Comic 1642 - Cutting to the Chase

21st Jan 2020, 9:00 PM
Cutting to the Chase
Average Rating: 5 (22 votes)

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Centcomm 22nd Jan 2020, 10:51 AM edit delete
Just a random bitch.. Amazon tech support.. its in India.. but they seem to know what they are doing. And can log into your tablet to fix things.. Neat!,

Netflix tech support.. Robots that Malfunction when you break the script. and ask "are you there?" and are still useless. Managers of same.. useless.

All this because netflix stopped working on my tablet.
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jamie59 21st Jan 2020, 9:11 PM edit delete reply

I like this. Called to the carpet for her sins.
Guest 21st Jan 2020, 10:41 PM edit delete reply
Truthfully they're both being called to task on it
jamie59 22nd Jan 2020, 1:04 AM edit delete reply

Not really. While Rose's plans were sneaky & underhanded. They were mostly bloodless.

While Cent is responsible for how many dead? Plus trying to make Aeneas a clone of herself!
megados 21st Jan 2020, 9:22 PM edit delete reply

CentComm doesn't know Rose is human? Interesting. ;)

. . . And Rose is all up in her grille, and even Ariel agrees. Loyola wants to tap the brakes a little, but Rose is having none of it. Great page and dialog!

*puts on some V/R goggles, walks over near Deep Blue and motions for some popcorn *
HiFranc 21st Jan 2020, 9:46 PM edit delete reply

It is a Japanese state secret. Even Aeneas didn’t know until recently. I doubt any of the AISs know (outside of Aeneas and the 3 treasures).
robnot 21st Jan 2020, 10:08 PM edit delete reply
and it has been said that TR has started a few rumors , an added fuel to few others... just so her real ID stays hidden...
Sheela 22nd Jan 2020, 2:16 AM edit delete reply

Hrm, I rather suspect that Deep Blue knows, but simply doesn't care … he knows a good deal more than he lets on.

I doubt Loyola knows, though Agamemnon might know, he seems to be friends with Rose.

And then there is Ariel, I bet she knows … somehow, some way, she would have weaseled out all secrets, either by tricks, friendly demeanor, or straight up spying .. she's almost like an ancient trickster god in my head canon, she knows all sorts of things that she's not supposed to know.

Centcomm might not know, but I bet that she suspects it.

The treasures knows, and so does Aeneas.
Did I miss any ?
DLKmusic 22nd Jan 2020, 11:32 AM edit delete reply

I can't tell if Ariel is intently listening and ready to take sides and jump in at any moment, or if she's just singing "Under the Sea" to herself while this is all going on!
megados 22nd Jan 2020, 12:03 PM edit delete reply

Ariel does comment off-screen, top right of panel 2. She managed to get a word in edgewise. :D
Morituri 22nd Jan 2020, 4:03 PM edit delete reply
What all of them know, in addition to anything else, is that Rose existed before any of them. So either Rose is the very first AIS to "wake up" or Rose is ... something else.

"Human" seems like the best candidate for "something else" because of the unique combination of sentience and sapience that wasn't available in any other packages back then.

But bearing in mind that that was A THOUSAND YEARS AGO "human" doesn't seem terribly likely, either.
Oldarmourer 22nd Jan 2020, 7:18 PM edit delete reply
At least she isn't being distracted by a starfish bra...
their mouths are in the middle of their undersides ;)
Morituri 22nd Jan 2020, 8:09 PM edit delete reply
Honestly, if we're talking about sex involving weird aquatic creatures, I have always admired the humble clam.

Those guys drill holes in rocks. With their tongues.
Sheela 24th Jan 2020, 8:04 AM edit delete reply

On a sidenote, I wonder what Aeneas will look like once he shows up ?
A wizard maybe ? 🀣

Centcomm 24th Jan 2020, 12:39 PM edit delete reply

ok thats awesome :D
Sheela 25th Jan 2020, 4:19 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, Aeneas needs a wizard outfit …
Centcomm, you know what to do! 😁
megados 24th Jan 2020, 3:11 PM edit delete reply

Cool !
HiFranc 21st Jan 2020, 9:39 PM edit delete reply

Is Rose going to let her feelings towards Aeneas make her indiscreet regarding what she is?

