Comic 1694 - Meeting Cent-Comm

14th Apr 2021, 12:00 AM
Meeting Cent-Comm
Average Rating: 5 (15 votes)

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Centcomm 21st Apr 2021, 1:12 PM edit delete
Centcomm
sorry about the lack of page - i got behind on several things.. that and pain killers make you lose time.
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me 14th Apr 2021, 12:22 AM edit delete reply
"Is there anything you'd like to discuss with ME - without your regent listening in on us?"
Sheela 14th Apr 2021, 4:04 AM edit delete reply

And without the council as well.
I think this is a reasonable consideration.

Diplomatics, CentComm has them. 😁
Just_IDD 16th Apr 2021, 5:40 AM edit delete reply
Noctis is present, it would be expected that anything of note would be reported to Maximus. I actually would expect that Maximus would be interested in how she answers this question.

For me: "Is there any information which you feel is pertinent to the forth coming discussion about which I don't have knowledge and should?
me 20th Apr 2021, 12:40 PM edit delete reply
I'm not quite sure where Noctis' loyalties would lie if she had to chose between Maximus and the Princess.
megados 20th Apr 2021, 4:57 PM edit delete reply

There isn't a cut-and-dried answer to that. It would depend on context and circumstances. Her core purpose is to protect New Rome, and the throne (no matter who is seated there).
Just_IDD 21st Apr 2021, 4:41 AM edit delete reply
In this case, until Acantha's majority that is Reagent Maximus Valouris. Noctis wont fail to protect Princess Acantha, but a reagent acts as a proxy. Even if Acantha is present he is still the leader.

It is a literary trope that Reagents usurp the mionr quite often, but reagecy is a relativly rare state in the real world.
Morituri 14th Apr 2021, 12:30 AM edit delete reply
Oooh! Oooh! I've got one! Acantha's probably too polite to ask, but I'm sure it's going through her mind:

About that whole "destined to fail" thing, the easiest way for Centcomm to know that is if she's got them contacting her (through some intermediaries who don't know who they're working for) about the bounty before they take their shots. That way Cent is forewarned and knows who to keep an eye on.

As a bonus, Acantha's given a sober warning about possible hostile factions back home, and motivated to stay in sight where Cent can protect her rather than getting too adventurous in the city. As a further bonus, the scary Cassian is almost certain to stay in sight and cooperate, even if suspicious, in anything that can be pitched as contributing to Acantha's security.

So did somebody in Nova Roma come up with this bounty in an honest attempt to get Acantha dead, or was it just you trying to scare her, control her, and instill an appreciation of cooperation in the cause of mutual defense?

Because I'm naturally a suspicious bastard, that's why.

Sheela 14th Apr 2021, 4:07 AM edit delete reply

Naw, CentComm is less likely to be a sneaky pants, and more likely to be a "Hammer it in the face!" kinda gal. "Destined to fail" just means that Centcomm has a lot of resources to protect Acantha.

She *is* a war-AI after all. 😁
Morituri 14th Apr 2021, 8:34 AM edit delete reply
You're right, that's probably more of a Tokyo Rose move.
Fairportfan 16th Apr 2021, 7:39 PM edit delete reply

Something a wise old Master Chief Boatswain's Mate once tld me:

"You don't have to swing the big hammer with all your strength - but there's a limit to how hard you can hit with the little one."
Sheela 18th Apr 2021, 12:17 AM edit delete reply

You just need more speed, if you throw the small hammer at lightspeed, it will still do some damage. 😁
Guest 21st Apr 2021, 2:22 AM edit delete reply
According to https://what-if.xkcd.com/1/ it wouldn't be "some" damage but rather "small nuke kind of" damage.
Oldarmourer 19th Apr 2021, 2:58 PM edit delete reply
Yup, as we always said "don't hit it harder, get a bigger hammer"
Because sometimes 'brute strength and ignorance' is the only thing that works ;)
Gilrandir 20th Apr 2021, 1:55 AM edit delete reply
Flavor text from the “Orbital Bombardment” card of the BattleTech CCG: “If brute force isn’t the solution to your problem, you aren’t using enough of it.”
Oldarmourer 20th Apr 2021, 5:52 PM edit delete reply
Or another one of ours (got the T-shirt)
"There are very few personal problems which can't be solved by the application of a precise amount of High Explosives"
Ryu Santos 14th Apr 2021, 12:42 AM edit delete reply

Careful Acantha, Cent-Comm could be after your Grandmother's super secret chilli recipe.

