Comic 1748 - Family Ties

18th May 2022, 12:00 AM
Family Ties
Average Rating: 5 (15 votes)
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Sleel 18th May 2022, 12:08 AM edit delete reply

Yes, she is very annoying. I want to Gibbs her with rings on that have very large stones. Worn backwards so the stones are palmward. Or as I put it when I'm being less delicate: I want to bitchslap her with rings on.
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 4:25 AM edit delete reply

Ebonbolt 23rd May 2022, 12:20 PM edit delete reply

To be fair, she may just be emotionally stunted or completely lacking in emotional maturity & interpersonal socialization...

I mean, it doesn't really excuse this but, y'know, I try to be understanding & all that.
Gilrandir 23rd May 2022, 10:33 PM edit delete reply
Maybe Andrea and Britta are actually lovers and just have an ‘Odd Couple’ vibe going on? One is quiet and laconic, while the other is ebullient and voluble. Each brings pieces to the relationship the other is lacking, and while their differences bring tension to the relationship, their complementary features inevitably draw them together again. ^_^
Centcomm 24th May 2022, 7:25 AM edit delete reply

There's a knock at your door.. Andrea is standing there with a taser rod. "Let us discuss.. this."
megados 24th May 2022, 2:29 PM edit delete reply

dun -
. . . . .Dun -
. . . . . . . . . .DUN~!
Ryu Santos 18th May 2022, 12:23 AM edit delete reply
I would really like to push this paper pusher, or is it curser crawler, into an organics recycler. Just to see how she likes it.
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 4:25 AM edit delete reply

i dont think she would...
Ictuan 18th May 2022, 4:14 AM edit delete reply
Well, if you were going for annoying and ignorant, you hit it it out of the park. You have also done a very good job of defining family. It is so very true.
Centcomm 18th May 2022, 11:38 AM edit delete reply

equal thanks to Rose and Heagan
demarquis 20th May 2022, 8:12 AM edit delete reply
Am I the only one on her side?

"How do you know all this?"

"I have an attention span longer--"

"No, I mean about them being her family."

"Because, they told me?"

"Oh, I see. And no one ever lies in a murder investigation, eh?"


"And when the *real* family shows up and demands to see their loved one?"


"And that's why we follow procedure!"
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 2:22 PM edit delete reply

i like this :D
Ictuan 20th May 2022, 5:21 PM edit delete reply
Okay Demarquis, that was pretty good. But you know, the annoying bureaucrat can never right. It is a rule of story telling, they must be the foil.
Rigor 21st May 2022, 7:00 AM edit delete reply

Nice, but I think it would go more like:

"How do you know they are her family?"

Because an official representative of the Epiphyte government, using valid ID codes, so stated."

"And people don't lie in a murder investigation?"

Human people yes, and human government definitely, but there is no record of an Epiphyte lying ever, and the reverence they hold for Galina, the victim's progenitor, is well documented history that establishes the familial relationship as defined in Epiphyte culture."


"Speaking of culture, I must remind you that NT has laws against racist behavior toward androids and you're in violation. Your racist statements about our Epiphyte guests are an aggravating factor. I suggest you spend your time preparing those forms instead of complaining about it. "
megados 21st May 2022, 8:52 AM edit delete reply

You bring up a good point here: the Epiphytes are telepathic, so they can't really lie to one another, so it probably wouldn't even occur to them to do it with others.
Lurker314 24th May 2022, 7:27 PM edit delete reply
We have a Swiftian horse here!
Gilrandir 25th May 2022, 8:22 AM edit delete reply
Assuming that telepathic abilities preclude the ability to (or the necessity for) deceit seems an unjustified assumption to me. Per Colors of the Sun, the Epiphyte telepathic capacity is likened to a radio, under the control of the individual in question. Last I checked, it was perfectly possible to lie over the radio — or other forms of broadcast media.
megados 25th May 2022, 8:52 AM edit delete reply

As they describe it, though, it was said, (paraphrasing), it is to our ability as a radio is to sound, and I could be misinterpreting, but she made it out as a comparison: the ability she was gifted was a channel into their telepathy. It doesn't really tell me if they, or Galina have that kind of control over the content. Think of the radio. When the mic is on, you transmit all the sounds in the room, even stuff you might not want the recipient to hear. I don't know if I'm misinterpreting, or if the comparison isn't quite so literal. It's entirely possible that they could filter content so as to be able to lie, but as the trope goes, telepaths often complain of TMI, and have to train themselves to "tune out" the noise of others' thoughts, because it so uncomfortable. Telepathy, to me, seems more like everyone is always transmitting, but the gift of telepathy rests in the receiving.
megados 18th May 2022, 4:58 AM edit delete reply

Re: Alt text, @Tokyo Rose, you did this perfectly.
Andrea's idea isn't half bad. Let Coburn talk 'at' the Epiphytes. I don't know how Andrea is keeping herself from defenestrating this person. Andrea certainly understands family!