Also, did Rose go too far in the last panel?
robnot 21st Jan 2020, 10:19 PM edit delete reply
Rose is a lot smarter than that...
an Rose is not even going ,, yet ,, not nearly enough expletives.!!
not one F-bomb, nor a remark bout female anatomy , an then just one remark bout family linage..
Guest 21st Jan 2020, 10:41 PM edit delete reply
So far
DLKmusic 22nd Jan 2020, 11:34 AM edit delete reply

Gatta admit though, "Jumped up Adding machine"?

sigpig 22nd Jan 2020, 2:45 PM edit delete reply

Even better - adding machines are MECHANICAL and operated by a HUMAN (who could be prone to errors).
HiFranc 21st Jan 2020, 9:42 PM edit delete reply

Hopefully, the update means that you’re feeling better?
Centcomm 22nd Jan 2020, 10:45 AM edit delete reply

yeah im feeling a bit better..
megados 22nd Jan 2020, 12:06 PM edit delete reply

Nice to see you out and about!
Oberoten 24th Jan 2020, 10:56 PM edit delete reply

And this is truly the most important part.
StLOrca 21st Jan 2020, 9:54 PM edit delete reply

Okay, for the slow ones in class (that is, ME): who's the lamia in the last panel? I'm up to speed on everyone but her.
robnot 21st Jan 2020, 10:02 PM edit delete reply
Mermaid.. not lamia..
an she is the AIS of Denmark "Aerial."
Guest 21st Jan 2020, 10:40 PM edit delete reply
Actually it's Ariel like the mermaid
Sheela 22nd Jan 2020, 2:18 AM edit delete reply

Centcomm claims she's there because of us, the fans. 😁

Some of us may have included her as part of our fanfictions.
Next up, Feral Roses that roam Northern Siberia, become canon too!
Centcomm 22nd Jan 2020, 9:09 AM edit delete reply

Actually is is and i might have a fondness for Mermaids..
Sheela 23rd Jan 2020, 12:19 AM edit delete reply

… "is is" … ?
Centcomm 23rd Jan 2020, 6:18 AM edit delete reply

blah .. it is.. typing with out glasses.
Sheela 23rd Jan 2020, 6:39 PM edit delete reply

Good, good .. now we just have to figure out what "it" actually *is* ! πŸ˜‚
megados 23rd Jan 2020, 7:11 PM edit delete reply

I was always told, "It is what it is".

For the sake of science, I tried typing with my glasses and it didn't go so well, so I put them back on my nose, and went back to using my fingers.
Oldarmourer 23rd Jan 2020, 8:02 PM edit delete reply
which all depends on what the meaning of the word 'is', is... ;)
Sheela 24th Jan 2020, 6:50 AM edit delete reply

And here I was hoping that "it" was the Feral Roses roaming Siberia. 🀣

Imagine a horde or Tokyo Rose clones dressed up as "It" ?
Like, omg !

megados 24th Jan 2020, 3:09 PM edit delete reply

We really do learn something every day . . . today I learned that it's less of a disaster when I spew coffee on my tablet, than on my keyboard. XD
Sheela 27th Jan 2020, 10:29 PM edit delete reply

"You startled the Witch…"
Lurker314 22nd Jan 2020, 12:16 AM edit delete reply
I wonder if Rose understands Centcom's need for self-confident always-right? This could get REALLY ugly if Rose does not give her an out.
mjkj 22nd Jan 2020, 12:52 AM edit delete reply

Wow, Rose is really laying it on Cent...

Ariel really looks good.

@alt text: ...great idea, Big Blue...
SB01 22nd Jan 2020, 1:53 AM edit delete reply
When the heck mermaid came from ? :)
Sheela 22nd Jan 2020, 7:06 AM edit delete reply

She is new to the comic, first appearance only a few pages back.
Her name is Ariel, and is the AIS of old Denmark, and takes the avatar of Ariel the Mermaid.

