Comic 1652 - Consistently Nice

31st Mar 2020, 9:00 PM
Consistently Nice
Average Rating: 5 (14 votes)

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Tokyo Rose 31st Mar 2020, 9:00 PM edit delete
Tokyo Rose
We were thinking about an April Fool's Day strip, but we just went with the actual page instead because you guys have been so nice about the last couple of weeks. Oh, and the Artist was supposed to go in for a cortisone injection to try to relieve the pain today, but thanks to COVID-19, the fucking office canceled the appointment.
Centcomm 6th Apr 2020, 7:59 AM edit delete
And today is the artists b-day.. yay...
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megados 31st Mar 2020, 9:14 PM edit delete reply

In-story Rose is consistently Rose. Nice sometimes, but don't count on it.

Re:A/N, . . . shit, that's a gut punch. I'm sad but not surprised, sorry to hear Cent isn't going to get relief yet. Thanks for making a page ladies. It's appreciated, but under the circumstances, it's above and beyond.

Is ibuprofen out of the question with your other stuff, Centcomm? I don't have ideas to offer if you can't see the doctor. :(

I've had a recent doctor appt. cancelled, and an upcoming one that I assume will be too.
Centcomm 31st Mar 2020, 9:31 PM edit delete reply

im on T4.s at the moment. the main issue is that my manual dexterity is degrading and its really pissing me off - they actually said. well its not life threatening. ...
Lurker314 1st Apr 2020, 12:54 AM edit delete reply
I'm trying to get my head around the reasoning. My wife's PT appointments have been cancelled for 3 months with no promises after that. I'm thinking now that perhaps they are preserving PPG for those dealing with infections & just denying everything not "critical". Sucks, but when you know that a significant number of your med staff are going to get ill...
Some Ed 1st Apr 2020, 7:27 AM edit delete reply
My flatmate works in a hospital. She's not in a patient contact department, but actually in a better place for me to have more insight into the situation. Since she's been working from home (she's administrative, specifically research compliance) and her impromptu home office is right beside my home office, I've been able to overhear her side of her meetings.

They're not only preserving PPG for those dealing with the infection and those who might have it, but a lot of hospital resources have dramatically shifted. All new research at her hospital and all of the hospitals they work with have been COVID-19 related since around the time we had our first suspected cases that were not travelers. Existing studies were initially allowed to continue, but I haven't heard anything about those in weeks.

Even with the hospital providing PPG to patients, I really would not want to go there right now. There still aren't a huge number of people with it, but it's contagious enough that the number of people with it already is very worrying.

It does sound like there's been a lot of progress on finding drugs to treat it and finding alternative ways to test for it that don't require the reagents that are now in short supply everywhere because of being needed to test for this. Unfortunately, this is one of those things that is hard to predict when we'll have a cure for and when we'll have alternate tests for, because we just won't know until something has been approved. I probably won't know before the general population, because she's not going to be breaking the news to people. As research compliance, she just talks about the processes that people needs to follow, does the paperwork to facilitate this, and figures out how to rectify processes and mitigate situations when people didn't follow process. When stuff gets approved, studies get closed - but they also get closed if the results are sufficiently poor.

It sounds like they're wanting to have multiple approved treatments (to mitigate supply chain issues) and multiple approved testing methods (to mitigate supply chain issues), so there won't be a sudden mass study closing until sufficient mass has been reached, and there won't be celebrating until COVID-19 is a thing of the past. There will absolutely be a public announcement of a cure before either of those.
Evervigilant 1st Apr 2020, 1:00 AM edit delete reply
I can relate. I've been dealing with heart palpitations for about a month now. I went to see cardiologist and he was going to schedule a Cardiac Calcium Score Screening to see if I had hardened arteries but the hospital says they aren't doing them right now because of Covid-19 and probably won't until May or June. So for now I get to go every day wondering if it will be a day my heart feels like it's doing flip flops or not and wondering if it will decide to just stop for good or not. I was told to call 911 if that happens though.
HiFranc 1st Apr 2020, 1:06 AM edit delete reply

HiFranc 1st Apr 2020, 1:08 AM edit delete reply

All I can do is send good wishes.
Oldarmourer 1st Apr 2020, 10:32 AM edit delete reply
The appropriate response to that is..."that depends entirely on whose life we're talking about" channel TR ;)
megados 1st Apr 2020, 1:38 PM edit delete reply

@Centcomm, On one hand that's kind of a slap in the face, like you don't matter, but on the other hand, I understand why they say it. The timing certainly sucks. :( There are exercises that might help in the interim, but I'm thinking you already know that. I can 'hear' your frustration, so all I'll say, is go easy, and take care of yourself.

As for the page, if you hadn't told us, I'd never know there was anything wrong. It looks like the usual great pages everyone is used to, so there's that! But thanks for letting us know. Your well-being matters.
Oldarmourer 2nd Apr 2020, 9:49 AM edit delete reply

I always find it funny when things tie in or just fall together in convoluted or whimsical ways...