Alt. Text: Snark is okay. Until you wake up together in the morning, after finding the snark became a boojum.
Oldarmourer 14th Apr 2021, 4:52 AM edit delete reply
hmmm a little bit of snark might be just the beginning...
Is Marcus destined to be the next 'Imperiatrix's Consort' ? We just lost ours up here :(
robnot 14th Apr 2021, 11:35 AM edit delete reply
Imperiatrix's Consort: IF i know Marcus.. she would be a great .. (insert wherever here.) But he WON'T.! first she is under age .! big no no for him.! second, he IS military,. he won't mess that up for a 'foreign power'.. and finally he knows Dolly,.! so he knows he would have to get thru "Noctis" to do any thing,, so not worth the 'pay off.!'
Oldarmourer 15th Apr 2021, 5:28 PM edit delete reply
Depends, Nova Roma is close to where I live and the age of consent here starts at 14, Princesses have been know to be married off much younger, as young as 7 or so with the 'consummation' coming later...sometimes not by much.
Marcus Ramesy 18th Apr 2021, 10:27 AM edit delete reply

I beleive Robnot hit the nail on the head here.
Just_IDD 23rd Apr 2021, 5:08 PM edit delete reply
So you are saying that Marcus will get to nail the head?

I mean I really don't, but I couldn't pass up on leaving the question (or well enough) alone.
mjkj 14th Apr 2021, 12:43 AM edit delete reply

nice banter...

Acantha sure is suited for that job...

...maybe they will address Ophie's "dreams", too?

@alt text: lol, I guess they are...
oldastronomer 14th Apr 2021, 12:45 AM edit delete reply
If I remember rightly, Acantha has already met a Cent doll, back in hospital. But given the haze of medication, that memory may have slipped a tidge.
I reckon the bounty is genuine, given the existence of the erstwhile hangers on of Decimus. (deep sigh).
Gilrandir 14th Apr 2021, 1:06 AM edit delete reply
“Will Aeneas be joining us?”

It seems to me that to have the ruling powers of New Troy plus their AIS meeting the ruling powers of Nova Roma without their equivalent gives a powerful advantage to New Troy in any negotiations that might occur. Unless Aeneas is not sufficiently capable, or is unable to securely participate, this seems like a meeting to which he should be invited.
Oldarmourer 14th Apr 2021, 4:50 AM edit delete reply
The AIS's already met without their equivalent 'ruling powers', Centy didn't do so well with Aeneas that time...
That seems to imply that the AIS's consider the human 'governing bodies' to be, at most, transient.
megados 14th Apr 2021, 5:07 AM edit delete reply

It kind of speaks to apparent differences between New Rome and New Troy. The "ruling class" in New Troy doesn't seem to have a lot of hands-on activity, and leaves much of the ruling to CentComm and the military hierarchy.
sigpig 14th Apr 2021, 8:47 AM edit delete reply

But IS there a "ruling class" in New Troy? I honestly can't remember. I mean, Centy is only "ruled" by the Taylor Dynasty, but it -seems- to be a symbiotic relationship.
Gilrandir 14th Apr 2021, 6:59 PM edit delete reply
I avoided the term 'ruling class' in favor of 'ruling powers' advisedly. In any hierarchical organization there are decision-makers. The decision makers for New Troy and Nova Roma appear to be having a meeting. 'Class' seems to denote more about how you got to be a decision maker, rather than the bare fact of whether you are or are not one.

The AIS meeting earlier was a different constituency for a different purpose. They were met to discuss CentComm/Tokyo Rose/Aeneas issues, not New Troy/Nova Roma issues. It just seems like, for discussions of the second type, if CentComm has a seat at the table, so should Aeneas. Or else this could just be a preliminary discussion and introduction type of meeting from which no substantive agreements are expected. But those are just my opinions, of course.
Deanatay 15th Apr 2021, 11:45 AM edit delete reply
This relates to my concerns about integrating Aeneas back into New Rome's power structure. They've functioned for two generations without him, so he's not considered when their "ruling parties" gather. I'm wondering if he'll 'crash' the meeting? There's still a lot of work to be done in figuring out his place.
MirrorField 14th Apr 2021, 2:51 AM edit delete reply
Cent... The Future is not set and no certainties exist. Even low-probability events have stubborn ways of popping up in most inconvenient of fashions. And as IRA once noted to Margaret Thatcher after Brighton Bombing: "Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always."