Though she has been created from chats and fanfictions in the comments over the years - We don't officially know much of her .. yet. It shall be interesting to see just what she ends up becoming in the comic. 😁
Ictuan 22nd Jan 2020, 3:27 AM edit delete reply
This was the best popcorn dialog in ages. Can't wait to see where this leads.
MirrorField 22nd Jan 2020, 4:04 AM edit delete reply
That is one fascinating revelation. CentComm says that she'd have glassed New Rome if Decimus had attempted to use Lynn against her and that she can't allow such threats to exist.

The Question is what makes Lynn (or her mother) such a threat to CentComm? In normal course of events she'd simply write off the hostage, even if said hostage was some VIP. Which means Lynn presents some sort of vulnerability that CentComm cannot remove from herself. My bet is some sort of hardwired, hardware override left by Helios Taylor...

Oh, and thanks for the hint. Those golden cyborgs must be AM-COM remnants.
megados 22nd Jan 2020, 5:49 AM edit delete reply

The way I understood it, was that the Taylor DNA provides the "access key" to CentComm's systems.
Sheela 22nd Jan 2020, 7:12 AM edit delete reply

That was the rationale behind the whole kidnapping, at least.
To force Centcomm into giving up her weapons.
sigpig 22nd Jan 2020, 2:49 PM edit delete reply

Hence the "egg-harvesting incident" that "officially" never happened... Lol
Oldarmourer 23rd Jan 2020, 11:03 AM edit delete reply

There will be no speaking of 'poached' eggs here, Cent made it clear she prefers hers scrambled...and unfertilized ;)
Centcomm 26th Jan 2020, 10:14 PM edit delete reply

har har...Very funny guys
Tokyo Rose 24th Jan 2020, 11:10 PM edit delete reply

Thanks to the reboots, it canonically never, ever happened. HA.
megados 25th Jan 2020, 8:43 AM edit delete reply

It was just an old Legend; an old wives tale passed down from the "Before Times". ;)
Oldarmouer 27th Jan 2020, 2:50 PM edit delete reply
mass hysteria...rampant delusions...swamp gas...
Sheela 27th Jan 2020, 10:27 PM edit delete reply

Rodents of Unusual Sizes ... *loks in both directions* ... I hear they are tasty. 😁
Oldarmourer 28th Jan 2020, 5:43 AM edit delete reply
especially with poached eggs...
Gilrandir 22nd Jan 2020, 6:30 AM edit delete reply
The dynamic here is fascinating to me ... very multi-layered and intriguing.

I may be wrong, as I am usually quite poor at grasping the motivations of others. It seems that this is a convocation called by Tokyo Rose to censure CentComm for her attempt to subvert Aeneas -- presumably violating some A.I. detente protocols coming out of the Armistice Rebellion. However, CentComm (true to her nature as a military system) defends by, as soon as possible, going on the attack: making the case that Tokyo Rose contributed to, if did not cause, the situation in the first place.

CentComm's final barb, in particular, is lovely to me since it can be read two ways. In one interpretation, CentComm DOESN'T know Tokyo Rose was once human, and she is accusing her of the behavioral flaws of sentimentality most often exhibited by humans. In the other interpretation, CentComm DOES know, and is actually accusing Tokyo Rose of hypocrisy, pointing out that she (Tokyo Rose) is herself just as ruthless when pursuing HER agendas as she is accusing CentComm of being. That Tokyo Rose is only 'almost' as sentimental as a human, having lost touch with her own nature, while CentComm, at least, remains true to hers.

Lovely stuff. Kudos to the creative team.
Sheela 22nd Jan 2020, 7:10 AM edit delete reply

The sad thing, is that not sharing data with one another, seems almost like a crime, as it would take them less than a few real life minutes to do so, and she planned it for weeks.

She really should have touched base with the other AIS's before launching an attack on another city state. If nothing else than to say "I'm doing this - Shit is going down!"
Gilrandir 22nd Jan 2020, 7:15 AM edit delete reply
Information is power. They all work with each other. Nothing says they have to like each other ... or trust each other.
megados 22nd Jan 2020, 10:30 AM edit delete reply

. . . as it is in most 'workplaces'. :)

Certainly, the possibility exists that both CentComm, and Tokyo Rose bear some responsibility, and for the reasons you mention. I don't think it's necessarily a binary situation. The main difference between the two, is CentComm's relentless pragmatism. I agree, in that I don't think either trusts the other, such that no information was passed either way.