Great page as always!
SeanR 18th May 2022, 6:28 AM edit delete reply
It looks like they're on a roof. Can you defenestrate someone without a window?
megados 18th May 2022, 7:13 AM edit delete reply

Well, no, you can't defenestrate someone without a window. I got my cue from the last panel, where it looked like a room. On more careful observing, you are right; it looks like a rooftop. It's what I get for commenting when I'm only half awake.
Centcomm 18th May 2022, 11:38 AM edit delete reply

it is indeed a rooftop :D on top.. of the roof. :P
Centcomm 18th May 2022, 10:27 PM edit delete reply

it is indeed a roof
megados 19th May 2022, 5:04 AM edit delete reply

:D Below, Gilrandir had pointed out that they were going from their starting place out to the roof during their discussion. I should have also noted it from last page where Cici's cartoon clearly showed her booting Coburn off a roof. I clearly didn't have enough coffee! LOL
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 1:07 AM edit delete reply

its all good
Some Ed 18th May 2022, 11:23 AM edit delete reply
Technically speaking, no, it requires a window. That said, it *can* be done while one is outside. You just need to throw the person just right, including both angled the right way and hard enough, that their trajectory enters a space that is considered 'inside' and leaves that space via a window at some point before they come to a rest.

It's tricky to do this with humans, because their splat speed is so close to their bounce speed.
Centcomm 18th May 2022, 10:26 PM edit delete reply

Kiddeagle 18th May 2022, 9:24 PM edit delete reply
Does it count if you push them off the roof into the next building through a window?
Centcomm 18th May 2022, 10:25 PM edit delete reply

Gilrandir 18th May 2022, 11:14 PM edit delete reply
I think that would be ‘refenestrating’ them, not ‘defenestrating’ them. ^_^
megados 19th May 2022, 4:53 AM edit delete reply

Some Ed 19th May 2022, 7:55 AM edit delete reply
No, no, 'refenestrating' them only applies if they've been either fenestrated or defenestrated at least once already. If this is their first time, it's a simple fenestration.
Kiddeagle 19th May 2022, 1:09 PM edit delete reply
I think that would count an infenestrating since they are coming into the building and not going out
robnot 18th May 2022, 5:49 AM edit delete reply
oh Goddess...
artist: annoying. writer: got it. me: nailed it.!
next scene the Epiphyte talks to 'coburn' only in full context.! IE: full name with ALL titles and slowly.. (or would that be called droning on.?) ,, but only to coburn.. while part of them is 'droning' to coburn the other "talks" to Andrea ..
Gilrandir 18th May 2022, 12:09 PM edit delete reply
First, my compliments to the artistic team, en masse. Fun pages, lovely art and thought-provoking conversation.

I will say that the scene is a trifle dark for me, so I feel like I may be missing some of the fine details. I believe I understand the thematic intent, so that is all good, but I hate to think I am not appreciating things you spent time and attention putting into the scene.

I do have a question, though: Why is Administrator Coburn still there? She (ostensibly) came down to the morgue to inform Detective Valorian about the paperwork that was needed, but not getting done. Detective Valorian nodded sympathetically in all the right places, while gratefully noting that none of this was her problem. Coburn then followed Valorian up to the roof, no doubt haranguing her all along the way about the importance of her work and the necessity of her work and the shameful way that others were neglecting her work ... all without actually doing any of the work she is talking about that needs so urgently to get done.

She might have been hoping for a brush with celebrity, except her apparent ignorance and prejudice would seem to rule that out. So, what has brought her up to that rooftop to spend her so-valuable time in Detective Valorian's company? Does she have a crush on her? Is she stalking her? Does Andrea owe her money? Inquiring minds want to know! ^_^
Ictuan 18th May 2022, 5:07 PM edit delete reply
I imagined she tagged along to make sure all the proper forms were filled out in triplicate.
Centcomm 18th May 2022, 10:26 PM edit delete reply

something like that and there had to be a 'official' read as paper pusher with Andrea.
Haegan2005 18th May 2022, 6:24 PM edit delete reply

Lot's of questions there. So, spoilers?(not really)

In a way I think the Administrator just wants to be there for something different. She spends all day every day doing the exact same thing, and this is thrillingly different. Oh, and safe. No one getting set on fire or defenestrated, for instance!