Also, as mentioned, Aeneas is someone who very much needs to participate these negotiations.
chrystal_dark 14th Apr 2021, 5:17 AM edit delete reply

Worth a mention here that the IRA ceased to function as a paramilitary force in 1999 while Maggie died in 2013 of old age...?
MirrorField 14th Apr 2021, 8:14 AM edit delete reply
IRA disbanded only after the Good Friday Agreement and God willing peace will prevail despite Brexit shenanigans by various parties. No side won.

But the point remains: There is no absolute security and anyone claiming thus has taken first step towards overlooking something in overconfidence. Cent's security measures are tight and comprehensive, that's not in question, but they are not absolute. Nothing is.
robnot 14th Apr 2021, 1:29 PM edit delete reply
? Dragon Silk.??
megados 14th Apr 2021, 5:01 AM edit delete reply

As I recall, Samanta was also to meet with Noctis before returning to New Rome. Is is possible that she will attend this conference?

Echoing some of the sentiments by others, Aeneas should either be in direct attendance by Holo, or at least be observing the meeting. It may also be possible, that he might be the representative of Regent Maxus that is being described. Two birds, one stone.
Sheela 14th Apr 2021, 9:00 AM edit delete reply

It's fairly likely that Feelie and Samantha might join the discussion, since it is about the irregularities in the wastes.
chrystal_dark 14th Apr 2021, 5:17 AM edit delete reply

Oooh look, a football! She shoots, she scores!
Just_IDD 23rd Apr 2021, 5:10 PM edit delete reply
Ohh look a Panda! It eats shoots and leaves.
megados 23rd Apr 2021, 6:14 PM edit delete reply

Why does it leave after eating shoots?
Phoebe 14th Apr 2021, 5:28 AM edit delete reply
I think the question is mostly "what is Aeneas' position in New Rome" rather than "How does New Troy like him?". The only person who has ever even spoken with Aeneas is Acantha, and unless that has changed, I don't think New Rome would actually want him to be making decisions for them.

Think of it as having your long-lost father (that you don't think much about) suddenly coming in the family meeting to make decisions for you...
Some Ed 14th Apr 2021, 7:26 AM edit delete reply
I thought Maxus was around for a very brief interaction with Aeneas... but as that was prior to the repair, would not have made Maxus be more interested in having the New Rome AIS present for this.
Tooniator 14th Apr 2021, 7:42 AM edit delete reply
Wondering why an all-powerful AI is wearing a belt.
megados 14th Apr 2021, 8:43 AM edit delete reply

Even an all-powerful AI has to be Fashionable.
Sheela 14th Apr 2021, 9:02 AM edit delete reply

Probably part of the original sex-bot body.
robnot 14th Apr 2021, 1:33 PM edit delete reply
that belt is a force field,,. after Tee-Dee blew the dolls head apart..
now i have to look it up..
augha augha , dive dive ,, archive dive
robnot 14th Apr 2021, 2:07 PM edit delete reply
Comic 686 - Princess Of Swords...
Just_IDD 16th Apr 2021, 5:27 AM edit delete reply
Just like you or me all-powerful AI's still like to keep their pants up.
robnot 17th Apr 2021, 12:00 PM edit delete reply
not like me.. i don't use belts, to keep my pants up.!
i carry a utility belt,. there are at least 4 items on it,. more if im doing some thing out side my daily routine..
sigpig 14th Apr 2021, 8:56 AM edit delete reply

What does a single credit purchase? A loaf of plain bread? A half-dozen eggs? A gourmet five-course dinner for four?
If it's the first, then if I were Acantha, then I would be more than a little insulted. After all, that bounty would be (assuming the Nova Roma population) about one loaf of plain bread per citizen.
If the latter, then we're talking more serious money; as the cost of that dinner is an order of magnitude more expensive than a loaf of plain white bread.
Sheela 14th Apr 2021, 9:03 AM edit delete reply

We learned that when TeeDee shot one of Centcomm's dolls, costs 6500 credits.