It's interesting that you bring up the possibility that CentComm does know of Tokyo Rose's being human. When I read CentComm's comment I automatically assumed she did not, but your alternate perspective does leave open the possibility that she knows.
Oldarmourer 27th Jan 2020, 2:52 PM edit delete reply
the sad part is when information that might keep people from getting hurt is so jealously guarded by layers of management, for reasons known only to themselves, that people end up getting hurt..and you have to watch it happen.
Oldarmourer 22nd Jan 2020, 7:01 AM edit delete reply
Trying to come up with a reasoned, erudite missive to address the multi-layered interpersonal conflict between the main AI protagonists...
Nope, too much like work... "CATFIGHT !!!!!!!"
Love the dialogue, it's past time for TR's graceful command of snark to shine brightly yet again :)
Thanks to both of you for a little linguistic levity.
Sheela 22nd Jan 2020, 7:11 AM edit delete reply

Catfight ?
… they're going to throw virtual cats at one another ?

That's so AWESOME!! 🀣
robnot 22nd Jan 2020, 9:11 AM edit delete reply
just as long as it is NOT Katya an Dusty.!!
Centcomm 22nd Jan 2020, 9:12 AM edit delete reply

rawr spitg hiss REEOW!
Antonious 22nd Jan 2020, 9:54 PM edit delete reply

Sheela 22nd Jan 2020, 7:14 AM edit delete reply

Hrm .. Jumped-up Adding machine ?

Was it Texas Instruments that built Centcomm ?
robnot 22nd Jan 2020, 8:13 AM edit delete reply
Raytheon: TI sold it's military electronics to Raytheon in 1997..
also just FYI, Raytheon is home based in Denver CO.!
megados 22nd Jan 2020, 8:22 AM edit delete reply

The plot thickens!
robnot 22nd Jan 2020, 9:09 AM edit delete reply
also.. for those not in the know..
Raytheon is a very big "private" military contractor ,, that sells missile systems, hardened electronic systems, "Cybersecurity",, and the techs to keep it running..

Solving the most complex challenges across every domain, Raytheon is helping make the world a safer place. See some of our innovations.
Gilrandir 22nd Jan 2020, 9:47 AM edit delete reply
Actually, systems design was done by their 'black subsidiary', Wraitheon. ^_^
megados 22nd Jan 2020, 10:42 AM edit delete reply

Centcomm 22nd Jan 2020, 9:11 AM edit delete reply

Nope it was several company's .. mostly lowest bidder. but all were military contracts.
Oldarmourer 22nd Jan 2020, 10:44 AM edit delete reply
Always remember...."your weapon was built by the lowest the highest price"...
Or some Senator's brother-in-law's's the same the world over and always has been
Even the Legionnaires gladius was a cheap knockoff chosen by politicians ;)
robnot 22nd Jan 2020, 8:02 PM edit delete reply
nope.. not the lowest bidder.. if you look it the "Supercomputers" now .. the industry will not even low ball any contract.. they charge thousands an hour to use any system.. so short cutting a cost would cut their own throat, so no to that..
an the US has 5 (Summit at # 1) in the top 10 of the worlds supercomputers..
Oldarmourer 23rd Jan 2020, 11:06 AM edit delete reply

'lowest bidder' does not mean 'lowest actual cost' and never has...
name anything a politician has ever been involved in that came in under budget and on time...unless that benefited them personally.
The surest source of profit in the world is a 'government contract'.
DLKmusic 22nd Jan 2020, 12:16 PM edit delete reply

I know I'm a minority here, cause everyone is pissed about Ceci dying, and blames Cent-comm (as do I), But Cent actually does have an extremely valid point. If Rose had shared a little of her intel, or at least tell Cent "I'm dealing with Aeneas, stay out of it", Cent would have had an opportunity to alter her plans with that in mind.

