 2:19 PM edit delete reply

I've seen that; there was a documentary about guys that would run power taps for you, for a price. :D There was also one guy with some burnt-off fingers they talked to in it, as well as others.
Oldarmourer 5th Nov 2019, 3:02 PM edit delete reply
looks a lot like the fusebox did when we bought this house....
Centcomm 5th Nov 2019, 8:15 PM edit delete reply

megados 5th Nov 2019, 9:40 PM edit delete reply

At least they can still drive vehicles under it all!

Sheela 7th Nov 2019, 6:24 PM edit delete reply

The funny thing, is that at least half of all those wires, are completely unnecessary !
megados 7th Nov 2019, 7:26 PM edit delete reply

Absolutely true! With proper distribution I'd estimate that you could eliminate at least 3/4 of it! One transformer is visible there, and it looks like most of the wiring there is low (110/220) voltage. Using more and smaller transformers, and distributing even at low primary side voltage (2,300 4,200) much smaller wire could be used for main distribution, and much less in the form of the heavier 'drops'.
Speedy Marsh 12th Dec 2019, 2:00 PM edit delete reply
Like a Raspberry Pi.
Haegan2005 29th Oct 2019, 9:40 PM edit delete reply

Woot Skeeter!

And oh boy, that sunburn is going to hurt.
me 30th Oct 2019, 8:32 AM edit delete reply
Well, she has to be alive to be able to complain.

And that's probably more than she could've hoped for just an hour ago.
Mirta 29th Oct 2019, 10:13 PM edit delete reply
Does that dead end sign have blood on it?
Centcomm 30th Oct 2019, 12:08 AM edit delete reply

Sheela 30th Oct 2019, 6:30 AM edit delete reply

Somebody was beaten to death with a Dead End sign ?

… that's oddly appropriate. 😁
jawbone 30th Oct 2019, 9:05 AM edit delete reply

Wooo! I frequently have a bad case of dead end.
Johninaustin 29th Oct 2019, 10:34 PM edit delete reply
It's a very emphatic dead end sign.
Centcomm 30th Oct 2019, 12:08 AM edit delete reply

he really wants them to reconsider attacking his place.
Just_IDD 29th Oct 2019, 11:51 PM edit delete reply
Did Logrin upgrade his town to a city or something? Is this another bolthole entrance to miles of underground linked caves?

He had a Bunker before, now he has a silo home with inbuilt batcave entrance and probably integrated launch control.
Centcomm 30th Oct 2019, 12:08 AM edit delete reply

if you look back at the revised scene this is his new Bunker.. its a canon change. :D
Sheela 30th Oct 2019, 6:31 AM edit delete reply

I rather like the new digs … they fit the wasteland setting.
Oldarmourer 31st Oct 2019, 6:47 AM edit delete reply
ssooooo...does this make him a Rescue Ranger ?
Ebonbolt 4th Nov 2019, 4:26 PM edit delete reply

Potentially, but not affiliated with either Chip or Dale.
mjkj 30th Oct 2019, 12:23 AM edit delete reply

Yayy, Skeeter is alive!!! erm, still online or whatever...

...and I guess/hope his cpu has enough memory to store his personality and memory...

...poor Cyana *hugs her* - I hope Logrin can help her...

...indeed Logrin: you were in time - now go and revive her!!!
Sheela 30th Oct 2019, 6:33 AM edit delete reply

He could have a copy of the bulk of his memories in an offsite location, in case of damage.

That way his main board would only have to hold short term memory, and current work set data.
megados 30th Oct 2019, 6:50 AM edit delete reply

I think you're right, @mjkj. In the far future, things would probably be miniaturized enough to make that a reality. Just look at the gains in the last 50 or so years, and extend that for a thousand + more. ;)
mjkj 30th Oct 2019, 7:55 AM edit delete reply

Oh, yeah, and I think some of that medes gel should take care of the sunburn...?
megados 30th Oct 2019, 7:07 PM edit delete reply

Medical knowledge isn't really my forte, but there are remedies today which help with sunburn and burns in general, such as Solarcaine, and Unguentine, respectively. In the far future, I would think there is something. Medes gel could be one. I just hope her back injury is only something like a percussion trauma, and nothing is broken, and that it's not permanent.
Rashala 30th Oct 2019, 1:12 AM edit delete reply

Why do I think that was way too easy....... call me paranoid but I think they got company coming and not dolly for a checkup visit.
oldastronomer 30th Oct 2019, 4:58 AM edit delete reply
Apropos of this and that... I rather think that Logrin has enough diagnostic instruments to scan Cyana to check for injuries contra-indicating movement. Hence she has bruising and sunburn + dehydration and shock. Whether Logrin's bunker has enough facility to treat her in the longer term is a another matter. Recall that the NTSR doctor was stabilised, but transported to NT asap. Hence NT now knows about Logrin in rather more detail than perhaps he is happy with.
Because the family was the chief water supplier for a large area, there will be a lot of people potentially in the lurch. I suspect that there will be major efforts to get the water flowing again soon. Questions of inheritance will arise.
It isn't specified, but the presence of rangers, and their law enforcing efforts, as mentioned in passing in previous episodes, means that there is a body of civil and criminal legal code present in the wastes. I suspect that is rather difficult to enforce in such a huge landscape. I visited the McDonald Obsy thirty or more years ago, and the scale of the country was just awesome!
megados 31st Oct 2019, 2:43 PM edit delete reply

Interesting observations! Nice hypotheses.