It happens so often I wonder..."is it really co-incidence ? or do we just notice similar things more after the fact ?"

The dentist called and cancelled my appt. the other day and today this pops up on a news blog I read :) a classic...

Just as well, I didn't want to go anyway...
HiFranc 1st Apr 2020, 1:13 AM edit delete reply

Aeneas probably has seen Rose’s good side.
mjkj 1st Apr 2020, 5:22 AM edit delete reply

Indeed, when was Rose ever consistently nice? =P

It seems she made her point

I wonder what Aeneas will say to all of that...

Great page, Cent and Rose =)

...hope you are doing better soon, Cent...
Some Ed 1st Apr 2020, 7:31 AM edit delete reply
Rose has always been consistently nice.

It's just her nice doesn't really sound like it to people who can't manage to get their collective assets in gear.
Oldarmourer 1st Apr 2020, 10:34 AM edit delete reply
true, she's consistently 'nice' comparison to her 'not nice' moments :)
Andrew Armstrong 1st Apr 2020, 5:42 AM edit delete reply
Thank you for the page :-) but please don't hurt yourself, Cent.
Oldarmourer 1st Apr 2020, 10:36 AM edit delete reply
Yes, don't aggravate anything by overusing it.
On the other hand, if they need to be moved a little to keep them from stiffening more, filler is fine...preferably drawn by someone else while you rest.
SeanR 1st Apr 2020, 11:03 AM edit delete reply
I wonder what DMSO would do to cortisone.
Of course, there's the downsides of DMSO basically turning your skin off.

I hope you're all reasonably good. I noticed another strip, associated with yours, that has been idle for over a month now, and it has me a little worried.
Thracecius 1st Apr 2020, 11:19 AM edit delete reply

While I think Tokyo Rose has made her point about her behavior, it's also starting to become tiresome under the current circumstances. Want people to listen to you? Stop acting like an a-hole and insulting them every other word. Doesn't matter if you think someone deserves a dressing down, if they aren't out of control and you have their full attention, don't be a jerk. It used to be called common courtesy, but even in the present day and age it's considered "old fashioned", or something derogatroy I'm not aware of yet. I'm not going to claim I'm the picture of proper etiquette, but I at least try to be polite in any given situation.

Don't get me wrong, I still like Tokyo Rose as a character and find her amusing most of the time because of her creative "colorful metaphors", but at this point I think I've lost the thread of the overall conversation and why anyone should care about her extensive research and analysis. Want to lay blame entirely at Centcomm's fee? Fine. Go ahead and do that if it makes you feel better, but it won't change anything and it isn't going improve the current situation, so all it accomplishes is wasting time; seems like a very human trait to me.
Sheela 1st Apr 2020, 1:51 PM edit delete reply

Alternatively, you could call it "get to the point".

Ah, but villains do love a good rant, don't they ?
Thracecius 2nd Apr 2020, 10:39 AM edit delete reply

Huh, I'd never thought of Tokyo Rose as a villain before, but I can see your point. She's certainly an antagonist! :D
Oldarmourer 3rd Apr 2020, 1:22 PM edit delete reply
I don't know if TR is an antagonist in the literary sense or if that's her actual role.
She's very good, $@#$%^!! good in fact, at antagonizing people and seems to enjoy it...
But does that make her an antagonist or an antagonizer ?
Or does she just subscribe to the theory that if you make an opponent angry they're more likely to make mistakes ?
sigpig 1st Apr 2020, 11:23 AM edit delete reply

I am not a doctor, but I deal with chronic pain in different areas (knee, migraines, etc).
Three things that have helped me with pain (aside from my prescribed meds) are, in increasing effectiveness:
1. Voltaren ointment;
2. Zostrix - an ointment that uses capsicum (hot chili extract); and
3. CBD ointment.
Please, if any of these, or any other therapy, can reduce the pain in your hands, ween yourself off the T4s. With your other medical conditions, and COVID-19, you do NOT need a sedating medication like that.
KarToon12 1st Apr 2020, 11:49 AM edit delete reply

Petition to change his name to Father Sherlock. XD
Oldarmourer 1st Apr 2020, 12:33 PM edit delete reply
megados 1st Apr 2020, 1:24 PM edit delete reply


Oldarmourer 1st Apr 2020, 12:52 PM edit delete reply
Thought this just about covered it....

Sheela 1st Apr 2020, 1:54 PM edit delete reply

Aw, Ariel is being adorable. 😁

Heck, Rose is even trying to be nice to her.
Oldarmourer 1st Apr 2020, 7:26 PM edit delete reply
Which is probably why she appears to be the 'last one standing' from Europe.
We don't talk about what happened to the 'second last one standing' *shudders, then looks over shouder toward the sea*
Thracecius 2nd Apr 2020, 11:02 AM edit delete reply