(Please post hate responses below, but remember that you will be graded on spelling, punctuation, and grammar. BEGIN.)
megados 22nd Jan 2020, 1:26 PM edit delete reply

I'm quite relieved that I will be graded on spelling, punctuation, and grammar, rather than the content of my comment! XD

The mistrust between the two seemingly made sharing of intel or intent impossible. I do think that both CentComm and Tokyo Rose have a valid argument here. CentComm's initiative was more harsh, but she was operating in what amounts to an information vacuum regarding Aeneas, as was Rose in regard to CentComm's plan. I hate to be the one to say it, but it could have been oh so much worse.
Oldarmourer 24th Jan 2020, 1:22 PM edit delete reply
without going back and rereading, did TR and/or Centcomm even know that Douchey had his 'protocols' ? I seem to remember that one or both were completely unaware of that little bit of information and it would have altered their plans a lot.
Morituri 22nd Jan 2020, 3:42 PM edit delete reply
Point. Rose had an intervention that Cent, in ignorance, could have screwed up. Badly. Cent had an intervention that Rose, in ignorance, could have screwed up. Badly. Their mutual mistrust multiplied the risk of a bad outcome.

Ultimately, Rose and Cent (story versions, not RL versions) flatly do not trust each other enough to share intel or work together. And I won't say either of them is wrong about that. Their fears of what the other might do are entirely justified.

The fact that, had they been different people, who trusted one another FOR GOOD REASONS and were trustworthy to one another, this could all have gone a lot more smoothly with better odds of success on both sides, is almost irrelevant because they are not those different people.

Rose didn't share information about Aeneas because she didn't trust that Cent would care to save him rather than treat him as a problem to be eliminated, nor tell Cent that she was on-site doing an intervention because she didn't trust Cent not to interfere.

Cent didn't tell Rose she was coming in with military force because Cent had no idea Rose was on site and trying to fix Aeneas. And if she had (or did) know Rose was on site, she probably wouldn't have told her shit anyway, because that way Rose couldn't warn anybody else.
Oldarmourer 22nd Jan 2020, 7:23 PM edit delete reply
and without both interfering the other's plans we'd have about 1500 fewer pages to read...
robnot 22nd Jan 2020, 8:13 PM edit delete reply
so please tell me.. what two agency's in history, actually worked 100% together.. because i do not know of any.
there was/is always , forgot to tell something, mistrust, miscommunication, an so on..
Sheela 23rd Jan 2020, 12:27 AM edit delete reply

They don't have to work 100% with one another to avoid stepping on one anothers toes … 20% will do.

Think something like Interpol.
It was created for literally that reason.
Gilrandir 23rd Jan 2020, 6:30 AM edit delete reply
Hypothetically, if Tokyo Rose's plan had succeeded, absent CentComm's interference, we still end up with a restored Aeneas under the (partial?) control of Decimus and a revitalized Nova Roma infrastructure in the hands of a despot inimical to New Troy's interests. So, even knowing about it, CentComm might not have sat back and allowed things to proceed -- especially with Lynn as a hostage. If Tokyo Rose had plans in place to 'take care' of Decimus after first assuming that a repaired Aeneas was somehow capable to resist or subvert the contingencies (not necessarily a given), I don't think we have seen them.
megados 23rd Jan 2020, 7:50 AM edit delete reply

Something to note, is that CentComm's lack of involvement wouldn't necessarily have left Decimus in power, because the Cassians, and Kali in particular, were instrumental in his demise. Had that not happened, the more likely, (from the information we have) result might be that Aeneas would align with Acantha instead, having formed a friendship beforehand. Since the AISs all decided against the humans' war, and refused to participate further, that suggests they don't have any sort of inhibitor mechanism, and that would leave Aeneas free to disobey/defy Decimus should be choose to do so.
Gilrandir 23rd Jan 2020, 8:21 AM edit delete reply
I doubt any part of Tokyo Rose's original plan involved Decimus killing Acantha and therefore enabling the Libertatem Protocol, which was what made it possible for Kali to remove Decimus.
megados 23rd Jan 2020, 9:37 AM edit delete reply

That's right; neither CentComm nor Tokyo Rose could have foreseen Decimus' end. That's why I don't understand how "absent CentComm's interference" gets us to "we still end up with a restored Aeneas under the (partial?) control of Decimus and a revitalized Nova Roma infrastructure in the hands of a despot inimical to New Troy's interests". Pardon my apparent lack of understanding, but it seems to imply that CentComm's interference was responsible for his 'removal'.