Though we did note that Andrea was thinking about throwing someone off a roof top earlier? I guess ignorance is bliss for Coburn? Honestly, knowing our creative duo, I suspect that things will get a bit awkward for our good administrator. Of course, the same could be true of Andrea. After all, a perfect discussion over a body is a hard thing to be had, right?
Nomi 19th May 2022, 7:30 AM edit delete reply
Really dark for me too. Playing w screen settings but can make out few details
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 1:07 AM edit delete reply

Sorry about that still getting the hang od the lighting. turns out a bit too dark it is suppose to be.. O dark thirty.
Rocket Fueled 20th May 2022, 2:25 PM edit delete reply

I thought the second panel nailed oh-dark-thirty, although it didn't occur to me that that's what it was until you said...
Old Fart 18th May 2022, 6:58 PM edit delete reply
One might suggest she take all those forms ans fold them into very sharp origami pointed spheres. Then insert those same spheres where the sun doesn't shine to better remove hemorrhoids more efficiently than Prep H.
Centcomm 18th May 2022, 10:25 PM edit delete reply

Gilrandir 18th May 2022, 11:18 PM edit delete reply
A brand new way to insult people: “You are in the top two percent of the suitability index for a mid-level bureaucratic job.” ^_^
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 1:08 AM edit delete reply

that would seem to be the case.
demarquis 20th May 2022, 8:17 AM edit delete reply
Not to grouse, but I held a mid-level bureaucratic job for most of my career.
Gilrandir 20th May 2022, 8:27 AM edit delete reply
Fair enough. And I will observe that I posted earlier that I thought that, in general, bureaucrats get an undeserved ‘bad rap’. But I do think that the stereotypical qualities that most people would associate with a hypothetical ‘suitability index’ for those kinds of jobs are not often highly valued.
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 2:25 PM edit delete reply

i have nothing but respect for everyone.. everyone knows good and bad.. heck there are good and bad officers too. think of what would have happened if Andrea had not gotten the case.
Rigor 21st May 2022, 7:04 AM edit delete reply

Funny! But if she's complaining about preparing forms she is low level, and likely to stay there because of her preference for complaining when she has work to do, and her racist atitude.
Gilrandir 21st May 2022, 6:01 PM edit delete reply
We have ample historical evidence from many cultures and eras to show that a racist attitude does not necessarily bar one from advancing to elevated levels within a bureaucracy. (See me nimbly dodging the prohibition against specific real world political commentary. ^_^ )
Just_IDD 19th May 2022, 6:11 AM edit delete reply
This has to do with the website and not the comic, for some reason, possibly igconito, all of the images on the page which load from insecure urls are not displaying properly. I think this is because of secure/insecure mixing. I was puzzled why the navigation buttons, which still function btw, were not displaying when I realized they were loading from your test site which for obvious reasons can't share a subdomain certificate with the main site. This also applies to images from 3rd party sites that are being loaded via http links.

If I right click and display the http image links, they are being redirected to me as https by your server and then display properly.

Other than Galatea and Galnia most of the entries on cast page are not loading either. I didn't check other pages for mixed url content, eg insecure links loading from secure content sites.

I'm also getting this weird effect from other Webcomics but I wasn't able to run it down until saw yours.
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 1:07 AM edit delete reply

I think TWC just hates me... and the others that were in the top 10 before they went pay to win.
megados 20th May 2022, 6:14 AM edit delete reply

I don't think they hate you; they just only like ones who give them money.
Rashala 19th May 2022, 10:44 PM edit delete reply

Yeah starting to agree with the cops dream of punting her off the roof.
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 12:09 AM edit delete reply

just wait.
Demarquis 20th May 2022, 8:18 AM edit delete reply
Apropos of nothing, but I like the floral print shirt!
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 10:50 PM edit delete reply

i thought it made a nice counter point
Rocket Fueled 20th May 2022, 8:26 AM edit delete reply

I enjoyed the skyline view in the third panel. However, I still feel like I'm holding my breath waiting for the shtako to hit the fan...
Centcomm 20th May 2022, 2:22 PM edit delete reply

its coming
Silver 23rd May 2022, 11:22 AM edit delete reply
I'm surprised Epiphytes being telepathic isn't common knowledge, provided as part a basic education. Surely such a fundamental aspect of the only extraterrestrial race humanity has contact with would be kinda important general knowledge?
Ictuan 24th May 2022, 3:16 PM edit delete reply
I'm sure Epiphytes being telepathic is common knowledge for anyone not spending all their waking hours memorizing form numbers so that they can be in the top two percent of the suitability index for being a paper pusher.
Centcomm 24th May 2022, 11:08 PM edit delete reply

pretty much.,
mjkj 27th May 2022, 5:39 PM edit delete reply

*lol* go, tell her, Andrea!!!
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