So it seems like it has pretty good purchasing power.
megados 14th Apr 2021, 10:59 AM edit delete reply

Halfway decent purchasing power, I suppose, but Centcomm actual has pointed out that in the DC universe, tech is cheap.
robnot 14th Apr 2021, 5:42 PM edit delete reply
6400.. same page panel 4,, since i was just there..
Comic 686 - Princess Of Swords .
10 mill would allow you to buy 1,562.5 dolls before tax...
so,, when i was working, buying a doll would take 6 months,, whereas the 10 mill (without other bills) would take 135 years
Oldarmourer 19th Apr 2021, 3:13 PM edit delete reply
As with all economies, once the gov't gets their fingers into it, everything goes sideways...

http://datachasers.thecomicseries.com/comics/596/

And apparently, in New Troy, prices are somewhat 'flexible' as would be expected in that sort of economy ;)

http://datachasers.thecomicseries.com/comics/1115/
Lurker314 14th Apr 2021, 11:30 AM edit delete reply
I must admit, when I first read this, I REALLY felt uncomfortable about the power imbalance that is coming into the room. After reading the comments, and some sleep, I'm thinking, "This is just Cent being Cent".

Specifically, Centcomm functions basically as a pro-social psychopath. She's a SuperGenius, knows that her plans are the best, and cannot imagine why anyone else would object to just letting her do her thing. There's no "ganging up", there's just "only bringing in the relevant parties."

<sigh>

I'm starting to hope that Centcomm eventually gets a MUCH stronger push-back than she got from the family over some issue.
Mark_L_A 17th Apr 2021, 11:42 AM edit delete reply

I don't think Cent is a "Psychopath" if you consider it she is more of a "Sociopath".

A Psychopath enjoys what they are doing. A Sociopath, just doesn't care. Where a Psychopath enjoys killing and torturing and Sociopath doesn't feel constrained one way or the other from either.

I'm paraphrasing from a book I read many years ago, so I hope I've got it right but, "A Psychopath likes, hurting people and taking lives, they get a rush from the power they have over others. A Sociopath just doesn't care as long as they get what they want. They get no pleasure and feel no restraint on their actions. Only their goals.

Either would use whatever means they feel like, however the Psychopath, enjoys it, and may go far beyond what is necessary to achieve their goals. Whereas the Sociopath, will do only what is necessary.
Oldarmourer 20th Apr 2021, 5:57 PM edit delete reply
She's a loving, caring gardener...and if you believe that you'll buy this fine building lot in 'Murderturd Valley'


http://datachasers.thecomicseries.com/comics/1490/
Lurker314 20th Apr 2021, 10:18 PM edit delete reply
I will pass. However, would YOU be interested in [url="https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-48517926"] this[/url] lightly used bridge?
KarToon12 14th Apr 2021, 4:28 PM edit delete reply

First concern: there's gonna' be a veggie tray with ranch dip, right?
Ryu Santos 14th Apr 2021, 9:32 PM edit delete reply

Nope, it's going to be a good old fashioned bowl of nachos with your choice of mild, medium, hot, and OMG! kill me now salsas.
Oldarmourer 15th Apr 2021, 5:37 PM edit delete reply
Stale donuts and lukewarm coffee, although for visiting Royalty they might spring for just day old donuts
stormbringer77 15th Apr 2021, 8:40 PM edit delete reply

Get the Carolina Reaper. Unless you are a professional at eating different foods, you might be able to make it past 2 spoons,3 if you've tried planning ahead not knowing how powerful it is.
Ryu Santos 15th Apr 2021, 11:47 PM edit delete reply

Reapers are yummy. So are Ghosts, habaneros, and tabascos.
Oldarmourer 16th Apr 2021, 6:44 PM edit delete reply
Not a big fan of hot peppers, they give me horrible gas and I'd far rather have taste than just burn.
I don't care for chili much at all but I do like a good curry or some Thai or Indonesian or other Asian 'hot' dishes; even if they all have hot peppers in them, it's the other spices and ingredients that make the difference, except coconut, fuck coconut in the heart ;)
Sheela 15th Apr 2021, 8:43 PM edit delete reply

I just realized that I have been commenting on this comic since the 10th of April 2013 ... that's 8 years of hiding in the comments ! 😀
Ryu Santos 15th Apr 2021, 11:53 PM edit delete reply

Congratulations. I think I was just leaning about Data Chasers that year
megados 16th Apr 2021, 5:07 AM edit delete reply