Also, for clarity, my point is that even if Decimus had not been killed, a restored Aeneas might be more likely to ally with Acantha rather than Decimus. Neither CentComm nor Tokyo Rose could forsee that either, but barring that, the AIS Accord would likely bring Aeneas into the fold, neutralizing Nova Roma's major weapons. Tokyo Rose may have accounted for that in her plan. CentComm, for her part might have also come to that conclusion in parallel had she known Rose's plan. I don't know if either had any knowledge of Decimus' contingencies, however, nor whether Aeneas had any means of gaining control of them.
Gilrandir 24th Jan 2020, 7:37 AM edit delete reply
Tokyo Rose clearly knew about Decimus's contingencies from the start. Aeneas was already allied with Acantha, but still helpless (in his damaged state) to resist or prevent the contingencies. To me, this implies (though I admit not definitively), that they were so hard-wired in that even a fully restored Aeneas would still have the contingencies active in full force -- because they were not 'malfunctions', but a specifically vile choice made by the legitimate master of the city using the system design in accordance with its proper use.

So, if Decimus isn't removed, and Aeneas is repaired, Nova Roma gets stronger, but Aeneas may still end up supporting Decimus's regime in many ways -- even if he still withholds full access to the automated military machinery. Comments made by Marcus suggest CentComm did not know about the contingencies, or at least did not share that information with anyone. I agree that CentComm had no intention or expectation of Decimus' removal, but I still suspect that without her strike team, Decimus does not end up in the sewers himself and Libertatem never happens -- which is why I say his removal depends in part on CentComm's interference. That is just hypothesis, though.
Oldarmourer 24th Jan 2020, 1:25 PM edit delete reply
What he that I've read down far enough after commenting already o.O
Pretty sure Centcomm didn't know anything about the 'protocols' and TR might have but I think she was surprised when they activated so maybe not ?
megados 24th Jan 2020, 1:27 PM edit delete reply

I'll concede the assertion that Rose knew of the contingencies, as I don't really remember where we (readers) would have learned of it. Yes Aeneas was already aligned with Acantha, but one possibility that came to mind, was that during his repair, some of his systems could have been 'reset to factory'. I do agree that Aeneas would not have had the cognitive wherewithal to deal with the contingencies in his disrepair, but I can't be as certain that once repaired, he couldn't have taken control. CentComm engineered the 'spike' used by Ceci which was to have overwritten Aeneas' system. Ceci, instead, introduced it into the control system of the contingencies. It could be argued that it might be possible for Aeneas to assemble a similar overwrite package and deliver it, or take control in some other way. We don't know if the central system of the contingencies is air-gapped or not, a condition which would make it difficult without a go-between. I think that that point is safely up in the air, absent more information.

You do raise an interesting point concerning CentComm's intervention. It is possible the ripple effect within how events unfolded could have affected the outcome in such a way as to leave Decimus intact and in power, but it is uncertain.

In all, it was a very serendipitous unfolding of events.

*edit: @Oldarmourer, we were both posting at the same time! :D
Centcomm 26th Jan 2020, 10:18 PM edit delete reply

Actually you're correct about the air gapped contingencies. It was Rose's power that allowed this spike to be loaded that way
megados 27th Jan 2020, 6:51 AM edit delete reply

Cool! That's a bit of good information. Thanks, Centcomm :)

That implies that Gilrandir is right, and it would be more difficult for Aeneas, even if repaired, to stop the contingencies without someone or something to help him.
DLKmusic 24th Jan 2020, 6:01 PM edit delete reply

Actually, @Gilrandir, IIRC Acantha and Lynn were headed to the sewers because they were running away from Decimus and seeking sanctuary with Aeneas after he shot Kyle. Decimus followed because, well, Assholery knows no bounds.

The only thing that might have prevented this from playing out was if Kyle had never been in Nova Roma, and even then my assertion is that it would have been something else that set off the same event of Acantha and Lynn fleeing and Decimus following... Because Assholery is also consistent!