Dr. Demark, I think, had injuries that required a proper hospital to address. We're not yet sure about how bad off Cyana really is. She may or may not need to be put in the hospital. An eventual visit might be good in any event, and the variable might just come down to how soon. My thought is that Ranger Logrin it fairly well known in New Troy, so he's probably not uncomfortable with their knowledge of him. I think it's more a matter of he mostly doesn't pester NT, and NT doesn't really pester him. They probably look at it as he's out here keeping a sort of order, which helps them as they don't have to keep as much of a presence outside the City. He could well contact NT, or get word out some other way. Besides, not much goes on W/O CentComm's notice. ;)

One such item, would in fact be the interruption in water distribution. There likely would be an increasing amount of comm chatter about it, so it won't likely go unnoticed for long. I'm not sure whether it's incumbent on NT to get it flowing, or a coalition of wastelanders, or some combination, but yes, it will need to be addressed.

Just my interpretation, but what passes for law and order in the wastes is sort of like the Old West in the US. It varies by area and local interpretation, and there are large areas where it's almost non-existent. The Rangers do their best, but they can only do so much.
Johninaustin 30th Oct 2019, 6:48 AM edit delete reply
I hope he checked her for trackers and embedded alien embryos.
mjkj 30th Oct 2019, 8:02 AM edit delete reply

Please keep voting

keep us at rank 4

...we are less than a hundred votes from rank 5 and less than two hundred form rank 6 - so, if they put in some effort we would drop like crazy...
megados 30th Oct 2019, 9:41 AM edit delete reply

Yes! Nearly at the end of the month, and we need to keep the momentum!
Oldarmourer 30th Oct 2019, 10:12 AM edit delete reply
Vote early, vote often, enlist your dead relatives to vote, it's the ********** way...
megados 30th Oct 2019, 11:36 AM edit delete reply

Blanking out the affiliation doesn't necessarily make it non-political. :D

The innuendo is there.
Rigor 30th Oct 2019, 2:27 PM edit delete reply
The innuendo is there, but the reader will likely assume the writer intended whatever affiliation the reader may have. Confirmation bias or something like that.
Centcomm 30th Oct 2019, 2:48 PM edit delete reply

Frowns.. throws a nerf hammer
Oldarmourer 30th Oct 2019, 6:48 PM edit delete reply
I was originally going to say "Nova Roma" but in the interests of peace and good will I changed it to Shakaga then blanked it entirely :P
That and the fact that it's such a generic meme now people should be used to hearing it...and it goes for all parties
megados 30th Oct 2019, 5:25 PM edit delete reply

"Vote early, vote often" is the ubiquitous meme. The innuendo is what follows.

Back on topic, DC is still 100 votes ahead of 5th at this time. :D
robnot 1st Nov 2019, 6:18 AM edit delete reply
as i sed before... 1st of the month don't count/care... TWC throws what they want in the top ten.. so maybe tomorrow ,, but no more than a week most (not all) will be back or close too where they were...
megados 1st Nov 2019, 6:32 AM edit delete reply

Yeah it's up in the air, but all the ones I see that are higher, have more votes too.
Thracecius 30th Oct 2019, 10:29 AM edit delete reply

Well, now at least I can finally stop holding my breath hoping that Cyanna lives. Looks like her future as BatCyanna is still possible! :D
Oldarmourer 30th Oct 2019, 6:50 PM edit delete reply
Well, her parents were struck down in front of her...
Pity the Feeliewhacker had blue eyes instead of green hair ;)
KarToon12 30th Oct 2019, 10:35 AM edit delete reply

At least there's some silver lining to all this.
mjkj 1st Nov 2019, 2:20 AM edit delete reply

seems like we made it on rank 4? :o
megados 1st Nov 2019, 6:31 AM edit delete reply

Lots of fluctuation. It was 14 when I came in this morning, and now 19. :(

Oldarmourer 1st Nov 2019, 8:49 AM edit delete reply

At 25 just now...doing my part to fix that :)
Odd thing I noticed voting by my 'favourites' list...
A couple that I know by the vote count I've been the only one voting for in the past six months
and usually around 750th or so, are right now in the top 100 before I voted...
Others that are consistently fairly high, in the top 150 or so, are in 12,000th place...

To quote a famous local character....
Sheela 1st Nov 2019, 9:53 AM edit delete reply

The first few days of a month are always quirky.
Oldarmourer 1st Nov 2019, 10:51 AM edit delete reply
True, butto see comics, even if they are deserving of more votes, suddenly go from zero to a bunch when I can clearly see that they've never been voted for before seems a little odd..I wonder if whoever's running the site looks at the frequency of votes in the past few days of the month to create the initial list and gives the ones they pick enough votes to put them there ?
Centcomm 1st Nov 2019, 12:10 PM edit delete reply

about every few months someone makes new bots and it takes a few weeks for them to get rid of them.
Thracecius 1st Nov 2019, 10:37 AM edit delete reply

Rank 13 to rank 11 after I voted. :)
megados 1st Nov 2019, 6:58 PM edit delete reply

8th as of right now. The one that got a bot boost last month has done so again, and it was in 1st, but now falling.

3rd Nov 2019, now in 5th, and would be 4th if the comic which is still using bot boosts was not.
Oldarmorer 4th Nov 2019, 9:11 AM edit delete reply
back to 5th...
5th/6th/7th seem to be pretty fluid right now, pretty narrow spread between them
so vote every day for every often as the site lets you
megados 5th Nov 2019, 7:19 PM edit delete reply

I think that Saffron comic is getting bolder with the bots. Each time it sinks out of 1st, another vote surge occurs.
Highlander 5th Nov 2019, 9:08 AM edit delete reply
@ Cent- (quote) What Rose said.. and CPU in this case refers to the Central... Processing .. ( that's Brain.Memory core and personality core.") Unit..(End Quote)

Or as my Fortran class used to say "Garbage In, Garbage Out".
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