Congrats! 😀 I started reading in 2015 but never commented till like 2017.
Oldarmourer 16th Apr 2021, 2:02 PM edit delete reply
Started reading DC pretty much started then lost the link for quite awhile before finding it again.
Finally started commenting a few years ago...sorry about that ;)
Funny thing is I read Staff and Sword not realizing it was by the same artists and still think it's worth reviving.
robnot 17th Apr 2021, 3:22 PM edit delete reply
at times i swear you are ghosting me...
found out about comic on May/June 2015, at the con.. started reading on 09/June/2015,, first official comment on 13/Nov/2016,, (had a few guest comments.)..
Sheela 18th Apr 2021, 12:16 AM edit delete reply

And yet, you still don't have an avatar! 😆
robnot 18th Apr 2021, 9:59 AM edit delete reply
@Sheela: i do haz a avatar.. it's Robbie the robot.!
BUT. i can't sign into comic fury, (long story) so i can't use it here... :(
megados 18th Apr 2021, 9:26 AM edit delete reply

Actually, I got here from reading Luna Star. That's how I found Datachasers and also Staff and Sword. :D
Sheela 18th Apr 2021, 5:12 PM edit delete reply

For me, I got lured in here by Catsservant .. the sneaky bastard.
There I was, reading the comments on one of View's comics, and boom, Catsservant linked Datachasers, and I had to do 819 pages of archive binging.
Actually, it was before the remake of the early pages, so it was probably more like a thousand pages back then.
knuut 18th Apr 2021, 8:41 PM edit delete reply
@ Megados: Much the same for me.
Just_IDD 21st Apr 2021, 4:50 AM edit delete reply
I remember reading Luna Star first, but I don't know if DC was in extant at that time. I know I didn't post for a long time.

I'm happy that I can continue to post without an account. I'm tired of giving credentials to multiple sites that don't use oauth and then later get breached because they decided to roll their own security without a concept of how bad an idea that is.
Oldarmourer 21st Apr 2021, 6:00 AM edit delete reply
For the longest time I thought you had to open an account to comment here then I used the 'guest' for a while until I figured out you could change the name, and finally did make a CF account with a disposable e-mail address. I don't mind that so much, I can make a new hotmail account in a minute or so, it's the ones that want additional information that I refuse to use.
Thor 21st Apr 2021, 2:40 PM edit delete reply
So...

Is the change in CC's font in the last panel a boo-boo, or some kind of psychological mirroring trick?
Gilrandir 21st Apr 2021, 10:19 PM edit delete reply
Well spotted, @Thor.
megados 22nd Apr 2021, 5:38 AM edit delete reply

It makes me think that it's on loudspeaker throughout New Troy. XD
megados 21st Apr 2021, 2:45 PM edit delete reply

Nice seeing you, though, @Centcomm! Glad you're still with us. Don't worry about the page, I'm more concerned about the pain. (Besides, 420 XD)
mjkj 22nd Apr 2021, 12:06 AM edit delete reply

So true, Cent, your health is more important than an update...
Oldarmourer 22nd Apr 2021, 5:42 AM edit delete reply
Can't remember anyone complaining when life conspires to hold a page up, and I don't expect to.
You're all kind enough to share your talents with us for free, we should be gracious in acceptance.

On the other hand, if it's your hand again please do something about it, you're like a @#$%^!! voodoo doll !!
Mine starting giving me grief the other day for no apparent reason so I'm blaming yours ;)
Get rested and well, we'll wait.
Oldarmourer 22nd Apr 2021, 5:15 PM edit delete reply
While our artist recovers, here's something to keep you busy for a little bit. See ? I'm helping :)


http://glasswings.thecomicseries.com/comics/1#content-start
Sheela 24th Apr 2021, 12:43 PM edit delete reply

Archive binged ! 😀
Oldarmourer 25th Apr 2021, 3:54 PM edit delete reply
Try this one then, it's a little different with three characters all getting ten pages each before switching to the next and getting their stories a little closer to converging each time.

http://serpent-sinner-saint.com/
nekaz 10th May 2022, 10:43 PM edit delete reply

*51 years later* AHHHHHHHH FUCK YOU CENTCOMM TIME TO DIE BITCH
Centcomm 11th May 2022, 12:23 AM edit delete reply

heheh
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