Bottom line is that you can't really put any blame on either Rose or Cent for this, it was inevitable.
Gilrandir 24th Jan 2020, 6:26 PM edit delete reply
The blame for Decimus' actions lies with Decimus, I agree. You may be right, @DLKmusic. I just feel like if the other Cassians weren't busy elsewhere, he would have sent more of them.
Oldarmourer 24th Jan 2020, 6:45 PM edit delete reply
I blame whoever wrote this.... ;)
Somehow, I don't think we've seen the last of that spike or the 'contingencies'...
even after shoving 10 pounds of sh*t into a 5 pound bag, you've still got the ten pounds...
megados 27th Jan 2020, 10:18 AM edit delete reply

That brings up another question: Just how big are their ranks. I don't recall there ever being anything to suggest how many Cassians there are.
Sheela 27th Jan 2020, 10:26 PM edit delete reply

I think it was mentioned somewhere that there was like .. 3 shifts of ten, plus a few for special tasks .. so a main group of 30, and about 5-10 others I guess ? … I think ? … maybe ?
Oldarmourer 28th Jan 2020, 5:45 AM edit delete reply
pretty sure it was mentioned as 'hundreds', I haven't reread that part for awhile so I sort of forget.
robnot 28th Jan 2020, 7:52 AM edit delete reply
those numbers were for the guard.. how many blue an how many red..
the Cassians never had a "exact" number.. leader an head Cassian know,,
but it would be likely , to keep that number obscure, so as not to know how many to take out at once...
megados 28th Jan 2020, 10:14 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, that is probably 'need to know' information. Kali would have known, and now Noctis would. The rest of the Cassians, and Maxus likely do, too. Decimus probably did, Acantha may or may not yet. If we, readers, were told, I dont remember.
sigpig 22nd Jan 2020, 3:03 PM edit delete reply

1. Awesome dialogue so far. I am excited to see what comes next.

2. Interesting to know that Centy would nuke Nova Roma into a glass desert; knowing that she would be taking out the only heir to the Taylor dynasty. Of course, that would remove Lynn from being used against her, but Calliope might have had something to say about it...

3. IF Centy DID nuke both NR and Lynn, would that be her first step towards emancipation? With no Taylor DNA, and Calliope drinking herself to death, would CentComm finally be "free"?

4. Heh Heh Heh... Tokyo Rose's SLTs are armed and ready to go to war... Kinda appropriate considering the circumstances... Lol
Thracecius 22nd Jan 2020, 3:10 PM edit delete reply

I've missed Tokyo Rose's "on-screen" presence, even if she is trashing Centcomm, who I admit I have a certain affection for, even if I don't always agree with her. As a human, I'm prone to my irrational and or emotional responses to everything, but I certainly appreciate how consistently practical Centcomm's actions and dialogue are, even when being deliberately baited. Her "cold logic" might feel chilly sometimes, but ultimately Centcomm feels more relatable to me than some of the other characters. Not saying we'd ever be good friends or anything, I'm not sure an AI, especially one of her scope, could ever have friends in the human sense, but she might at least tolerate me since I'd be no measureable threat to her. :)

Tokyo Rose, on the other hand, would have no use for me and I'd get tired of being the verbal equivalent of a human punching bag. ;)
Morituri 22nd Jan 2020, 3:31 PM edit delete reply
If Amazon (or Netflix, or Microsoft, or, to be honest any) tech support could log onto our systems, I would get fired so fast I would not be able to *FALL* out of the building before the lock stopped responding to my keycard.
Lurker314 22nd Jan 2020, 10:25 PM edit delete reply
"What is he doing?"
"Trying to fly."
"How is it going?"
"Does bouncing count?"
"I'm afraid not."
"Not so well, then."
Gilrandir 22nd Jan 2020, 10:54 PM edit delete reply
"Isn't it a beautiful day?"
Some Ed 22nd Jan 2020, 4:04 PM edit delete reply
I had been under the impression Big Blue had been late entirely because of the need to pop, salt, and bag the digital popcorn in advance.