I'm not so sure that Tokyo Rose is being nice to Ariel, it looks more like a condescension to me. Maybe she likes Ariel, but she's certainly not exuding respect with either her facial expression or tone, at least not by my interpretation. She's singularly the most arrogant, self-righteous and obnoxious AIS in the whole story, so far as I can see, and if this is her idea of being decent to "friends", then I'd find it hard to reciprocate that friendship. Someone needs to tell her to get off her soapbox and get to the point before they disconnect from the meeting. She gets points for showmanship, but since when do artificial intelligences need to feel important, especially to this degree? They may not like Centcomm, but at least she doesn't lollygag and needlessly insult everyone.
megados 2nd Apr 2020, 12:11 PM edit delete reply

Rose isn't an AIS. Begin here: Rose's Reveal. Then continue here. She is actually a cryogenic human. :D

This sequence also reminded me of something, so thanks for making me look!
Oldarmourer 2nd Apr 2020, 1:16 PM edit delete reply
TR probably had a hand in the construction of some of the AIS's so she can talk back to her 'kids' when she wants ;)
Thracecius 3rd Apr 2020, 11:03 AM edit delete reply

@megados: Oh, I remember that Rose is not an AIS, but the discussion has been that only we readers know that, not the characters in the story, which is why I find it incredible that none of them have made mention of her behavior being off-kilter to anyone, except for Centcomm.

I checked the link you provided and it proves that I forgot, Aeneas knows Rose is human because she revealed herself to him, but he can't say anything on pain of death (more or less), so unless he proves to be duplicitous, I'm not going to consider him a factor in her discovery.

Edit: When I began reading this comic a few years ago it was a massive binge read that took weeks. I reread through to Ceci's end and...found my own comment (page 1387):

"You are forever cemented into my memory, CeCi. Godspeed, child.

ATB - Straight to the Stars (feat. Sean Ryan)

VNV Nation - Beloved

Your work is inspiring and thoughtful, CentComm and Tokyo Rose. You have my heartfelt thanks, particularly for the bittersweet moments like this scene, which make me appreciate a character like CeCi all the more. May you both live long, happy lives of creative wonder, and may we always be fortunate enough to share in your labors.


I think it's important to note that, while CeCi was the hero of the day by stopping the Doomsday program, it was Tokyo Rose who made that feat possible by her quick thinking and trust that her gamble would pay off, especially considering that she had no real way of knowing if a restored CeCi would (or could) make the right decision. Ultimately though, even if it hadn't worked, I think Tokyo Rose deserves sincere thanks for bringing CeCi back and allowing her to die as herself. There is dignity in being able to face your fate on your own terms, and that is the gift that Tokyo Rose gave her. She may well be ill-tempered and manipulative, but it comes from an overriding sense of duty and compassion that is easy to misunderstand, but impossible to deny once you recognize it. That is the quality of her character, and a measure of those who took the time to create her. You have my thanks for sharing her with us."

It's probably more than a little self-centered to share my own comments from earlier pages, but I feel like publicly shaming myself for being so critical of Tokyo Rose lately. I don't like realizing I'm a hypocrite. :P
megados 3rd Apr 2020, 1:32 PM edit delete reply

Apologies, then. The context led me to believe that you were asserting that she was an AIS. My mistake.
Thracecius 6th Apr 2020, 11:36 AM edit delete reply

No worries, I can see how my choice of words would lead to that conclusion. Sometimes *I* know what I mean, but I don't write it so everyone else knows what I mean. ;)
Rashala 2nd Apr 2020, 12:08 AM edit delete reply

Nope I don't think anyone there can argue that point....moving on.
Oldarmourer 3rd Apr 2020, 5:59 PM edit delete reply

Pure genius....good for debit and ATM keypads too...why didn't I think of this years ago ???

kill it with fire !!!
Romfire 4th Apr 2020, 8:55 PM edit delete reply
While TR isn't all that nice, she seems to be always on the side of "good". A little foul mouthed, but her heart is in the right place.
I wonder if Aeneas will point that out.

PS Cent, do you have a P.O. box or something? It isn't much, but I have a $30 Wallmart gift card I received as a bonus I could send it to you without my wife freaking out about me "wasting" bill money. (Dang joint bank account)
megados 6th Apr 2020, 8:12 AM edit delete reply

Happy Birthday Centcomm! I hope you are staying safe.

*Big Hug*
robnot 6th Apr 2020, 8:21 AM edit delete reply
Happy Birthday.!
Oldarmourer 6th Apr 2020, 11:08 AM edit delete reply
Happy Solar Orbit Completion Day, may there be many more...
Thracecius 6th Apr 2020, 11:34 AM edit delete reply

Happy Birthday, Centcomm! :)
kraznor 6th Apr 2020, 12:11 PM edit delete reply
Happy Birthday
Demarquis 7th Apr 2020, 4:45 PM edit delete reply
Though I can't disupute Rose's final assertion, were I there I would point out that even with all her superior intell, her plan would still not have worked, so thank Centcom didn't follow it.
mjkj 8th Apr 2020, 1:48 AM edit delete reply

Happy belated birthday, Cent :)
Sheela 8th Apr 2020, 3:47 PM edit delete reply

I turn my back on the internet for a few days, and what happens ?

Happy belated birfday, Centcomm. 😁
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