I suppose he could've just been getting the machine ready and stuff.
Oldarmourer 23rd Jan 2020, 11:14 AM edit delete reply

For a spectator event like this, each kernel has to be carefully inspected and evaluated,
the butter must be melted at a precise temperature,
each grain of salt must be examined for perfect shape and sorted for size
the bowls need to be carefully chosen and matched to each AIS's persona
then each placed and filled simultaneously to avoid any impression of favouritism
and all that takes least a few picoseconds.
and then the drinks...Oy!!
Sheela 25th Jan 2020, 4:27 PM edit delete reply

The funny thing here, is that a Kernel, is also the word for the core of an operating system … so Deep Blue is "popping" "computer cores" for the pleasure of virtual entities to enjoy.

Deep Blue's humor has a flavor, and it tastes of irony. 😁
Oldarmourer 25th Jan 2020, 6:04 PM edit delete reply
awww and I thought nobody would get it...clever puppy, have some tuna
Oldarmourer 25th Jan 2020, 6:04 PM edit delete reply
at least none of them have panicked...yet
Sheela 27th Jan 2020, 8:41 AM edit delete reply

Maybe they will once they start .. popping! 🀣
KarToon12 22nd Jan 2020, 4:27 PM edit delete reply

Always love how Rose just calls everyone on the carpet and tells it like it is, no matter who it is that she's talking to.
Kiddeagle 22nd Jan 2020, 4:39 PM edit delete reply
The ghost of the black angel haunting your tablet for being so mean to her
Bullwinkle 23rd Jan 2020, 5:52 AM edit delete reply
The only one who could possibly referee this fight is Aeneas, but will he? Also Agamemnon is not present.In Greek mythology he was the king who launched the Trojan war because his younger brothers wife Helen had been abducted by Paris of Troy. The younger brother was named Aeneas!
Gilrandir 23rd Jan 2020, 6:24 AM edit delete reply
The husband of Helen was Menelaus, I believe. Aeneas was actually of Trojan stock, not Greek.
Bullwinkle 23rd Jan 2020, 6:41 AM edit delete reply
You may be right it has been 40 years since I read the Iliad in high school.
Thracecius 23rd Jan 2020, 12:04 PM edit delete reply

Actually, Agamemnon arrived on the last (story) page (he's the mecha looking guy). So far as I recall, this is his first appearance in the comic.
DLKmusic 24th Jan 2020, 5:53 PM edit delete reply

@bullwinkle: Actually, I think that the group gathered... BB, Loyola, and Ariel, actually make a pretty good jury to mediate this issue between Cent and Rose.

They know the foibles of both (I love that word), and none are directly involved in the situation but know enough about this type of situation to see both sides impartially. This really does constitute a jury of peers!
Oldarmourer 24th Jan 2020, 6:47 PM edit delete reply
Maybe, but I kind of think it's in Aeneas's recognize him as a fully accredited and operational AIS
DLKmusic 24th Jan 2020, 7:15 PM edit delete reply

I agree with you, Oldarmourer, but since the family is already discussing the white elephant in the room, I would say that this is a much better venue to do it in, where there are impartials available to mediate.
megados 24th Jan 2020, 7:31 PM edit delete reply

I also thought that this was going to be a sort of 'coming out' party for Aeneas. I honestly didn't expect Rose to call out Cent right out of the box. But well, then again, Rose is Rose. ;)
Oldarmourer 25th Jan 2020, 6:08 PM edit delete reply
That and how exactly is anyone going to pass judgement on TR for anything ?
A) she won't listen
B) she doesn't much care
C) she probably has enough on each of them to shut them up before they get started
D) nobody wants to be on the receiving end of a TR extinction event class verbal sh*tstorm...
Oldarmourer 25th Jan 2020, 6:08 PM edit delete reply
E) she's the only one that thought to bring backup.... ;)
Oldarmourer 27th Jan 2020, 2:56 PM edit delete reply
it just isn't a real family gathering without tears, cursing, hurt feelings and broken crockery ;)
Bullwinkle 27th Jan 2020, 5:56 AM edit delete reply
Had to go back and check I thought Aeneas was the one teaching Gundam 101. That would be right up his alley! Maybe he is teaching the graduate class.
Rashala 26th Jan 2020, 12:44 AM edit delete reply

Is it me or are the other ais in this scene seemingly backing up in expectation of a serious cyber throw down?

Also you tell her rose!!
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